Anderson on his way out?

Cina said:
Xavi was always consistently good/excellent, he's always been known for it. ...
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That is not true. For Barca he was a consistent disappointment in the Guardiola role to the extent that he was hated by the fans and the hierarchy and they wanted him sold. Only the returning Van Gaal and Gaspart resisted and it cost them dear. eventually. If Rijkaard hadn't gone to Barca and handed him a new role, the one his now a legend in, he'd have never become what he is now.

I don't ever get why folks love to re write his history as a player. When he is the rich man's example of a Darren Fletcher turnaround.
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
That is not true. For Barca he was a consistent disappointment in the Guardiola role to the extent that he was hated by the fans and the hierachy and they wanted him sold. Only the retuning Van Gaal and Gaspart resisted and it cost them dear. eventually. If Rijkaard hadn't gone to Barca and handed him a new role, the one his now a legend in, he'd have never become what he is now.

I don't ever get why folks love to re write his history as a player. When he is the rich man's example of a Darren Fletcher turnaround.
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Did you watch him play or are you just reading this out of a book?
 
Cina said:
And I'm not willing to enter another multi quote debate with you, so we'll end it there :D



Not a lot, seeing as I would've been 12, and La Liga wasn't on here nearly as much, but he's been in the Spain international squad constantly since he was 20 and in that Barca team, and was always rated really highly. It's not a case where he miraculously transformed into the worlds best midfielder overnight, which seems to be the opinion of a lot of people. Xavi was always rated extremely highly throughout his entire career but he was never the focal point of that team until a few years ago because of players like Ronaldinho and Deco. We'd be lucky if Anderson turned out to be half the player is.

And I could ask you the same thing, how much of Xavi did YOU see at that age that allows you to draw the conclusion that comparing Anderson to him is logical?

You know you can judge a players talent and potential on what he displays on the pitch, despite his age and Anderson has never done anything to the standard Xavi does or shown that he could possibly do so. Also, he's 24, I saw Xavi quite a bit when he was 24/25, he was a feckload better than Anderson is.

Also, the bold part, constantly telling something they know nothing about football isn't really a good way to express your opinions now is it? Lots of players have recovered from broken legs without any problems, he was 18 when it happened, that's 6 years. You're using that as an excuse? None of his other injuries have ever been that serious.
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It's not worth it to answer all of your opinions but I give this a try.

A lot of interested footballs supporters from my generation have only been to Camp Nou and Bernabeu a couple of times if they where lucky, it was very expensive to fly from Scandinavia to Spain before my country joined the EU. I was along those lucky people and I have been a couple of times to Spain, Italy and England to watch football of highest level. I also subscribe to the channels who was showing PL, CL, Serie A, Bundesliga and La Liga somewhere in the end of 1999. Before that it was mostly PL and Serie A on the telly, games who was available for free.

It was like a new world to see all the top teams playing every week the whole season. I was watching Barca and Madrid almost every week for a long long time, especially when Ronaldinho and Henke Larsson was around. They where my favorites and it was a joy to see them play. Apart from watching United, and I think I haven't missed many games with them the last 12 years, I saw the top teams in the PL and La Liga almost every week.

Xavi was a talent from the beginning but he wasn't exactly in the same bracket as Rooney and Ronaldo. But I'm sure FCBarca could tell us more about this. To be honest with you I don't exactly remember Xavi's character in his young day's. Off course I knew him by name and style but I couldn't exactly tell what kind of player he was. With stars like Rodaldinho and Deco it was easy to be in the shadows. I remember it was some fuss around him when he had his long term injury, a lot of clubs where interested but nothing spectacular. In my memory he had his first real good season 2007/2008, but I'm not sure.



The conclusion I try to tell you is to be patient. A talent is always a talent and time can do wonder. Maybe you are right and he's a sick note and not as good as I'm painting him. My impression of Ando is the same as I had when I saw a young Xavi. Talented and impressive but he wasn't exactly a star player.

I'm a optimist and I believe in faith. If Anderson can get over his injuries' and become half the player of Xavi I'm satisfied, but what I'm sure of is that he have the talent to be very very good player. It's not much who sets him apart from a young Xavi what I can remember. But memories is like old love affairs, you remember the feelings but it's difficulty to remember all the girls.
 
The Neviller said:
Did you watch him play or are you just reading this out of a book?
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I've watched Xavi play since his debut. The notion that he was consistently good as a youngster is a pure lie & that is putting it kindly. Xavi is the poster child for what rewards are reaped by clubs that persevere with talents that take long to be fulfilled.
 
He's not comparing them, he's saying that some players develop at slower rate then others.
 
The Neviller said:
He was more consistently good at Anderson's age than Anderson is. The comparison is a stupid one. I've watched him play too, there is no comparison.
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You are the only one on Earth who has been comparing them that way frankly. Everyone else making any sort of comparison is saying we ought to be patient with Anderson like Barca eventually were with Xavi. Because his natural talent is worth the try.

Furthermore, as a person who has watched both as youngsters I have no doubt Anderson on his best days for us has shown far more than Xavi ever did at his best as a young lad for Barca. But that doesn't matter. Xavi was for my money in a worse side and trying to play a role that was never naturally his.

For me ''the consistently good argument'' also frankly matters zilch and is baseless. Because young midfielders should never be expected to be consistent till they hit about age 25. Besides, neither Xavi nor Anderson as he has been now can ever be put in the category of midfielders who have been consistent youngsters. Anderson currently makes it easier for folks to think he is so much worse than Xavi at the same age simply because he is hardly ever fit for long enough.

In fact midfielders with their type of talent, who are to become future play makers being consistent at a young age rare indeed.
 
7even said:
It's not worth it to answer all of your opinions but I give this a try.

A lot of interested footballs supporters from my generation have only been to Camp Nou and Bernabeu a couple of times if they where lucky, it was very expensive to fly from Scandinavia to Spain before my country joined the EU. I was along those lucky people and I have been a couple of times to Spain, Italy and England to watch football of highest level. I also subscribe to the channels who was showing PL, CL, Serie A, Bundesliga and La Liga somewhere in the end of 1999. Before that it was mostly PL and Serie A on the telly, games who was available for free.

It was like a new world to see all the top teams playing every week the whole season. I was watching Barca and Madrid almost every week for a long long time, especially when Ronaldinho and Henke Larsson was around. They where my favorites and it was a joy to see them play. Apart from watching United, and I think I haven't missed many games with them the last 12 years, I saw the top teams in the PL and La Liga almost every week.

Xavi was a talent from the beginning but he wasn't exactly in the same bracket as Rooney and Ronaldo. But I'm sure FCBarca could tell us more about this. To be honest with you I don't exactly remember Xavi's character in his young day's. Off course I knew him by name and style but I couldn't exactly tell what kind of player he was. With stars like Rodaldinho and Deco it was easy to be in the shadows. I remember it was some fuss around him when he had his long term injury, a lot of clubs where interested but nothing spectacular. In my memory he had his first real good season 2007/2008, but I'm not sure.



The conclusion I try to tell you is to be patient. A talent is always a talent and time can do wonder. Maybe you are right and he's a sick note and not as good as I'm painting him. My impression of Ando is the same as I had when I saw a young Xavi. Talented and impressive but he wasn't exactly a star player.

I'm a optimist and I believe in faith. If Anderson can get over his injuries' and become half the player of Xavi I'm satisfied, but what I'm sure of is that he have the talent to be very very good player. It's not much who sets him apart from a young Xavi what I can remember. But memories is like old love affairs, you remember the feelings but it's difficulty to remember all the girls.
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That bolded part is pretty much what I said.

You don't need to tell me to be patient here, I said we should keep him, partly because our midfield is so average, and because I know the £15m is nonsense. However 5 seasons is a long time for any player, no matter how old they are and 24 really isn't that young anymore given all the first team exposure he has had already.

What I do not in any way agree with is comparing him with Xavi. Anderson could still become a very good player but he will never be at his level. Your natural ability on the ball is always evident for everyone to see and the more you age the more it becomes about maturity as a footballer and decisions as opposed to natural talent in order to be a better player. Nani is a prime example of this, his ability was plain for all to see and up there with the very best but it was his decisions and stupidity that let him down, now that he's fixed those he is one of the best. I haven't seen *that* level of ability from Anderson to suggest he could be one of the greats. Very good, but not at the level of Xavi or Swiney.
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
You are the only one on Earth who has been comparing them that way frankly. Everyone else making any sort of comparison is saying we ought to be patient with Anderson like Barca eventually were with Xavi. Because his natural talent is worth the try.
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No he's not, this whole thing started because he was compared as 'the closest thing we have' to Xavi or Schweinstiger. Everything since then has been a tangent.
 
It's pointless using an example like Xavi to try and defend Anderson, completely pointless. Sure, you will get some players who blossom late and don't really show signs of actually hitting top form until they do, however that doesn't mean you can sit around and patiently wait because you assume that it happens with all players. The fact is that the majority of players in this situation probably won't be good enough to consistently play well at the top level. I think Anderson will fall into that category to be honest.
 
I watched Xavi at 18 put in a better performance for Barca than any Anderson ever has in a United shirt. I didn't start any stupid comparison, I just said the comparison was stupid, because it is.

And as I've said, I'd be more than happy to see us bide our time with Anderson and give him more chances, because I think he has potential and I'd rather see it fulfilled here than elsewhere.
 
Cheesy said:
It's pointless using an example like Xavi to try and defend Anderson, completely pointless. Sure, you will get some players who blossom late and don't really show signs of actually hitting top form until they do, however that doesn't mean you can sit around and patiently wait because you assume that it happens with all players. The fact is that the majority of players in this situation probably won't be good enough to consistently play well at the top level. I think Anderson will fall into that category to be honest.
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It's a fair point you make, but i think it all depends on how you view the player's talent. Chief is right in the sense that if you rate a player's talent high enough, then you have to be patient enough to see that talent emerge.

Where i have a problem with the Xavi/ Anderson debate is that i have no clue as to whether Xavi suffered from similar fitness issues such as Anderson has. A lot of Anderson's progress has been stunted by the fact he is hardly ever fit enough to play enough games to realistically improve his game.

That is more of a concern to me than his level of talent. I have never heard of Xavi having any long standing issues with fitness when he was younger so i am presuming his late development would be due to not being comfortable in where he was played.

Similar i am presuming to Henry. An ok winger to one of the best strikers in the world just by a change of role!

So to sum up, i would love to know why Anderson suffers so much from persistent fitness issues. It is hard to imagine how he is going to ever fulfill his early promise until he can sort this problem out. So for me the jury's still out on Anderson, super talented, but his injury record throws most theories about how good he will become out of the window. We are still speculating on what he will or will not become after 5 years, and we are no closer to answering that question. As Chief says, how long SAF has already waited and will continue to wait before making a decision, must obviously be based on whether he believes he can become a true great.
 
The Neviller said:
I watched Xavi at 18 put in a better performance for Barca than any Anderson ever has in a United shirt. I didn't start any stupid comparison, I just said the comparison was stupid, because it is.

And as I've said, I'd be more than happy to see us bide our time with Anderson and give him more chances, because I think he has potential and I'd rather see it fulfilled here than elsewhere.
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Well I'm sure you have but Xavi made his international debut when he was 20 years old and have a average of 16 games a season in La Liga between 98/99 - 00/01 (18-21).

Compare that to Anderson and have in mind all his injuries and the comparison is there in my opinion.
 
7even said:
Well I'm sure you have but Xavi made his international debut when he was 20 years old and have a average of 16 games a season in La Liga between 98/99 - 00/01 (18-21).

Compare that to Anderson and have in mind all his injuries and the comparison is there in my opinion.
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But they are not even remotely similar players so what is the point?
 
Cina said:
No he's not, this whole thing started because he was compared as 'the closest thing we have' to Xavi or Schweinstiger. Everything since then has been a tangent.
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Well it should have been plain ignored. Its like saying Fletcher is the closest thing we have to Keane. It's just a classic case of drawing comparisons for the heck of it.
 
Cheesy said:
It's pointless using an example like Xavi to try and defend Anderson, completely pointless. Sure, you will get some players who blossom late and don't really show signs of actually hitting top form until they do, however that doesn't mean you can sit around and patiently wait because you assume that it happens with all players. The fact is that the majority of players in this situation probably won't be good enough to consistently play well at the top level. I think Anderson will fall into that category to be honest.
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The real fact rather is that most attacking midfield players take longer to mature.

Xavi is just one the latest success stories of many frankly. (Schweintieger being the most recent in my book). That is why the eagerness to write off creative midfield players before they hit 25, just because they are either wildly inconsistent or injury prone, an attitude that I often witness on the cafe, constantly baffles me.
 
This was way back in 2003 when I lived in Spain, but we used to watch every Barca game religiously because virtually all of my friends were Valencia or Barca fans. And to a man, they all used to say Xavi was shit and that Barca needed to sign a real presence in midfield. I remember the endless envious conversation when Utd picked up Veron.

Funny how time changes things.
 
simonhch said:
This was way back in 2003 when I lived in Spain, but we used to watch every Barca game religiously because virtually all of my friends were Valencia or Barca fans. And to a man, they all used to say Xavi was shit and that Barca needed to sign a real presence in midfield. I remember the endless envious conversation when Utd picked up Veron.

Funny how time changes things.
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Spot on
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
The real fact rather is that most attacking midfield players take longer to mature.

Xavi is just one the latest success stories of many frankly. (Schweintieger being the most recent in my book). That is why the eagerness to write off creative midfield players before they hit 25, just because they are either wildly inconsistent or injury prone, an attitude that I often witness on the cafe, constantly baffles me.
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I think you may need to have another look at what an attacking midfielder is. Anderson was touted as one when he first arrived in the eyes of many, but he is just not an attacking midfielder. Neither are Xavi or Schweinsteiger for that matter.

Again, you can't just look at some examples and automatically assume that because it took longer for someone like Xavi to mature, it is guaranteed that Anderson will be the same. The difference with players you mentioned is thart before they reached their best, they still showed some glimpses of being top quality players. I haven't seen that with Anderson. I've seen glimpses that show he could be a good player potentially, as he's only a decent one right now, however nothing to suggest he'll be a top player like some seem to believe.

As well as that, his attitude doesn't help. He seems to be a bit of a partier who is irresponsible at times, while the fact that he seems to be constantly unfit doesn't help either. If he had only one problem in this aspect, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt, but for me it's not a good sign for him. If you've got an unfit player, then you'd hope he was doing everything he can in a footballing sense to get rid of those fitness worries. I don't see that with Anderson. You can point out that there's no way our fitness team or Fergie would let him away with a lack of effort, and I'm not saying they are, but it's clear that he's an unfit player who doesn't have the best mentality.

To be honest, if he doesn't do it this season, then we should get rid. I wouldn't hesitate to get rid of him now if we get a good offer. It's all well and good being hopeful, but sometimes hope and believe is just another way of describing someone who is fickle in their beliefs. He's had 5 years here, and is yet to really show much that he's going to be a top player. How much longer can we afford to give him, just because others players have hit their peak in later years? It's poor reasoning when you look at it that way.
 
This is how it started.

gooDevil said:
We can't get a player of his quality for what we'd get for him if sold.

Besides Scholes he's the most creative passer on the team.

Like most of our players he's underrated so we won't get a fair value, people seem to think it's magic that a midfield of Carrick and Anderson could win a big game.
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And that's the key line in this. After watching the the first 3 rounds in the EC I can't honestly see many young midfielders who's much better then a fully fit Ando. Posters are banging on a £20m-30m M'Vila, or a £30m+ Modric and so on but are those player really so much better? IMO Sir Alex was spot on regarding talent and it's so depressing to see how our own players are contantlity under valued.

And regarding the comparison to a young Xavi and Schweinsteiger I find it legitimate. Have some of you completely forgotten Ando's run in season 10/11 and his start in 11/12? He was 19 years old when went toe to toe with Gerrad. 21 when he together with Carrick and Fletcher was dominating Arsenal home and away in the CL SF. I completely agree that he's a sick note of highest order and his stamina is not good enough and he's inconsistent but based on pure talent he's up their with the best. I want us to give him a chance to fulfill his potential and so far I haven't seen any other young midfielder who's so much better.

There is no reason to bang on this forever and I don't think my post will change anybody's mind but I will hold on to my opinion until reality proves me wrong.
 
7even said:
This is how it started.



And that's the key line in this. After watching the the first 3 rounds in the EC I can't honestly see many young midfielders who's much better then a fully fit Ando. Posters are banging on a £20m-30m M'Vila, or a £30m+ Modric and so on but are those player really so much better? IMO Sir Alex was spot on regarding talent and it's so depressing to see how our own players are contantlity under valued.

And regarding the comparison to a young Xavi and Schweinsteiger I find it legitimate. Have some of you completely forgotten Ando's run in season 10/11 and his start in 11/12? He was 19 years old when went toe to toe with Gerrad. 21 when he together with Carrick and Fletcher was dominating Arsenal home and away in the CL SF. I completely agree that he's a sick note of highest order and his stamina is not good enough and he's inconsistent but based on pure talent he's up their with the best. I want us to give him a chance to fulfill his potential and so far I haven't seen any other young midfielder who's so much better.

There is no reason to bang on this forever and I don't think my post will change anybody's mind but I will hold on to my opinion until reality proves me wrong.
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What does this word even mean? It it a cross between constantly and consistently?
 
Cheesy said:
I think you may need to have another look at what an attacking midfielder is. Anderson was touted as one when he first arrived in the eyes of many, but he is just not an attacking midfielder. Neither are Xavi or Schweinsteiger for that matter..
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They still count in my example because they are play making midfield talents.

As for Anderson, he has always been an attacking midfielder. His positional play in deeper midfield confirms it. It's SAF who was the one who tried to convert him into more of a Xavi type. Which has taken a while for him to get to grips with due to injury interruption.

The reason why people imagine Anderson isn't naturally an attacking midfielder is because they imagine that a rule exists that attacking midfielders must always score goals on the regular. Which is pure myth.

A player like Valeron was a classic example of a non regular scoring attacking midfielder.

Cheesy said:
Again, you can't just look at some examples and automatically assume that because it took longer for someone like Xavi to mature, it is guaranteed that Anderson will be the same.
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Some examples? How about Zidane, Xavi, Pirlo, Bastian Schweinstieger, Ballack, Deco, Lampard? I could inflate that list even further.

It has feck all to do with guarantees. Rather it has everything to do with facing reality. Midfielders take long to mature and attacking/playmaking types longest of all.

Cheesy said:
The difference with players you mentioned is thart before they reached their best, they still showed some glimpses of being top quality players. I haven't seen that with Anderson....
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That is simply because you are amongst those who re-write history about his play when ever he is out injured for an extended period. Anyone who can claim Anderson has not shown glimpses of what his talent can do at is best is simply a liar. For even at the start of last season he showed that quality clearly alongside Cleverley before injury split them up.


Cheesy said:
How much longer can we afford to give him
just because others players have hit their peak in later years?
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As long as it takes. That is why he was handed a new 5 year deal. His talent is worth being patient about and the club's coaching staff clearly agree.

Cheesy said:
It's poor reasoning when you look at it that way.
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Rather what is the poor reasoning is to expect the club to readily turn its back on a long term investment that has the potential of yielding great dividends. Especially when there are so many examples of those dividends being yielded after patience in many other instances.

The chief problem here is impatience of fans, not Anderson's development trajectory. Because if the club was never happy with him he'd have not been given an extended deal.
 
lots of names mentioned in this thread like xavi/sweinsteiger/Valeron etc...

lets not kid ourselves

1. Anderson, in reality, has achieved nothing major of note in his time at United - you couldn't say he's been instrumental in our success in his time at the club - he's been a passenger and his best spell at the club were the first few weeks of last season where he and cleverley were good

2. He has barely played in the last 2 seasons

the key thing is that his 'potential' will need to start to be realized soon or I can't see him being carried too much longer given his injury issues and discipline issues (weight management)

in my heart of hearts I could never see him being in the same league let alone sentence as Xavi - he just doesnt have the same passing ability - that doesnt really come with maturity does it?
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
That is not true. For Barca he was a consistent disappointment in the Guardiola role to the extent that he was hated by the fans and the hierarchy and they wanted him sold. Only the returning Van Gaal and Gaspart resisted and it cost them dear. eventually. If Rijkaard hadn't gone to Barca and handed him a new role, the one his now a legend in, he'd have never become what he is now.

I don't ever get why folks love to re write his history as a player. When he is the rich man's example of a Darren Fletcher turnaround.
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Because boards like this one fester with people who try to act manly and intelligent by pretending to know more than they do. Then try to one up each other with more and more obscure and falsified facts.

Reminds me of a conversation two of my friends had. One was a Christian coke head, the other a Muslim who drank and bounced for a strip club. Both had no idea about their own religion, but were able to argue politics and religion for hours by making up crazier facts than the other.

Sometimes, you just have to sit back and play bystander to enjoy the comedy.
 
buckooo1978 said:
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1. Anderson, in reality, has achieved nothing major of note in his time at United - you couldn't say he's been instrumental in our success in his time at the club - he's been a passenger and his best spell at the club were the first few weeks of last season where he and cleverley were good....
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More revisionism.

1. His first season at United has to date been his best.

2. His best spell for United actually came in the season in which we hammered Arsenal home and away in the champions league. He was excellent for an extend period until that horror show in the Champions league final.

3. He has achieved plenty of note in a United shirt. Scoring in a champion's league final penalty shoot out is an example. Having a starring role in emphatic champion's league semi final wins twice. He has aslo contributed to all our league wins since he arrived. Save for his last 2 severely injury plagued seasons, he has been contributing enough to not be considered a passenger.
 
Anderson is a fecking ace player and you all know nothing, go back to your he's fat and eats pies bollocks. I'm not multiquoting with any of you. What is this thread even doing in the transfer forum?
 
Sometimes when I watch Anderson, I see a top class midfielder. Full of energy, wins the ball, drives the team forward, spots a great pass. Almost unplayable. And sometimes I see a player who you couldn't play with, who always tries big passes and fails to hit the target.

Consistency is the issue but behind that hide the fitness problems. If you're unfit you can't play and you can't improve. That's the issue. I believe a regularly fit Anderson will become the player we all hope for. But I've no idea now if he can be reguarly fit.
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
More revisionism.

1. His first season at United has to date been his best.

2. His best spell for United actually came in the season in which we hammered Arsenal home and away in the champions league. He was excellent for an extend period until that horror show in the Champions league final.

3. He has achieved plenty of note in a United shirt. Scoring in a champion's league final penalty shoot out is an example. Having a starring role in emphatic champion's league semi final wins twice. He has aslo contributed to all our league wins since he arrived. Save for his last 2 severely injury plagued seasons, he has been contributing enough to not be considered a passenger.
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1. he was good in his first season - its not revisionism - its just that this past season he was a senior midfielder in a partnership with cleverley and added some goals/assists to his game

2. anderson at best has given us sporadic games - sorry to break it to you but he doesnt really shit on fabregas

3. the fact you list scoring in a penalty shootout as a major achievement says a lot - the kid has been unlucky with injuries but he hasnt been important to our success like carrick/scholes/giggs/fletcher - he has put in sporadic good performances in an excellent side - he's been very average at times

I actually like the player and would love to see him make it but I am yet to see the talent you talk about on a consistent basis (by consistent I mean for more than a few games in a row)
 
Anderson needs a lot of luck with injuries, needs to change his lifestyle and focus more on football to ever improve as footballer. Xavi, Iniesta have improved year on year due to their focus and professional approach to become world class players. Anderson's talent alone is not sufficient.
 
Sultan said:
Anderson needs a lot of luck with injuries, needs to change his lifestyle and focus more on football to ever improve as footballer. Xavi, Iniesta have improved year on year due to their focus and professional approach to become world class players. Anderson's talent alone is not sufficient.
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That's an excellent point. However, IMO the talent is undoubtedly there. Anderson, fully fit and playing well is as good as, if not better, than anyone we've been linked with this season.

If he stays injury free and puts in the hard work needed, I see no reason not give him more time. At the risk perpetuating a stereotype, I find that Brazilian players in particular take longer to mature mentally and I think this is the case with Anderson.
 
It would only make sense to sell him if we're adamant on buying a direct replacement for him e.g. Modric. If no one is coming in for him, even for £17m, I'd rather we kept him.
 
buckooo1978 said:
1. he was good in his first season - its not revisionism - its just that this past season he was a senior midfielder in a partnership with cleverley and added some goals/assists to his game
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It is total revisionism to claim last season was the first time he showed his quality. That is not even debatable.

buckooo1978 said:
2. anderson at best has given us sporadic games - sorry to break it to you but he doesnt really shit on fabregas
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No need to be sorry. I've never compared him to Fabregas.... :smirk:
 
Sultan said:
Anderson needs a lot of luck with injuries, needs to change his lifestyle and focus more on football to ever improve as footballer. Xavi, Iniesta have improved year on year due to their focus and professional approach to become world class players. Anderson's talent alone is not sufficient.
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Truth be told his problem is injuries. Not focus. Without consistent runs of fitness you can't progress.
 
As some posters point out - anderson is not an attacking midfielder. I wonder if his best position is on the wing because he tend to play better going forward with the ball at his feet with a bit of win or lose mentality, something that's not fitting in the central midfield. I also remember some bullshit him saying left fullback is his prefered position. Could be some truth in that if you consider how strong he is and that he likes winning the ball and start running down the field...
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
Truth be told his problem is injuries. Not focus. Without consistent runs of fitness you can't progress.
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True about the injuries.
Do you not think that his party lifestyle isn't helping though?

I mean if he built his body into a tank like say how Ronaldo has grown from a skinny kid to a muscle machine, stopped eating the pies and drinks and less partying, maybe it would help his fitness and he'd have maybe been able to play a bit more despite the injuries?
 
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