His off the ball movement is non existent.
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Again, you're only serving the prove my point.
Never did I say otherwise that Icardi is their main man, the whole system revolves around him, opposing teams set up to stop him yet they are rarely successful in doing so. Sure, you can say all you want about Inter catering to Icardi, but that only means that their opponents come into every game with stopping him in their minds. Again, I cannot emphasize how bigger his burden in Inter is compared to Martial's this year. Mind you, this is the Serie A, the quality might not be the same but the mentality is still to put a premium on defense.
The man is surrounded with drama but he delivers almost on a daily basis, the same cannot be said about Tony this year. In fact, Icardi might even be in no man's land considering his 'sin' is to the eyes of many footballers, greater than Martial's. That doesn't stop him from balling out though.
Like I said before, them chopping and screwing their system with every managerial change should've slowed down Icardi, yet he continues to bang them in. Add in their problematic ownership situation, Icardi is literally in one of the worst ever situations you can place a young (easy to forget his age) talent in, but he thrives nonetheless.
Mate how is me basically saying that Icardi is the only one that is certain to start and that the whole game is based around him serves your point?
Opposition squads only know that Icardi will always start and can only guess who will accompany him up front so they focus heavily on him and that's all.
Because everyone in Italy knows who to prepare against, day in and day out, when they're facing Inter. Again, his burden doesn't even compare with that of Martial's. That's what I've been saying since my very first post.
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He'll get back to his best but he's frustrating as hell at the moment considering we know what the dude is capable of producing.
He's the type of player who prefers the ball to feet so he can beat the man himself rather than run in behind with clever movement. To get the better of full-backs such as Walker, you need to be able to do that because they can switch of defensively but to beat them one on one is very difficult especially on the outside.
I'm sure he will regain form again soon, however I wouldn't be against giving Memphis a run in the meantime.
I'm sure he will regain form again soon, however I wouldn't be against giving Memphis a run in the meantime.
Behave, memphis on the wing? We'd be aswell putting fellaini on for martial unless we're playing against a league 2 side.
Was anonymous for large parts but put in a shift and didn't do much wrong.
He needs to get into those goal scoring positions again,needs to be given a chance to play more centrally. Without much support from fullbacks, he has to do everything by himself, can' cut in or drift inside too much.
Also unlike last season, our play isn't heavily reliant on him, more balls are played to Ibra, also the main side of attack has shifted to the right owing to excellent wing play from Valencia.Ergo, he is seeing less of the ball.
He needs to get into those goal scoring positions again,needs to be given a chance to play more centrally. Without much support from fullbacks, he has to do everything by himself, can' cut in or drift inside too much.
Also unlike last season, our play isn't heavily reliant on him, more balls are played to Ibra, also the main side of attack has shifted to the right owing to excellent wing play from Valencia.Ergo, he is seeing less of the ball.
It's just what i said OMG, Icardi is the only constant they know will appear against any team. Also he's playing in his position and even if he has few shiit performances he won't be dropped for the likes of Palacio.
During the summer , left side Shaw,Pogba and Martial 
...then reality hit.
During the season right hand side Valencia,Herrera and Mkhitaryan
...then reality hit.During the season right hand side Valencia,Herrera and Mkhitaryan
He's young, so not a problem that he's not able to constantly perform. LVG said it last year multiple times that he was actually impressed that Martial was able to perform so well, and was expecting him to drop in form anytime. Well that time is now. Just not sure if you have to play him back into form, or wait until he shows his form in training, or Euro games.
He's in very poor form at the moment. Hope that keeping him on the pitch is the best thing for the young lad, and he's not just being played because we lack decent alternatives.
IMO he's really been suffering from the lack of support from the left back. I find because he drops deep to collect the ball he usually then ends up being 2 on 1, he can't get passed 2 players.
Before he used to dovetail with Blind and then they would slip him down the line or help him get isolated 1v1, but the way Darmian has been sitting back it's not giving him any help.
Yes he still needs to adjust his game to be more direct, stop dropping so deep and getting his defender 1v1, but all wingers need help from their fullback.
Before he used to dovetail with Blind and then they would slip him down the line or help him get isolated 1v1, but the way Darmian has been sitting back it's not giving him any help.
Yes he still needs to adjust his game to be more direct, stop dropping so deep and getting his defender 1v1, but all wingers need help from their fullback.
Hope he plays next game and after Rashford's disastrous cameo I reckon he will keep his place.
Agree he needs more help from his left back and could benefit from a Shaw or Blind reemergence as Darmian is a worse partner than Ike Turner.
Agree he needs more help from his left back and could benefit from a Shaw or Blind reemergence as Darmian is a worse partner than Ike Turner.
Every few days I need to remind myself of what he did last season. That was a genuinely ridiculous impact he had. He was so consistent and productive given his age and the circumstances.
It's extremely disappointing to see the difference this season. At this point I don't mind him having a stinker of a season as long as next year he proves that this isn't an indication of something more permanent. Based on what he showed last season the guy is a rare talent.
It's extremely disappointing to see the difference this season. At this point I don't mind him having a stinker of a season as long as next year he proves that this isn't an indication of something more permanent. Based on what he showed last season the guy is a rare talent.
His off the ball runs have improved IMO. He made threatening runs against Tottenham and Mkhi tried to thread the ball through to him, it just did'nt come off.
Can't stand Gary Neville, was criticising Martial around a month ago, never said a bad word about Rooney when he was playing poorly
I don't think we can afford trying to play him into form. It looks like he hasn't traveled for Palace. I reckon it will be Lingard or Rooney instead.
Don't agree with it but not surprised. He knows he has to take his chances but he is not playing well enough.
Might sound ridiculous, but I think Zlatan joining and thus losing the number 9 shirt had a huge impact on his ego. He seems to have lost his 'development moment' he gained in his unbelievable debut season. Disappointed but not in the least worried about him.
This pretty much mirrors my thoughts too, for whatever reason Darmian is not pushing up to support him and he's being crowded out more often than not.
If he had a full back overlapping it would create more space for him and he's be able to play off the full back or come inside without being crowded out too much.
I don't think that it's something that Darmian is doing off him own back though, he must be getting told to hold back. If he was being told to get forward and support and wasn't doing it then he would be dropped.
No, I don't think it's ridiculous. I think it would certainly have an impact on someone's mentality, especially when that person is only 21 years old.
Martial isn't a winger & he isn't even an inside forward. He was used as a winger at Monaco to break in to the first team. LVG moved him there because he couldn't drop Rashford & Lingard.
The following season he would have paired up with Rashford up top with Lingard in behind.
Jose should stop using players in different positions. Let Rashford & Martial compete for the ST spot if he isn't keen on adapting the formation to include these players.
It would Atleast have some sort of benefit to their development.
We should use mkhitareayn & Mata as wide midfielders in this current formation.
The following season he would have paired up with Rashford up top with Lingard in behind.
Jose should stop using players in different positions. Let Rashford & Martial compete for the ST spot if he isn't keen on adapting the formation to include these players.
It would Atleast have some sort of benefit to their development.
We should use mkhitareayn & Mata as wide midfielders in this current formation.
So does anyone know why Martial isn't in the squad for the Palace game or is that just a rumour? Is he injured or just dropped?
Injured.
Any idea what it is? how long?
imo martial is not good enough to be considered as a striker. his finishing isnt good enough and his skillset would be wasted as a striker.
he could/should be our robben.
Okay I disagree because he can't cross, he isn't skilful enough to dupe a defender with a double trick - he is more likely to make sharp turns etc that is suited to the middle of the pitch. I think he is a fantastic finisher for his age. I can barely name any better.
He's having the typical second season dip that almost all young players have after their first breakthrough season.
I still have faith he'll be a sensational footballer.
I still have faith he'll be a sensational footballer.
Don't even think he's been bad the last couple of games
Think problems off the field have taken their toll on him. I am a lot more worried about him than some others as he is not Mourinho's player and Mourinho will not remain patient forever.
Must be injured surely with the lack of width in the squad tonight
Any news on why he wasn't in the squad for CP match?
Figured he was dropped. Needs a consistent run of games IMO. Keeps trying but being dropped after one or two games isn't going to help at all.
Can't decide whether he's saying the right things or whether he's throwing his toys out of the pram (again?).
Starting to wonder about his mentality, seems to be a bit whiney and caught up in his own hype, really don't think the super quick rise to fame from last season did him well.
Like someone said in the unpopular opinions thread, won't be surprised to see him not being here in two years time.
Hope I am wrong and he turns it around though, we all know what he is capable of, and actually our 4-3-3 with wingers more as inside forwards should suit him.
Like someone said in the unpopular opinions thread, won't be surprised to see him not being here in two years time.
Hope I am wrong and he turns it around though, we all know what he is capable of, and actually our 4-3-3 with wingers more as inside forwards should suit him.
I doubted José's man management when it came to Mkhitaryan. I've since been proven wrong I think.
Hopefully he's communicating behind the scenes with martial and outlining exactly what he needs from him. If so, Martial needs to get his head down for a bit and bide his time.
We've all seen how good he can be. He just needs to be calm and patient and we'll see the best of him again shortly.
Nothing to see here.
Hopefully he's communicating behind the scenes with martial and outlining exactly what he needs from him. If so, Martial needs to get his head down for a bit and bide his time.
We've all seen how good he can be. He just needs to be calm and patient and we'll see the best of him again shortly.
Nothing to see here.
Sounds a bit like a moan to me, which won't go down well with Jose.
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