Ange Postecoglou

Fired Mourinho same week as a final, but kept this chancer because they reached the semi-finals when every sane person knew they had a much better chance of going through with a competent manager.

Will never get a job this big ever again and can take his annoying passive-aggressiveness back to the minor leagues
 
More ambitious, haha! We’re only sliding one way and it’s not up the table.
Yes we're fecking shit, I never said otherwise. My point is that our long-term ambition is to win the league and regularly challenge for major trophies. Whether we'll be able to make that happen anytime soon remains to be seen.
 
A few weeks ago I predicted tonight to be his last game but now I am not sure - I get the impression Levy is happy to write off the season and let Ange blame injuries.

They were shite for 3/4 last season too. It's how they went from "title challengers" after the opening 10 games to not even qualifying for the CL.
 
Fired Mourinho same week as a final, but kept this chancer because they reached the semi-finals when every sane person knew they had a much better chance of going through with a competent manager.

Will never get a job this big ever again and can take his annoying passive-aggressiveness back to the minor leagues

They had a much better chance of going through against this Liverpool? With these injuries? Which manager please?

Someone needs to explain what English fans hate so much about non-Dyche managers. I've seen many a mediocre manager at Spurs in my lifetime... Never one who's gotten this level of ire as Ange. It can't just be the mates...
 
Life comes at you fast, was the best thing since sliced bread a year ago.

Spurs are spurs but Ange is a pretender as well. Bad for eachother, bad apart too.
 
They were always giving him tonight. The question now is whether he gets the FA Cup game.

He probably gets it because there is no time to bring in an alternate, certainly not anyone who will make a difference and there is no point in letting Ryan Mason get his lunch money stolen again. I think he goes after the Villa game unless he can fluke a result but regardless I don't expect him to be there at the end of the season.
 
Not even a bad manager or person but a classic case of being out of your depth. Just not up to it.
 
Awful recruitment. They spent 65m pounds for Solanke and 50 for Brennan Johnson. This is the main problem, not Postecoglou.
 
They had a much better chance of going through against this Liverpool? With these injuries? Which manager please?

Someone needs to explain what English fans hate so much about non-Dyche managers. I've seen many a mediocre manager at Spurs in my lifetime... Never one who's gotten this level of ire as Ange. It can't just be the mates...
By definition you have a much better chance when you have a manager capable of winning games, no matter the opposition. Postecoglou has been awful in that regard.

I am not saying Tottenham should have gone through. I am saying that when it is clear that he needs to go there is no need delaying it and give up the chance of a final because he stumbled to the semi-finals. Competent manager that could organise them, energise them a bit and who knows what could have happened? Postecoglou in charge and the exact thing everyone thought would happen, happened
 
Awful recruitment. They spent 65m pounds for Solanke and 50 for Brennan Johnson. This is the main problem, not Postecoglou.
Not sure them signings are that bad. Solanke is definitely worth that for me. Johnson could have been less but he's not a bad player
 
Big defeat tonight but there are probably at least few reasons he'll get to manage them at Villa as well: 1) Liverpool are best in league and probably Europe atm even if it was 4-0 2) lots of players out injured 3) they beat Brentford few last weekend 4) Villa game is in just 3 days

If they get knocked out to Villa, then there's 7 days before they play against United and that's enough space to get a replacement. On the other hand, I could also see Levy keeping him until the end of the season before bringing in someone like Iraola or Frank (if those two would come).

What's obvious by now is that having this many injuries is probably largely due to Ange's methods. Spurs had no European football last season and still had plenty of injuries. This season he rushed van de Ven and Romero back against Chelsea and they got injured again.

Mathys Tel looked decent tonight. Danso as well I think.
 
Awful recruitment. They spent 65m pounds for Solanke and 50 for Brennan Johnson. This is the main problem, not Postecoglou.

tbf, both are injured right now and between them have scored 14 goals in the PL this season. I think the big problem for Tottenham right now is they simply can't defend and thats mostly because most of their defenders and 1st choice keeper are all out injured and they can't even outscore opponents right now because they've also got several forwards out injured. They should deffinetly be doing better than they are, but there's no way with the injuries they have right now they're a match for the bigger teams.

It is also Levys fault for not putting enough money into the squad and backing the Managers properly. But i'm a broken record the amount of times i've said that about Levy.
 
Get ready to learn australian, mate.
I don't know who's taking a punt on him after this stint. Running players to the ground, get his side rammed through to sometimes, maybe, score a few nice goals.
Get ready to learn Chinese buddy!
 
tbf, both are injured right now and between them have scored 14 goals in the PL this season. I think the big problem for Tottenham right now is they simply can't defend and thats mostly because most of their defenders and 1st choice keeper are all out injured and they can't even outscore opponents right now because they've also got several forwards out injured. They should deffinetly be doing better than they are, but there's no way with the injuries they have right now they're a match for the bigger teams.

It is also Levys fault for not putting enough money into the squad and backing the Managers properly. But i'm a broken record the amount of times i've said that about Levy.

3rd highest net spend in the last 5 years.

5th highest net spend in the last 10 years.

They spend money alright, they just spend it worse than Utd.
 
Vicario, van de Ven, Udogie, Odobert, Maddison, Werner, Johnson could all be back to face United on 16th of February, at least from what I've found googling about it. So would still be without players like Romero and Solanke but with almost everyone else back for that game.
 
3rd highest net spend in the last 5 years.

5th highest net spend in the last 10 years.

They spend money alright, they just spend it worse than Utd.

The issue will always be that they did not spend when they really needed to. I have sympathy that they really did not spend during their period challenging under Poch in the way they should have, Levy saw CL qualification as the prize and would not go further. Spurs do what we do, they splash cash when things are going wrong and miss the opportunity to really improve whilst overpaying for rubbish like Ndombele.
 
Vicario, van de Ven, Udogie, Odobert, Maddison, Werner, Johnson could all be back to face United on 16th of February, at least from what I've found googling about it. So would still be without players like Romero and Solanke but with almost everyone else back for that game.
The way Amorim sets up will nullify Spurs at full strength or not. Was a bit different under Ten Hag. Will be United's easiest game in a while I reckon. If Ange is still there
 
The issue will always be that they did not spend when they really needed to. I have sympathy that they really did not spend during their period challenging under Poch in the way they should have, Levy saw CL qualification as the prize and would not go further. Spurs do what we do, they splash cash when things are going wrong and miss the opportunity to really improve whilst overpaying for rubbish like Ndombele.

The summer before they got to the CL final they bought nobody. The only season they didn't spend up on 100m and more since 16/17.

Levy spends the money, he just spends it badly.
 
By definition you have a much better chance when you have a manager capable of winning games, no matter the opposition. Postecoglou has been awful in that regard.

I am not saying Tottenham should have gone through. I am saying that when it is clear that he needs to go there is no need delaying it and give up the chance of a final because he stumbled to the semi-finals. Competent manager that could organise them, energise them a bit and who knows what could have happened? Postecoglou in charge and the exact thing everyone thought would happen, happened

If there was an obvious manager out there that would make this team (injuries and all) favorites against this Liverpool at Anfield, I'm sure Levy would have pulled the trigger. That you're grasping at "coulds" and "who knows" says it all.
 
The summer before they got to the CL final they bought nobody. The only season they didn't spend up on 100m and more since 16/17.

Levy spends the money, he just spends it badly.

Precisely, he does spend it badly. That summer before the CL they had been title contenders and it was the moment when a bold owner spends to push the team over the top. Levy closed his wallet, content with what he had and although they made the CL final it was a streaky cup run, their league form was already slipping that year and of course the following season they began horribly and Poch was fired. I am not a Spurs fan so I don't follow them closely enough to be more specific but this is what seems to upset the fanbase so much, money is always spent too late to change the trajectory of the club.
 
If there was an obvious manager out there that would make this team (injuries and all) favorites against this Liverpool at Anfield, I'm sure Levy would have pulled the trigger. That you're grasping at "coulds" and "who knows" says it all.
They would have been better off with Ryan Mason winging it. That is the crux of the argument.

This team, and this many injuries is pretty irrelevant. He is as much to blame for it as anyone. He should have been fired months ago, and waiting for him to lose a semi-final when getting him away from the wheel could have yielded a better result is nonsensical
 
The way Amorim sets up will nullify Spurs at full strength or not. Was a bit different under Ten Hag. Will be United's easiest game in a while I reckon. If Ange is still there

League cup tie didn't suggest it. Apart from Baydnir it was pretty much full strength Man. United that night?

Anyway Spurs will probably pick up a bit now in the league but they're going to need a miracle run to finish top 6 so the decision for Levy is does he keep Ange in for Europa League or decide appointing someone mid season is a better bet to win that.
 
Awful recruitment. They spent 65m pounds for Solanke and 50 for Brennan Johnson. This is the main problem, not Postecoglou.
Solanke wasn't a bad signing in my books. They have also brought in the likes of van der ven and kulu in recent years so not all bad
 
Precisely, he does spend it badly. That summer before the CL they had been title contenders and it was the moment when a bold owner spends to push the team over the top. Levy closed his wallet, content with what he had and although they made the CL final it was a streaky cup run, their league form was already slipping that year and of course the following season they began horribly and Poch was fired. I am not a Spurs fan so I don't follow them closely enough to be more specific but this is what seems to upset the fanbase so much, money is always spent too late to change the trajectory of the club.
He still isn't spending anywhere near as much as they could given their revenue
 
They would have been better off with Ryan Mason winging it. That is the crux of the argument

Ah, like when they left Ryan Mason to wing it against City?

Because they lost at Anfield?? Doubtful.
I don’t think even Levy expected anything tonight

More capable managers would have yolo'ed it obviously
 
Precisely, he does spend it badly. That summer before the CL they had been title contenders and it was the moment when a bold owner spends to push the team over the top. Levy closed his wallet, content with what he had and although they made the CL final it was a streaky cup run, their league form was already slipping that year and of course the following season they began horribly and Poch was fired. I am not a Spurs fan so I don't follow them closely enough to be more specific but this is what seems to upset the fanbase so much, money is always spent too late to change the trajectory of the club.

David Pleat has come out and said that it was Poch who didn't want to sign anyone. Not sure how true that is though
 
If there was an obvious manager out there that would make this team (injuries and all) favorites against this Liverpool at Anfield, I'm sure Levy would have pulled the trigger. That you're grasping at "coulds" and "who knows" says it all.
Spursy needed to draw tonight to progress to the final, even a side as bad as Man United this season managed to draw recently in Anfield.
 
Bayindir, Yoro, Lindelof, Eriksen, Antony. Yoro has played more since, but he was very much a backup player at the time. He still is really.

Fair. I just remember Amad causing their backline all sorts of panic in last 20 minutes. Fernandes, Hojlund, Ugarte, Dalot, Mazraoui and Martinez all started so six regulars.
 
Precisely, he does spend it badly. That summer before the CL they had been title contenders and it was the moment when a bold owner spends to push the team over the top. Levy closed his wallet, content with what he had and although they made the CL final it was a streaky cup run, their league form was already slipping that year and of course the following season they began horribly and Poch was fired. I am not a Spurs fan so I don't follow them closely enough to be more specific but this is what seems to upset the fanbase so much, money is always spent too late to change the trajectory of the club.

I think he tried to spend to get them over the line. They just spent badly and didn't sign enough quality to take them to that next step, perhaps the funds were stretched and they went for 4 or 5 players instead of focusing on one or 2 players to improve the starting 11.
 
Spursy needed to draw tonight to progress to the final, even a side as bad as Man United this season managed to draw recently in Anfield.

We are comparing a league match and a derby where form usually goes out the window, to a do or die cup semifinal tie?

Again, I'm waiting for some insight on what about this coach rubs people the wrong way into some ridiculous takes
 
We are comparing a league match and a derby where form usually goes out the window, to a do or die cup semifinal tie?

Again, I'm waiting for some insight on what about this coach rubs people the wrong way into some ridiculous takes
67 points over his last 52 pl games with a "big" club, so people saying he is way out of his depth and should be sacked isn't ridiculous. This isn't enlgish fans hating any non-Dyche manager (which sometimes might be true), it's just seeing that after a short purple patch this guy has an incredibly bad record for Spurs and still a lot of people seem to defend him.