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Thats some insight
Well it torpedoes your "basically just fitness" claim. I can't be arsed trying to find more detailed references to support the bleeding obvious i.e. that training involves a hell of a lot more than working on fitness.
Remember Van Gaal's paranoia about people seeing our training? He wanted trees round the edges of Carrington. That won't have been in case anyone catches sight of Phil Jones running laps. In Italy/Spain clubs often have open training sesssions. Ditto a lot of national teams. The people who turn up to watch aren't there to watch shuttle-runs.
Looking at his league stats you can see why Jose doesn't fancy him. Reckon he'll be looking to ship him off and bring in players that are ready to put up big numbers from the off.
Oh just go down to Zlatan's thread to see what's true worshipping. It's like a bloody sect over there.
Who cares, the lad looks like a sulky, can't be arsed brat half the time, and for his ability he is too in and out in games for my liking.
Maybe he's playing silly beggars in training, maybe he's asking for more money, maybe he wants out, but better to get this sorted one way or the other now.
If he's up to it then he'll man up, and hopefully cheer up, then let his ability do the talking, this will get him the more money contract he could want, or the big money move he maybe ultimately wants to happen.
Maybe he's playing silly beggars in training, maybe he's asking for more money, maybe he wants out, but better to get this sorted one way or the other now.
If he's up to it then he'll man up, and hopefully cheer up, then let his ability do the talking, this will get him the more money contract he could want, or the big money move he maybe ultimately wants to happen.
I'd start him every match ahead of dross like Rooney and Lingard without thinking twice.
Don't tell me it's full of maniacs saying that a free signing who is currently the second highest scorer in the league has been a good addition to our squad? Surely not?!?
I'm starting to think you're on the wrong side of every debate. Have you been in the Trump thread saying he's doing a great job?
You do see the problem here right? You think
But look at his stats last season, we already know he can perform in the league.
Has Mourinho ever started Rooney ahead of Martial though?
You said something dear?
In position or just generally? Twice in position, six times generally.
10 Sep: 2:1 home loss vs Man City (Lingard, Rooney and Mkhitaryan behind Zlatan.. Martial came off bench)
14 Nov: 4:0 home win vs Feyenoord (Mata, Rooney and Mkhitaryan behind Zlatan.. Martial left out of squad)
08 Dec: 2:0 away win vs Zorya (Mkhitaryan, Rooney and Mata behind Zlatan.. Martial left on bench)
14 Dec: 2:1 away win vs Palace (Rooney (played LW) and Mata either side of Zlatan.. Martial left out of squad)
17 Dec: 2:0 away win vs West Brom (Rooney (played LW) and Lingard either side of Zlatan.. Martial left on bench)
10 Jan: 2:0 home win vs Hull (Mkhitaryan, Rooney and Mata behind Rashford.. Martial came off bench)
Edit: Forgot City game. There was also Northampton but Martial was injured so not counting that.
So six times in total. 3 times in the league? More than I thought but very rarely all the same.
That's his usual facial expression, he always has the same expression as witnessed last season when he was our best player.
Hard to get his ability out when he's being dropped after every good performance.
José criticizes him in public. He plays the last game and has an excellent second half, setting up two goals. Then he is dropped again. Surely he should have been kept in the team? His confidence would have been high. It was stupid to drop him. And we get an awful result against an awful team.
Anyway, for all that Martial allegedly turned a corner against Boro he was absolutely pants for the vast majority of the opening half of the season, despite numerous opportunities to impress. So it would be strange if he hadn't found himself in and out of the team.
15 Sep: 1:0 away loss vs Feyenoord (Martial, Pogba and Mata behind Rashford.. Rooney not in squad (saved for league))
19 Nov: 1:1 home draw vs Arsenal (Martial and Mata either side of Rashford.. Rooney came off bench)
11 Dec: 1:0 home win vs Spurs (Martial and Mkhitaryan either side of Zlatan.. Rooney left on bench)
15 Jan: 1:1 home draw vs Liverpool (Martial and Mkhitaryan either side of Zlatan.. Rooney came off bench)
When both were fit.
You don't like him because he is french. You are frenchophobe.
Was he (Mourinho) asked about Martial during his post match conference?
My wife was raised near Nice. Technically I'm a Francophile.
Feck it, though. My love of an argument has painted me into a corner. I think Martial is a brilliant player. He was sensational at times last season. He's inconsistent and frustrating and probably suffering from second season syndrome but there's a hell of a player in there, not far beneath the surface.
Mourinho's handling of him is hard to understand. I assumed the second half against Wigan was good enough for him to start vs Hull. Especially when he was more or less promised exactly that. I'm willing to assume/hope there's method in the manager's madness. Other opinions are available.
You have Nice wife?
I can't help making dad jokes. Never did it pre-kids. Nobody in my family thinks they're funny. Why do we do it?
I can see Mourinho's logic though. He wanted Martial to be magnificent, and Martial having to be shifted from his starting position and having a bad first 30 mins or so wouldn't have been enough for that and would have gone down as a 'decent' performance in Mourinho's eyes once he got the two assists.
I think he always planned to start Rashford against Hull anyway so his competition to start against Hull was Mkhitaryan, which Mourinho pretty much alluded to when he said that Martial only did enough to be on the bench and Mkhitaryan was better against Wigan.
I'm just kidding, I have criticized him in april and a lot of people told me that I was crazy. I rate Martial and I think that he is currently our best option on the left wing but I'm extremely disappointed by his lack of improvement.
If I take myself seriously maybe Mourinho think as I do and he followed Martial last season and think that he didn't do enough, after all Chelsea are supposed to be the club who tried to hijack the transfer.
It's post truth football management.
Lingard and Rashford are alt-better options on the left than Martial, and Darmian is alt-better than Shaw.
Martial is a leftie anyway, no backbone, should shack up with Lily Allen, Gary Lineker and the other luvvies to weep for those being delayed at airports and that.
Lingard and Rashford are alt-better options on the left than Martial, and Darmian is alt-better than Shaw.
Martial is a leftie anyway, no backbone, should shack up with Lily Allen, Gary Lineker and the other luvvies to weep for those being delayed at airports and that.
Hmmm... That does make sense.
And Mourinho's already started calling scorelines FALSE NEWS.
We need Rafa back so he can list some ALTERNATIVE FACTS.
It's easy to mark someone with zero movement, wanting the ball to his feet, not making any runs.
Yep, and Rashford did do well in the previous game we played against Hull. If only we had a clone of Valencia on the left. Even when players do well at LW, they're suffering due to lack of support from the full back.
The Mourinho Martial/Mkhi quotes:
Aye, Shaw's missing mojo is a huge problem. At the beginning of last season most of our attacking impetus came from LB. Crazy how things have changed. Whichever forward gets that position is almost doing it all on his own. Rashford is better than Martial at making runs in behind, so probably a little better at keeping the opposition fullback honest. Because, god knows, they have nothing to worry about from their opposite number.
The situation for him isn't that great right now but come the summer things could look a lot different - would say Zlatan & Rooney out, Griezmann in a similar role to what Martial has on the left cutting in and Martial as main CF - He needs to keep this kind of scenario in mind and fight like hell for his place in the coming weeks. If josé isn't running a two speed judgement system, it can hardly be said that his competitors have put in magnificent performances over the last few games so he should be up for another chance soonish (Personally I would have brought him on instead of Rooney on Wednesday).
On a more optimistic note, Martial, Griezmann & Pogba together is a very tempting combination both for us and probably the French national team and we really need to keep Martial and give him more and more gametime.
On a more optimistic note, Martial, Griezmann & Pogba together is a very tempting combination both for us and probably the French national team and we really need to keep Martial and give him more and more gametime.
Zlatan will be still here next season mate. The chances of Martial cementing the place of main striker by then is zero.
Care to elaborate?
I'm not sure how it torpedoes anything. All Herrera says is that they have very dynamic training. What i wrote was " isn't general training sessions about keeping fitness", i didn't write "basically just fitness". And why does keeping fitness only have to maintain running laps ? And, how much of their day isn't a player following a specific training regime ?
Are Mourinho's sessions the same as Van Gaal's, since you mention him, and are national team training sessions comparable ?
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