[Ace]

Dropped in favor of the third string keeper at Nimes Olympique.

What an absolute train wreck of a signing. Just another player turned into a meme that were going to struggle to move on as no one is interested in a transfer.

 

[Hester_manc]

The keeper Onana is dropped in favor of is Onana`s cousin.

 

[Member 76197]

I really don't get the blind loyalty to Onana from some on here, what has he done in a United shirt to warrant that?

Xg this xg that, to paraphrase George Orwell:

'The redcafe Onana fans told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.'

Yes ignore the fact he's been a calamity in his time here, ignore the fact he clearly has massive deficiencies in the basics of goalkeeping, ignore the fact he almost singlehandedly ruined our Champions League participation - only pay attention to this little stat of totting up the amount of simple saves he's made. Simple saves he has far more of to make than most keepers as we have a basket case of a football team at present.

And before anyone goes after DDG because of my user name I agreed it was time for him to move on. I just don't think Onana at £50m+ is the answer. Sooner we move on from this terrible decision the better.

A goalkeeper needs to be good at keeping goal first and foremost and this guy has given us plenty of evidence that's not his strength in a short space of time.

 

[sebsheep]

I really don't get the blind loyalty to Onana from some on here, what has he done in a United shirt to warrant that?

Xg this xg that, to paraphrase George Orwell:

'The redcafe Onana fans told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.'

Yes ignore the fact he's been a calamity in his time here, ignore the fact he clearly has massive deficiencies in the basics of goalkeeping, ignore the fact he almost singlehandedly ruined our Champions League participation - only pay attention to this little stat of totting up the amount of simple saves he's made. Simple saves he has far more of to make than most keepers as we have a basket case of a football team at present.

And before anyone goes after DDG because of my user name I agreed it was time for him to move on. I just don't think Onana at £50m+ is the answer. Sooner we move on from this terrible decision the better.

A goalkeeper needs to be good at keeping goal first and foremost and this guy has given us plenty of evidence that's not his strength in a short space of time.

You're reading the thread incorrectly.

 

[Lash]

I really don't get the blind loyalty to Onana from some on here, what has he done in a United shirt to warrant that?

Xg this xg that, to paraphrase George Orwell:

'The redcafe Onana fans told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.'

Yes ignore the fact he's been a calamity in his time here, ignore the fact he clearly has massive deficiencies in the basics of goalkeeping, ignore the fact he almost singlehandedly ruined our Champions League participation - only pay attention to this little stat of totting up the amount of simple saves he's made. Simple saves he has far more of to make than most keepers as we have a basket case of a football team at present.

And before anyone goes after DDG because of my user name I agreed it was time for him to move on. I just don't think Onana at £50m+ is the answer. Sooner we move on from this terrible decision the better.

A goalkeeper needs to be good at keeping goal first and foremost and this guy has given us plenty of evidence that's not his strength in a short space of time.

Username checks out.

 

[Member 76197]

You're reading the thread incorrectly.

No I'm not, there's a small but dedicated cohort of posters on here who will strike down any criticism of Onana and endlessly spew xG stats like some American Soccer commentator. I just don't understand that part.

 

[Member 76197]

Username checks out.

"And before anyone goes after DDG because of my user name I agreed it was time for him to move on."

And your reading and comprehension ability does not

 

[RuudTom83]

No I'm not, there's a small but dedicated cohort of posters on here who will strike down any criticism of Onana and endlessly spew xG stats like some American Soccer commentator. I just don't understand that part.

So not everyone then! just a small group of posters you don't agree with...I can't see a problem with that?

 

[sebsheep]

No I'm not, there's a small but dedicated cohort of posters on here who will strike down any criticism of Onana and endlessly spew xG stats like some American Soccer commentator. I just don't understand that part.

The responses you talk about are replies to people who pop in every time we concede a goal, blame Onana and say he can't save anything.
Nobody in here defends him from reasonable criticism.

 

[the_cliff]

Not really a big fan of Onana but I think some context is needed with why he was dropped. He's had problems with Rigobert Song (the manager) and Eto'o (Head of the Cameroon FA) for a while now, he even retired from international football because of it. There's more to his dropping than just performances.

 

[crossy1686]

Seriously, if the new CEO is serious, every single one of Ten Hags signings will be sold next summer.

 

[pcaming]

We really broke him

 

[crossy1686]

Not really a big fan of Onana but I think some context is needed with why he was dropped. He's had problems with Rigobert Song (the manager) and Eto'o (Head of the Cameroon FA) for a while now, he even retired from international football because of it. There's more to his dropping than just performances.

While all that is true, he was at fault massively for two goals they conceded last game so a real manager wouldn’t pick him until he stops doing that.

 

[crossy1686]

We really broke him

It’s on him. He’s got wrists made of popadom.

 

[ForeverRed1]

Seriously, if the new CEO is serious, every single one of Ten Hags signings will be sold next summer.

Martinez ?

 

[USREDEVIL]

We really broke him

The United curse. All over the field we have players strewn about, broken, busted by the force that is United.

 

[crossy1686]

Martinez ?

Jury is still out, a good 8 months does not a player make.

 

[USREDEVIL]

Jury is still out, a good 8 months does not a player make.

Crossing our fingers that the injury will be in the past, but we've seen this before innit?

 

[crossy1686]

Crossing our fingers that the injury will be in the past, but we've seen this before innit?

Tell me about it…

I think he’ll have a place but I ultimately think he’ll end up at LB. I don’t think he’ll make it at CB long term.

 

[FerociousCorgis]

man this AFCON could barely have gone any worse for Onana. Pisses off people there, plays one game, gets dropped before possibly getting dumped out of tourney. Really only way this could be worse if they advance and he stays there but keeps getting dropped ha.

 

[USREDEVIL]

man this AFCON could barely have gone any worse for Onana. Pisses off people there, plays one game, gets dropped before possibly getting dumped out of tourney. Really only way this could be worse if they advance and he stays there but keeps getting dropped ha.

It's been a shit show.

 

[Offside]

That last goal the other day has to be a wind up. Mr Blobby would’ve got down quicker and saved it. Shocking.

 

[Member 76197]

So not everyone then! just a small group of posters you don't agree with...I can't see a problem with that?

This feels like Homer and Apu going to the CEO of Kwik-e-mart and Homer using up all three questions. Only it's me using my 5 posts of the day to clarify simple points in my original post.

I never said it was everyone to begin with, I said it was some. Someone said I had read the thread wrong. I clarified that there's a small, dedicated group of Onana defenders who I cant understand.

At no point have I said or implied everyone on here is defending Onana or even that a majority is. A quick look over recent pages will tell you who I mean and who my original post was aimed at.

 

[klayton88]

Get him on a plane to Newport now.

 

[Lash]

"And before anyone goes after DDG because of my user name I agreed it was time for him to move on."

And your reading and comprehension ability does not

It was a joke.

I personally don't see.the point of getting rid of him yet. He's been playing Infront of Evans and whoever can stay for for long enough all season, we should sort that out first. He will still have his positives over the season. He has proven prior to be good keeper, with great distribution.

 

[RedRocket9908]

That last goal the other day has to be a wind up. Mr Blobby would’ve got down quicker and saved it. Shocking.

He made a couple of poor mistakes in that game but in honesty they were nothing that Dr Gea didnt do on multiple occasions, look up the goals from the FA Cup Semi Final against Chelsea which is a prime example.

 

[RuudTom83]

Whatever happens Bayindir has to start against Newport next week...it would be so cruel to not even give him that game.

Let Onana get his head right after what looks like an awful tournament so far due to travel, performance and being dropped.

 

[tomaldinho1]

No I'm not, there's a small but dedicated cohort of posters on here who will strike down any criticism of Onana and endlessly spew xG stats like some American Soccer commentator. I just don't understand that part.

As someone who thinks Onana has a future here, it's that I'm sick of us being a counter attacking team and have hoped to find a keeper with his skillset. The CL campaign was a true disaster from him but otherwsie he's done well enough in my opinion, there is a dedicated cohort on here who are literally blaming him for every goal. The truth is I think we've all hoped there'd be a lot more passing from the back on show but then we are also aware (or at least some say they are but then ignore it) that all our defenders have been crocked.

I guess if you are not an Onana fan, you can surely understand there is a benefit to bringing in someone who wants to play like him. Even if he fails, the team will be much better equipped to play with a ball playing keeper and this period was always going to be super difficult (moving to a single DM and bringing in a completely different style of keeper whilst having serious goal issues and lots of off field problems). On the stats part, I don't think people should read them as gospel but if Onana is performing at the top/near the top of a lot of GK metrics it could make some of the 'eye test' gang consider a trip to the opticians?

 

[pocco]

What a shocking season this has been. To think this guy was going to transform us into a top team according to RedCafe, and now not only has he been pretty rubbish, we've altogether gone backwards in every sense. And most posters want Onana gone or replaced now

 

[Member 76197]

It was a joke.

I personally don't see.the point of getting rid of him yet. He's been playing Infront of Evans and whoever can stay for for long enough all season, we should sort that out first. He will still have his positives over the season. He has proven prior to be good keeper, with great distribution.

Ah my apologies then.

I can't say I agree with the rest of your point but I hope you are right. I dont think the CB pairing should affect how quickly a keeper can get down to save a low shot, whether they can catch a ball or at least control the rebound to a safe area.

His comedy highlights in half a season here speak for themselves. I'd say you'd be hard pushed to even make a decent YouTube collection of his supposed highlights in a United shirt.

 

[Matt Varnish]

As someone who thinks Onana has a future here, it's that I'm sick of us being a counter attacking team and have hoped to find a keeper with his skillset. The CL campaign was a true disaster from him but otherwsie he's done well enough in my opinion, there is a dedicated cohort on here who are literally blaming him for every goal. The truth is I think we've all hoped there'd be a lot more passing from the back on show but then we are also aware (or at least some say they are but then ignore it) that all our defenders have been crocked.

I guess if you are not an Onana fan, you can surely understand there is a benefit to bringing in someone who wants to play like him. Even if he fails, the team will be much better equipped to play with a ball playing keeper and this period was always going to be super difficult (moving to a single DM and bringing in a completely different style of keeper whilst having serious goal issues and lots of off field problems). On the stats part, I don't think people should read them as gospel but if Onana is performing at the top/near the top of a lot of GK metrics it could make some of the 'eye test' gang consider a trip to the opticians?

Agreed he is not to blame for every goal we concede, there have been some that would have beaten a prime Schmiechel, VDS & DDG.
However, there have been quite a few howlers, and mistakes in positioning, not coming for the ball, failing to narrow the angle, continually beaten on his near post, that it can be said he is 90% culpable for, everyone makes mistakes, but they learn from them, this guy doesn't, I firmly believe that in his head he thinks he the best thing sliced bread, signing for United has somehow convinced him he is world class, and he is far from it.
He is glued to his line
He dives late
He cannot read the game
He cannot jump
He's slow
He does not command his area.

 

[Andycoleno9]

Martinez ?

I like Martinez. But i don't understand all the praise that he gets. Guy missed nearly half of games already. And lets not pretend that he was always great when he was playing.

 

[Flying high]

Ah my apologies then.

I can't say I agree with the rest of your point but I hope you are right. I dont think the CB pairing should affect how quickly a keeper can get down to save a low shot, whether they can catch a ball or at least control the rebound to a safe area.

His comedy highlights in half a season here speak for themselves. I'd say you'd be hard pushed to even make a decent YouTube collection of his supposed highlights in a United shirt.

I think you might be a bit biased, Dave

Seriously though, he's made some great saves and shown excellent resilience to come back from his early mistakes. We'll see if he's good enough over the next few months, hopefully with a settled defence in front of him.

I think he'll be fine.

 

[Red00012]

That's a really new low, surely that's his confidence gone?

Where did it go?

 

[RedRocket9908]

Agreed he is not to blame for every goal we concede, there have been some that would have beaten a prime Schmiechel, VDS & DDG.
However, there have been quite a few howlers, and mistakes in positioning, not coming for the ball, failing to narrow the angle, continually beaten on his near post, that it can be said he is 90% culpable for, everyone makes mistakes, but they learn from them, this guy doesn't, I firmly believe that in his head he thinks he the best thing sliced bread, signing for United has somehow convinced him he is world class, and he is far from it.
He is glued to his line
He dives late
He cannot read the game
He cannot jump
He's slow
He does not command his area.

You could have posted the exact same comment about De Gea who was litterally guilty of everything you mentioned during his time at the club.

 

[Oranges038]

Agreed he is not to blame for every goal we concede, there have been some that would have beaten a prime Schmiechel, VDS & DDG.
However, there have been quite a few howlers, and mistakes in positioning, not coming for the ball, failing to narrow the angle, continually beaten on his near post, that it can be said he is 90% culpable for, everyone makes mistakes, but they learn from them, this guy doesn't, I firmly believe that in his head he thinks he the best thing sliced bread, signing for United has somehow convinced him he is world class, and he is far from it.
He is glued to his line
He dives late
He cannot read the game
He cannot jump
He's slow
He does not command his area.

No real change from the last 5 years then.

 

[sixdwarf]

Dropped in favor of the third string keeper at Nimes Olympique.

What an absolute train wreck of a signing. Just another player turned into a meme that were going to struggle to move on as no one is interested in a transfer.

And Ten Hag cannot bring himself to drop him. Happy to ditch Ronaldo one of the greats of world football when he should have embraced him. But Onana who has only shown that he is a clown of a keeper he is happy to encourage. Incredible.

 

[Matt Varnish]

You could have posted the exact same comment about De Gea who was litterally guilty of everything you mentioned during his time at the club.

I could have, but this is the Onana thread, so I stayed on topic.

 

[Matt Varnish]

No real change from the last 5 years then.

Oh please bang a different drum

 

[Chinchy98]

I think you might be a bit biased, Dave

Seriously though, he's made some great saves and shown excellent resilience to come back from his early mistakes. We'll see if he's good enough over the next few months, hopefully with a settled defence in front of him.

I think he'll be fine.

Great saves plural? I barely remember a single save where I’ve thought only elite keepers save that?

The Haaland header in the City match isn’t *that* good. It’s a poor header into the middle of the goal

Outside of that I can’t remember any “Great saves”