Amy Winehouse has passed away
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Aretha Franklin had a great heavy metal voice....
It's heavy metal!
Don't you start going thick on me as well!
It's fecking simple R&B.
Post-rock for cocks.
(Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay" is a song co-written by soul singer Otis Redding and guitarist Steve Cropper. It was first recorded by Otis Redding in 1967, just days before his death. It was released posthumously on Stax Records' Volt label in 1968,[2] becoming the first posthumous number-one single in U.S. chart history.
But if you're being pedantic, not that you would be pedantic, Weaste, you could describe Ottis and that song as deep soul or southern soul.
It's R&B, there is no polyphony with the vocals. You can be as anal as you like about this, but soul is the fusion of gospel (choir music where vocals dominate) with R&B. That's fact. Sitting on the dock of the bay is not soul at all.
Sam Cooke was the proto-soul singer, his stuff got taken up by Motown, Stax and Atlantic to produce 60s soul which in my view came to an end with Stevie Wonder's 'Talking Book' c1972 which brought the genre into mainstream rock/pop.
I'm not quite sure what you are saying. Soul is the fusion of R&B with the vocal tradition of gospel - vocal dominant and polyphonic in the vocals. That's what it is. I've been listening to this shit since I was born.
No not really, R&B was just a term to describe black music.
Sam Cooke was a God amongst men.
What was the blues then? R&B is different to the blues, soul is then the the cut of the lead guitar and a fusion with gospel to create a polyphonic vocal dominated genre. Sitting on the dock of the bay is not soul. A single black man singing doesn't make it R&B either. It's as daft as saying that Louis Armstrong was R&B because he was black. He was black, but he certainly never played/performed R&B.
Jerry Wexler of Billboard magazine coined the term "rhythm and blues" in 1948 as a musical marketing term in the United States.[4] It replaced the term "race music", which originally came from within the black community, but was deemed offensive in the postwar world.[5][6] The term "rhythm and blues" was used by Billboard in its chart listings from June 1949 until August 1969, when its "Hot Rhythm & Blues Singles" chart was renamed as "Best Selling Soul Singles".[7]
Writer/producer Robert Palmer defined rhythm & blues as "a catchall term referring to any music that was made by and for black Americans".[8]
The divvy can say what he likes, and he is a divvy. The majority of Rap is R&B is it? Total bullshit. Same sort of shit as Mockney thinking that Elgar was a classical composer. Everything that uses a full orchestra without vocals is a symphony is it? Total bullshit!
I've been listening to this shit since before you were born.
Right an you get people telling me that Ian Brown and Liam Gallagher can sing, and I doubt that you have unless you're black. Unless you were like her (my mother) and liked a bit of black so to speak.
Me and Mrs Jones, Mockney, it's my fav track off the album. I love the intro - 'What kind of feckery is this? You made me miss the Slick Rick gig'.
I always really enjoyed Tears dry on their own, the Ain't No Mountain sample worked so perfectly. But then again, both of her albums were fairly brilliant.
easy, Adzz. We should do our own album one day. I reckon it'd be dark and full of top stuff like incest and bestiality.
Like an early DMX album, but more incesty.
And less dog barks.
Guess it depends if it's recording outside, or in a Dogs home. Or if DMX is anywhere near the vicinity.
How do tears dry on their own? It's an oxymoron. Like "AdZ is sitting with all his friends".
Yeah. The lyrics are a huge part of that album, which is relatively rare with a lot of commercially successful albums...Even Hip Hop ones.
Still He Can Only Hold Her for me though...
An ex of mine went to her yard yesterday...She came over from Italy for a couple of days and wanted me to take her but I lost my phone on Friday and she couldn't reach me, which is probably a good thing tbh...Bit of an odd thing to do...Especially as she seems to have gone to lay a stick of celery.
For those mentioning Sam Cooke - it's essential you listen to "Sam Cooke Live at the Harlem Square Club '63" (may have got the year wrong because it's off the top of my head) but he was better than Mr Redding IMHO.
I think he wrote more of his output than Redding for a start.
I was going on vocals really, which are of course subjective, but for me Cooke had a naivety in his voice which really added to the sense of emotion. Redding was almost too perfect.
I don't like naive voices. I like my voices to sound knowing, with a hint of condescending confusion.
Ah, a Leonard Cohen fan.
So, Amy Winehouse is dead eh?
So she is in the 27 club with Kurt cobain, Jimi hendrix, Jim Morrison...
was she any good?
So she is in the 27 club with Kurt cobain, Jimi hendrix, Jim Morrison...
was she any good?
I think this "27 club" business is very silly. Just a coincidence that a few musicians happened to die at a certain age.
So when is her new album out?
I highly doubt anyone takes it serious.
There's bound to be somebody.
It's a particularly important age 27-29, physically and emotionally development wise. There's nothing spooky about it. Though I see she's been upgraded into the "group proper" on Wiki.