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2023-24 Performances


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5.6 Season Average Rating
Appearances
51
Clean sheets
13
Goals
0
Assists
0
Yellow cards
6
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I don’t fully understand the point here, but the fact that he’s been shite all season for United, and is now being shite for his NT points to it not being the teams at fault?
Are you trying to suggest that our defence has been good?
 
Our defense has been out injured! :lol: Johnny Evans has been good.
Right. So my point was, the performances of the keeper aren't the only thing that matters when it comes to keeping a clean sheet. So people bringing them up to judge a keeper negatively or positively is generally useless.

He's not been rubbish all season either.
 
Right. So my point was, the performances of the keeper aren't the only thing that matters when it comes to keeping a clean sheet. So people bringing them up to judge a keeper negatively or positively is generally useless.

He's not been rubbish all season either.
It’s the keepers job to keep the ball out of the net. Primary object number one. By definition a clean sheet is their job.
Yes there are other factors, and obviously some allowance is given if a defender is at fault, but the goalkeeper is the last and ultimate line of defense. If he is conceding goals then he isn’t doing his job. If the ball gets past him we are conceding goals, and too many times this season he has made mistakes to give away goal scoring opportunities, or made mistakes to allow the ball into his net. He hasn’t been good enough, by his own admission, so far this season.
I don’t understand why some posters have such a hard time admitting that when the guy has said it himself. He doesn’t need excuse after excuse, he can just be having a bad season, he can just be shite. I think he has time on his side, and currently a manager who backs him - but it’s worrying that he is poor for Cameroon too, I hoped he’d have a flyer and get back his confidence but that doesn’t seem how it will go.
 
He's completely devoid of belief right now, I feel for him a bit.
He’s weird though as he’s still running up to give advice to someone taking a free kick near the other area, if I seen that video right, so he’s not lacking confidence unless it’s all a stupid front.
His technique of being a keeper just looks shit
 
He’s weird though as he’s still running up to give advice to someone taking a free kick near the other area, if I seen that video right, so he’s not lacking confidence unless it’s all a stupid front.
His technique of being a keeper just looks shit
I think he is a very confident person, but I don’t think he has confidence in his ability/game at the moment if you understand the difference I am trying to infer. I also agree it’s very sad to see it. I expected him to make mistakes through being cocky and stupid before he signed, I didn’t expect him to lack basic goalkeeping ability.
 
I really wanted him. Thought he was going to be brilliant for us. And that it would transform how we play

But it couldn’t have gone much worse so far. His confidence looks shot. And it seems he’ll be back soon
 
From the BBC Sport match report -
That’s just doing my job and highlighting the clear agenda agaisnt him. If Allison did that would people even bat an eye…obviously not. It’s stupid to find fault in that and it’s reflective of this thread that every goal conceded is somehow his fault.
 
That’s just doing my job and highlighting the clear agenda agaisnt him. If Allison did that would people even bat an eye…obviously not. It’s stupid to find fault in that and it’s reflective of this thread that every goal conceded is somehow his fault.
He’s not at fault for punching the ball back into play, and not away from the goal? He’s not at fault for literally presenting the opposing team with a goal scoring opportunity?
 
He’s just not a very good keeper. Apart from his obvious mistakes, he lets in so many soft goals that better keepers would save. The third goal tonight was a classic example of that. He’s so slow to get to the ground and doesn’t have the reach to save a fairly weak shot.
 
Better with his feet than with his hands but still he's better than what he's showing. Confidence affects goalies as much as it does strikers. He'll improve once he and the team have settled.
 
3rd goal showing his lack of technique yet again. He just doesnt take the right foot movement to get any sort of power on his dive. Literally just flopping slowly. Needs to spend the foreseeable future with a GK coach who just drills the basics in to him.
Isn't that already too late considering his age ?
 
He puts on a front to pretend to be confident but he is not. Psychologically he is struggling, he is mentally not cut out for the PL. He may improve his GK skills but I don’t think he is mentally cut out for it. He will go in next 1-2 seasons.
 
It’s the keepers job to keep the ball out of the net. Primary object number one. By definition a clean sheet is their job.
Yes there are other factors, and obviously some allowance is given if a defender is at fault, but the goalkeeper is the last and ultimate line of defense. If he is conceding goals then he isn’t doing his job. If the ball gets past him we are conceding goals, and too many times this season he has made mistakes to give away goal scoring opportunities, or made mistakes to allow the ball into his net. He hasn’t been good enough, by his own admission, so far this season.
I don’t understand why some posters have such a hard time admitting that when the guy has said it himself. He doesn’t need excuse after excuse, he can just be having a bad season, he can just be shite. I think he has time on his side, and currently a manager who backs him - but it’s worrying that he is poor for Cameroon too, I hoped he’d have a flyer and get back his confidence but that doesn’t seem how it will go.
Pretty much a defences job as well, no? Neither is solely responsible for them.

Most posters in here manage to criticise where it's due, and then you have people like yourself who are in here every time we concede a goal calling him rubbish. It's like you all need him to be bad. It's one of the weirdest obsessions I've seen on here and this site has had Amadeus!
 
He puts on a front to pretend to be confident but he is not. Psychologically he is struggling, he is mentally not cut out for the PL. He may improve his GK skills but I don’t think he is mentally cut out for it. He will go in next 1-2 seasons.

Came here to mention this. His over confidence really grates on me, he talks as though he's Eric Cantona or Zlatan. But his performances don't back it up whatsoever. The only thing worse than an underperforming player is one that actually thinks he's great and everyone is stupid for questioning him. Can't remember many other player like this before, completely lacking in humility and self awareness, blunder after blunder. Completely unable to reflect on what's going wrong and just say they'll work on it, instead he acts like he's got it all figured out.
 
He’s weird though as he’s still running up to give advice to someone taking a free kick near the other area, if I seen that video right, so he’s not lacking confidence unless it’s all a stupid front.
His technique of being a keeper just looks shit

That's exactly what it is. I think it's just for the cameras and his teammates most likely see through it.
 
Guys, we’ve got a problem at keeper which we’re well beyond be able to pretend isn’t a problem. I actually happen to believe that if given another season or maybe two at most that Onana will pull himself together as a average keeper we can rely on to perform the basic tasks of stopping weak shots, but until then we’ll just have muddle along dropping stupid points as we did v Spurs. After the AFCON is over he should retire from international football and focus on his club duties and commit himself to learning the goalkeeping fundamentals. In the meantime, let’s find a young keeper who slot in 2-4 years during which time he can be developed while we phase out Onana, who quite frankly has been a laughingstock for us, symbolic of everything that’s wrong with United right now.
 
We aren't going to win anything with this poor quality of goalkeeping. If ETH persists on using him as first choice GK, he is going to leave together when he gets sacked
 
Priority for the new ownership (and manager) should be to sort out this goalkeeping mess. Nobody is going to want to buy him of course, but we can’t persist with him. He’s genuinely terrible on a consistent basis.

If Altay isn’t up to par, we really need to find a proper #1 heading into next season. Onana can sit on the bench with the other ten Hag marquee signings like Mount and Antony. Over 200 million wasted on the three of them.
 
How can your defence have any confidence in this guy? They’re probably a bag of nerves thinking just about any shot can go in.
 
Guys, we’ve got a problem at keeper which we’re well beyond be able to pretend isn’t a problem. I actually happen to believe that if given another season or maybe two at most that Onana will pull himself together as a average keeper we can rely on to perform the basic tasks of stopping weak shots, but until then we’ll just have muddle along dropping stupid points as we did v Spurs. After the AFCON is over he should retire from international football and focus on his club duties and commit himself to learning the goalkeeping fundamentals. In the meantime, let’s find a young keeper who slot in 2-4 years during which time he can be developed while we phase out Onana, who quite frankly has been a laughingstock for us, symbolic of everything that’s wrong with United right now.
Genuinely confused as to how you watched the game vs Spurs and came out thinking "y'know, this game proves we should replace Onana". Was this the game that made you realise that he isn't going to transform our attack?
 
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