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I think he has been ok today. Nothing too groundbreaking but we should Keep playing him and Mkhi as wingers.
Not at the races today, offensively.
He struggles against high-pressing pacey full backs who deny him space. Especially since he doesn't seem to like to run in behind for some reason. He needs to be more inventive with his movement.
Out of interest, do many players not struggle against those type of fullbacks?!
Well yeah But some players are still able to make things happen. Martial seems completely toothless.
I think our left side depends a lot on Luke Shaw. If he gets bombing up and down like prime Evra, it creates that overlap that allows Martial to cut in and give the defenders more to worry about. Right now they know Martial will cut in, so show him outside and he doesnt go to the byline. Disadvantage of him having no left foot.
But Shaw is nothing like Evra in terms of attacking skills, and I'm not sure he has that engine either.
Right now., nope. But beginning of last season, thats what he did.
Right now., nope. But beginning of last season, thats what he did.
For what, 8 games.
Shaw has been poor the majority of his United career.
I agree with whoever said Martial needs a partner down the left.
I still feel like his dribbling isn't at the level that it was last season. His touch is off and too often, he wants to cut inside when he should stay wide.
I've said it since the start of the season. His obsession with playing like a striker on the wings is costing him chances and ruining his season. To be completely frank I'm somewhat shocked he hasn't realized what effect it's having. He keeps making the same mistakes every week because he's always so desperate to cut inside and shoot, and confidence is one thing but everytime he tries it it's like it's an innocent first try, instead of it being the 7th failed attempt at it all game, every game, twice a week.
I've watched every minute of United this season and I genuinely remember him going outside a full-back only once, against West Ham when Obiang fouled him. That was the one thing that made him so dangerous and effective last season.
Granted, today he was the weekly victim of Ibrahimovic's 'you don't exist' selfishness (Mkhitaryan was on the receiving end last week) but he still needs to be making better decisions himself in the final third.
He'll have all the time in the world to turn into Cristiano Ronaldo if that's what he really wants, but right now he needs to sustainably nail down the basics of being Anthony Martial first.
WestHam game in League CupI've posted the exact same thing on this thread a couple of times. There's two main issues with his game:
1) Poor off-the-ball movement. He doesn't take advantage of his pace to make those clever runs on the inside left channel. Always wants the ball to feet before doing something with it.
2) Cutting inside. Martial of last season mixed things up between cutting inside and using his left. I can't remember a single time he's kept the fullback guessing this season because he seems to always insist on cutting in. `
WestHam game in League Cup
3) His shooting technique is awkward. It's not like Ronaldo overhit his shot in early day. Martial' shooting technique is meh. His best shot is curve it with inside his right foot into far right corner, but that would need him to do 2) well.
4) Passing/ play making. His pass is more lay off than actually inventive pass to create angle for next move. He makes it hard for his teammates at time to have to start to play making from scratch. Even young sloppy U20 Ronaldo is more tidy than him in this regard.
I think our left side depends a lot on Luke Shaw. If he gets bombing up and down like prime Evra, it creates that overlap that allows Martial to cut in and give the defenders more to worry about. Right now they know Martial will cut in, so show him outside and he doesnt go to the byline. Disadvantage of him having no left foot.
I know he's young, but I'm disappointed in how he's seemingly just shut off. Icardi has had twice or more the drama, not to mention he did the unspeakable, yet he keeps on banging them in day in and out in spite of the shit service he gets at Inter. I really hope he gets it sorted, while I also hope Jose and the rest of the United brass handle him patiently.
But in Inter the whole team is set in a way to accomodate Icardi which is not the case in UTD.
True, but alternatively, you can say that he has Zlatan, Rooney, Mkhi, Mata et al to take the opponent's attention away from him at United, while opposing teams in Italy set up to stop Icardi from the first minute to 90.
Not really, no. They focus on Perišić and Candreva/Eder quite a lot as well and also Inter are changing managers way too often with the only constant in attack being Icardi which isn't helping them either.
Sorry, I have to disagree here. He isn't pulling a Maradona but entire defenses are keyed in on Icardi, not unlike what we saw with Martial last year. Perisic and Candreva draw the defense too, but it's pretty clear who's the one making them tick and the opponents have identified this, yet they can't stop Icardi.
Also, the frequent managerial changes should hamper Icardi's scoring form, yet it doesn't. Going back to what I was saying about Tony, I want to empathize with what he's going through, but Icardi's had it worse (he's being booed by his own fans - albeit he kinda brought it upon himself) and continues to be productive.