Angel Di Maria

Hasn't done anything during the world cup that has made me want us to sign him, in fact he's looked very uneventful.

Mata and the chili winger look much better wingings IMO
 
Apparently the fee for Di Maria is 25 million euros, very reasonable in the modern market, thats what annoys me how the feck do Madrid get these clubs to sell their star players for such reasonable prices and so easily yet whenever we want anyone we get quoted ridiculous figures!? i dont understand it i thought Benfica wanted over 30 million for Di Maria yet theyve seemingly rolled out the red carpet for Madrid and let them sign him oh so easily.
 
I wasn't that impressed with him so far in the World Cup.
 
£20m for an impressive left sided midfielder, and where are we? Thumb up our arse as per :rolleyes:

For a club that bangs on about value and not wanting to pay the crazy £40m+ fees(rightfully so IMO) we don't half miss out on quality talent at reasonable prices eg. Sneijder for £13m, Villa for £34(only £4m more than Berbatov:eek:), Cole for free, Mata for £20m, Di Maria etc etc.
 
Allforone said:
Apparently the fee for Di Maria is 25 million euros, very reasonable in the modern market, thats what annoys me how the feck do Madrid get these clubs to sell their star players for such reasonable prices and so easily yet whenever we want anyone we get quoted ridiculous figures!? i dont understand it i thought Benfica wanted over 30 million for Di Maria yet theyve seemingly rolled out the red carpet for Madrid and let them sign him oh so easily.
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They're just quotes, it's not necessarily the truth
 
But how do they get these players at those prices? why is it teams seem to just roll out the red carpet when Madrid come calling for their best players as if its some great honour and yet the rest of the world get told to feck off and come back with double your money! it really is annoying when Benfica were quoting 40 million figures for Di Maria as recently as January and yet Madrid get him for what has to be said on the cheap and at very little fuss..."hello benfica, ya know that player you were demanding 40 million for we;; we want him, heres 20 million"..."wow its real Madrid, of course kind sir you honour us with your presence and such generosity"...

Just frustrating.
 
WireRed said:
£20m for an impressive left sided midfielder, and where are we? Thumb up our arse as per :rolleyes:

For a club that bangs on about value and not wanting to pay the crazy £40m+ fees(rightfully so IMO) we don't half miss out on quality talent at reasonable prices eg. Sneijder for £13m, Villa for £34(only £4m more than Berbatov:eek:), Cole for free, Mata for £20m, Di Maria etc etc.
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Value.
 
Allforone said:
Mourinhios likely team next season?

..........................Casillas

Maicon.........Ramos.........Pepe..........???

..................Alonso.........???

Ronaldo.................Kaka...............Di Maria

..........................Higuain

Still think theyll be buying a left back and central midfield player.
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I may be very wrong but I suspect he will flop and not be on that line-up for long...
 
Allforone said:
But how do they get these players at those prices? why is it teams seem to just roll out the red carpet when Madrid come calling for their best players as if its some great honour and yet the rest of the world get told to feck off and come back with double your money! it really is annoying when Benfica were quoting 40 million figures for Di Maria as recently as January and yet Madrid get him for what has to be said on the cheap and at very little fuss..."hello benfica, ya know that player you were demanding 40 million for we;; we want him, heres 20 million"..."wow its real Madrid, of course kind sir you honour us with your presence and such generosity"...

Just frustrating.
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This is all wrong. I'll explain later, but I really think it's not that hard. Quoted numbers at the moment are 25 million euros, 15 less than the 40 mentioned.
 
wr8_utd said:
Just saw it on F365. Suddenly announced. What on Earth are madrid going to do with so many attack minded players?! And Ronaldo usually plays off the left for them, so he's now back to the right eh?
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Well Argentina have a midfield 3 and he's playing on the left of it. Madrid used Guti, VDV and Alonso in a midfield 3 so its possible they'll use him there. Havent been particularly impressed with him in that position to be honest though.
 
I m really not impressed with this kid. He hasn't shown up in the World Cup so far. I have not really watched him enough at Benfica to know that he is a special talent. But maybe Mourinho could bring out the best in him because that is Jose's specialty.
 
WireRed said:
£20m for an impressive left sided midfielder, and where are we? Thumb up our arse as per :rolleyes:

For a club that bangs on about value and not wanting to pay the crazy £40m+ fees(rightfully so IMO) we don't half miss out on quality talent at reasonable prices eg. Sneijder for £13m, Villa for £34(only £4m more than Berbatov:eek:), Cole for free, Mata for £20m, Di Maria etc etc.
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Yep, we don't have any impressive wingers do we. And we were sure sitting on our hands with that hernandez guy that everyones now wanking over....
 
Allforone said:
But how do they get these players at those prices? why is it teams seem to just roll out the red carpet when Madrid come calling for their best players as if its some great honour and yet the rest of the world get told to feck off and come back with double your money! it really is annoying when Benfica were quoting 40 million figures for Di Maria as recently as January and yet Madrid get him for what has to be said on the cheap and at very little fuss..."hello benfica, ya know that player you were demanding 40 million for we;; we want him, heres 20 million"..."wow its real Madrid, of course kind sir you honour us with your presence and such generosity"...

Just frustrating.
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Assuming the deal really was 25 million euros (I'm still not sure of it, there may be other players involved, there maybe extra values, etc - until the Portuguese stock market confirms it officially I'm not sure) it doesn't mean Benfica is rolling the carpet to Real.

Quoted values of 40 million were his clause, and Benfica trying to inflate his value the best he could, naturally says players only go out by the clause. Everyone does that around here, doesn't mean it's what really happens in the end. Di María has been obsessed with Real since the first rumors and was pressing hard to leave. Benfica needs to sell because they invested massively last couple of seasons and need some financial return. They just waited how long they could. If Real had given up on him and Manchester United now approached Benfica with 25 million euros you'd probably take him as well, assuming the player would be interested - and he would.

It's just business, if you go ask for Cardozo they'll say he costs 45 but in the end you'll get him for 20. Porto said no one would take Quaresma by less than 40 million, but in the end he went for 25 (of which 6 were in the form of a player that's not worth even 1).

If anything, unlike you say, people try to milk Real because they know they pay whatever it takes to have they players they want. On this particular case, it's complex, Benfica has a few former Real players, there is a chance that Real will loan them someone else, etc... I doubt there are any "preferences" other than these, which are very natural.
 
Arruda said:
Assuming the deal really was 25 million euros (I'm still not sure of it, there may be other players involved, there maybe extra values, etc - until the Portuguese stock market confirms it officially I'm not sure) it doesn't mean Benfica is rolling the carpet to Real.

Quoted values of 40 million were his clause, and Benfica trying to inflate his value the best he could, naturally says players only go out by the clause. Everyone does that around here, doesn't mean it's what really happens in the end. Di María has been obsessed with Real since the first rumors and was pressing hard to leave. Benfica needs to sell because they invested massively last couple of seasons and need some financial return. They just waited how long they could. If Real had given up on him and Manchester United now approached Benfica with 25 million euros you'd probably take him as well, assuming the player would be interested - and he would.

It's just business, if you go ask for Cardozo they'll say he costs 45 but in the end you'll get him for 20. Porto said no one would take Quaresma by less than 40 million, but in the end he went for 25 (of which 6 were in the form of a player that's not worth even 1).

If anything, unlike you say, people try to milk Real because they know they pay whatever it takes to have they players they want. On this particular case, it's complex, Benfica has a few former Real players, there is a chance that Real will loan them someone else, etc... I doubt there are any "preferences" other than these, which are very natural.
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Fair enough, it just seems they always get their man without much effort and haggling you dont often get sagas involving Real madrid (except the obvious one of course :() like with Kaka it was done and dusted quickly without much objection.
 
Allforone said:
Fair enough, it just seems they always get their man without much effort and haggling you dont often get sagas involving Real madrid (except the obvious one of course :() like with Kaka it was done and dusted quickly without much objection.
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This one was rather long as well. You can just roam through the previous pages to see how many times he was given as bought and only today it became official.
 
And with Kaka I think they had an arrangement from the previous summer when they were first interested. He was their main target, he stayed but it was a matter of time. A bit like with Hargreaves - it certainly wasnt a quick one.
 
kouroux said:
Maradona has waited him in that midfield role.It's as if Argentina plays with 10 man
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True he hasnt been really allowed to play as a winger.

He hasnt impressed me at all, at least up until the Mexico match where he played a few really excellent passes but his actual ability on the ball didnt strike me or at least hasnt struck me as that impressive. He needs to get a run at a player rather than take it with back to goal a lot of the time.

He is a massive talent but i think he is certainly not suited to that formation.

He in my opinion should be benched and introduced if they need width and more attacking outlets.

Pastore (again not to bang on about this kid) has looked so damn comfortable in any area when he's on the ball really needs to get a game. Seeing the likes of him and others makes me think if they win it his time they'll win it next time and if they dont win it this time they'll defintely win it next time.

In 4 years you'll have Benega, Pastore, Di Maria, Messi, Higuain, Aguero all 4 years older and still in their prime or just coming into.

They could conciebably be a squad in 8 years given the current age of all these talents. Incredible.
 
He's having a serious attempt at becoming this World Cup's Liam Miller. I've watched all Argentina games so far yet haven't acknowledged his presence once.
 
FranklyVulgar said:
True he hasnt been really allowed to play as a winger.

He hasnt impressed me at all, at least up until the Mexico match where he played a few really excellent passes but his actual ability on the ball didnt strike me or at least hasnt struck me as that impressive. He needs to get a run at a player rather than take it with back to goal a lot of the time.

He is a massive talent but i think he is certainly not suited to that formation.

He in my opinion should be benched and introduced if they need width and more attacking outlets.

Pastore (again not to bang on about this kid) has looked so damn comfortable in any area when he's on the ball really needs to get a game. Seeing the likes of him and others makes me think if they win it his time they'll win it next time and if they dont win it this time they'll defintely win it next time.

In 4 years you'll have Benega, Pastore, Di Maria, Messi, Higuain, Aguero all 4 years older and still in their prime or just coming into.

They could conciebably be a squad in 8 years given the current age of all these talents. Incredible.
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Thing is, they've been the team that'll "win it next time" for about 10 years now. If they dont win it, it'll be easy to say again but there's no reason it'd be a more correct prediction than in previous seasons. They've had as much talent as any other team for a long time.
 
Allforone said:
Fair enough, it just seems they always get their man without much effort and haggling you dont often get sagas involving Real madrid (except the obvious one of course :() like with Kaka it was done and dusted quickly without much objection.
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Perhaps that's why they never win anything anymore, because they don't even think before signing players. Real Madrid are like a rich kid in a sweet shop; they spend a feckload of money, but when all's said and done they just end up feeling sick.
 
Ekeke said:
Thing is, they've been the team that'll "win it next time" for about 10 years now. If they dont win it, it'll be easy to say again but there's no reason it'd be a more correct prediction than in previous seasons. They've had as much talent as any other team for a long time.
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i agree but this talent is even incredible for a nation like Argentina.

Marcos back me up.
 
I don't understand why Mourinho would sanction a move for this lad?? Looks not that great to me and with their money I'd have splashed out on Ozil surely over Di Maria.

Just glad that we were'nt linked with him.
 
Raees said:
I don't understand why Mourinho would sanction a move for this lad?? Looks not that great to me and with their money I'd have splashed out on Ozil surely over Di Maria.

Just glad that we were'nt linked with him.
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I can't see Madrid going after Ozil at all. He'll either end up at a Premiership team or at Bayern.
 
It's a little bit reassuring to see a non-ridiculous fee for a young high profile international.
 
Relax its all in accordance to our master plan, we let Madrid develop the boy into a good footballer then we put a bid in for him - he'll willingly come at any cost to fulfil his "dream" move
 
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