Amorim: «We are maybe the worst team in Man United history»

United fans should be careful about overusing the “he hasn’t got the players for his system” line. It covers up the players persistent shortcomings.

This group together are CONSISTENT FAILURES regardless of the system. Some individuals in this squad may thrive in other systems (Mct) but the combination of their strengths and weaknesses has produced multiple failed seasons.

Dont run enough.
Aren’t technical enough.
Aren’t clinical enough.
Don’t score enough.
Concede to many.

My only regrets for this season are the lack of youth team involvements. Hopefully when we’ve cleared the relegation threat, we test more young players.
 
Posh Red said:
Did you watch and hear the context of the question and answer? And do you really believe a coach with his background and experience is ‘a fecking moron’?
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I don’t know what your fecking problem is in focusing on a specific point. I’ve already answered your question. Yes and the response was moronic. If he truly believes that then he is a moron. Because I fail to see how that benefits the team. Simple as. If he’s using as a strategy then we will see.
 
TheGame said:
I don’t know what your fecking problem is in focusing on a specific point. I’ve already answered your question. Yes and the response was moronic. If he truly believes that then he is a moron. Because I fail to see how that benefits the team. Simple as. If he’s using as a strategy then we will see.
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I just thought it was quite a crazy thing to say about Amorim.
 
rio's upper lip said:
Surely worth it’s own thread? Are the wheels coming off, or is it part of the long game?

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6073311/2025/01/19/manchester-united-ruben-amorim-worst-team/
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But keeps using the same team over and over again.

How about something wild and crazy!? Try using some of the youngsters with loads of optimism and spirit. I’m not saying “play the entire u18’s - but some of the offensive guys on The bench… can’t be worse than the pile of s*** that’s playing now.

Newest (good) example is Collyer who is actually fighting and doing pretty decent. Why couldn’t Scanlon, Obi Martin, Biancheri or Igbranimov do so as well?? Again, I’m finding it hard to believe it could be worse…

And board, fecking get Amorim a couple of wing backs ffs!
 
CallyRed said:
Ole would have said the boys were fantastic and give em all hugs
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Ole had us in 2nd and was unlucky to lose a Euro final on pens. He shouldn't be remembered as the absolute chump, that some seem to.

We're 12th currently , and finished 8th last season!
 
dogwithabone said:
It seems the media are and I think it will be the quote that dominates the United talk for a few days.
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I remember hearing about his candid honesty before he arrived, and he hasn’t disappointed in that respect. It’s refreshing in one sense, but the headlines will be brutal.
 
I have the impression there are some simply upset at him for criticising the players, the same ones which they tend to defend with dogmatic devotion regardless of who is in charge. We've had people asking questions like, "And there's no manager that could make this squad beat Brighton?" Similar, or rather precisely the same questions have been posed under the tenure of pretty much all our managers (post Fergie), with the answers being provided unequivocally by the results themselves. And yet people seem to consistently ignore all the evidence they need staring them in the face and continue the rhetorical posturing ad nauseaum.
 
TwoSheds said:
Shouldn't Amorim be dipping into the reserves to look for more options at some point if he doesn't like what he sees? By all means get him one or two players in Jan but the whole squad feels short and we're trying to shift some of the old ones out too.
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It’s got the stage where you wonder how on earth he can coach this group of players to the end of the season without doing something like that. It’s only mid January.

Who is there though, the under 18s don’t seem to be ready physically and there isn’t anyone obvious in the reserves. It would be mad to go the whole season without trying Amass. I really think we have to get a left footed left back in, put Dalot on the right and Maz at right centre back. The three pure centre backs thing isn’t working.

Maybe Dan Gore can be given a go? Fairly creative and won’t lack for effort. Whatever it is, the team has to get another attacker in the 11. Even with a better striker, where is the creativity….im just ranting now.
 
#07 said:
When Rangnick said stuff like this people said he was getting his excuses in...
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Rangnick was a temp. Amorim is permanent manager with huge reputation and support of fans.

He is just saying what all of us already know. It would be weird if he was trying to hide the truth
 
Maybe he's trying to fire up the players? They won't respond though. More likely they'll sulk.
 
NewGlory said:
Rangnick was a temp. Amorim is permanent manager with huge reputation and support of fans.

He is just saying what all of us already know. It would be weird if he was trying to hide the truth
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He doesn't need to say that we are playing like the worst team in history though. He's just put even more focus on us from the media sharks than he needed to.
 
Zlatan 7 said:
Turns my stomach that we had a team that finished second twice with Ole and got to a Europa final, that most were not happy with and wanted more (rightly) then we gut the squad, spend millions and end up with a team below mid table.
ETH and whoever else were responsibly for our signings have ruined us
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Could be argued that the underdog mentality developed under Jose and ole and was made worse under EtH and now we have a manager who wants to change that but cant.

It really is a sad state we’re in.
 
Ralf was right and Amorim is spot on. This team stinks to the high heavens. There has been zero team building at this club for years. Give Amorim the time he needs and back him up.
 
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Irwin99 said:
Could be argued that the underdog mentality developed under Jose and ole and was made worse under EtH and now we have a manager who wants to change that but cant.

It really is a sad state we’re in.
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Didn't some of Ole tenure occur doing covid and with either no crowds or very small crowds. It does lessen the pressure. Yes he got us to a EL final and we should have won it.
 
CallyRed said:
Just needs to put Diallo at RWB
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Diallo played RWB against Southampton and Utd were worse than today for 80mins. It may be part of the solution but it’s only the tip of the iceberg .
We need to create more chances & most importantly have players that can consistently convert them.
 
Dan_F said:
It’s got the stage where you wonder how on earth he can coach this group of players to the end of the season without doing something like that. It’s only mid January.

Who is there though, the under 18s don’t seem to be ready physically and there isn’t anyone obvious in the reserves. It would be mad to go the whole season without trying Amass. I really think we have to get a left footed left back in, put Dalot on the right and Maz at right centre back. The three pure centre backs thing isn’t working.

Maybe Dan Gore can be given a go? Fairly creative and won’t lack for effort. Whatever it is, the team has to get another attacker in the 11. Even with a better striker, where is the creativity….im just ranting now.
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Yeah I like Gore but tbh it's the forwards and wing backs where we need to try something really. Scanlon or Biancheri worth a go maybe if not Amass?
 
Given we are hamstrung by PSR, is it time to blood some of the youth? Rashford, Mainoo etc came in as teenagers so why not give Obi-Martin a shot up front for example?
 
arthurka said:
Ralf was right and Amorim it's spot on. This team stinks to high heaven. There has been zero team building at this club for years. Give Amorim the time he needs and back him up.
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It was mentioned above by @FreakyJim that some might sulk, well that will make his cull even easier. If you chose to sulk you are not the sort of player for Manchester United. He will look at the ones who knuckle down and work even harder.
 
Mibabalou said:
I posted this when we were down to Southampton -

Team is awful. There is no light at the end of the tunnel at this point, maybe we can get lucky draw in Europa. At this point top half finish would be a miracle. Were 2.5 seasons from legit chance of CL football. I think this is the lowest point I can remember as a supporter for 20 years.
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I was 14 when we got relegated, but the team, well it might be false memory, but I cant remember we being as poor as this. At least there was excitement.
 
I know why he's saying this but it's just not true. We look shit because we only have 1 wide CB when we need at least 3, 0 suitable wing-backs when once again we need at least 3, no physical midfielder, no expansive midfield passer, no pace and power in the #10 positions, and two project strikers up front who are both crying out for patience and coaching in order for their development not to deteriorate. And you can add a collective weak mentality to that as well.

The players also aren't completely familiar with the pressing system yet and the pressing system hasn't been efficient either in many games, including today...which is Amorim's responsibility...although it has been really good and organised in other games, so let's say it's inconsistent as of now.

However, in isolation, we have good and talented players in almost every position.


CallyRed said:
Ole would have said the boys were fantastic and give em all hugs
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Ole would have this squad at least on 40 points after 22 games
 
Church o Choccy said:
I would encourage all United fans to go back and re-watch the game at West Ham at the end of October. We lost, it was Ten Hag's last match in charge. We weren't great but it was actually a very decent performance and we were unlucky to lose. Our chance creation was really good, our finishing was poor, and we controlled large sections of the game both in and out of possession.

It wasn't good enough and Ten Hag hadn't been getting results for more than a year so he was sacked fair enough. But we weren't "the worst team in the history of Manchester United" when he left. We're there now because of how much worse we've got since then.

There are good arguments for the fact that this is just the pain we have to go through to become an Amorim team and for people who think like that, I think they have a totally reasonable case. I also really hope they're right. But on the basis that all I'm seeing is a team regressing fast (aside from a few decent, but often quite desperate performances against the big boys) I can't really think that's the case.

If Ten Hag had stayed I think his United team finishes 6th-8th and maybe wins the Europa League. Clearly not good enough for where United want to be. But 3 months later his successor has us looking over our shoulder at the relegation spots and using "worst in history" language. Fair enough, but we weren't the worst in history when you arrived, Ruben. You've made us that.
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Difference is, this is TH team and a fortune was spent for this shitshow. Amorim hasnt been supplied with any players that fit his style. Its like knocking in a nail with a spanner. It works sometimes, but nowhere near the way it should.
 
DomesticTadpole said:
Just heard Alan Pardew on Talksport, who rates Amorin very highly, his co-contributor asked him if he thought the comment was directed at the owners. He said when he heard it again he thought it was a very calculated comment, not overly emotional and was directed to the fans, so we know where we are with the squad. He needs backing if not January, in the summer or we will just go round and round in circles and go absolutely nowhere.
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I’m agreeing with Pardew, my God times are hard.
 
NewGlory said:
Rangnick was a temp. Amorim is permanent manager with huge reputation and support of fans.

He is just saying what all of us already know. It would be weird if he was trying to hide the truth
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I don’t know. There was a huge amount of initial enthusiasm for Rangnick but that died out when the football was so underwhelming for so long – and that was much better than this. I think people grossly underestimate what months of bad results and poor performances will do for any manager. Playing like this until the summer will absolutely kill any longer term plans. Nobody will believe the prototype is a blueprint for future success with these outcomes.

I was taken aback by how much booing there was at the end today and how little defiant chanting there was. ETH was getting a lot more vocal support in his final few matches than Amorim got today. These last two matches I think have really knocked people’s optimism.
 
Eric_the_Red99 said:
The amount of hyperbole in this thread is embarrassing. We’ve now got to the stage where we apparently have the worst squad ever assembled in any sport ever in the history of humanity ever. Anyone want to go further than that?
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I think it’s hard to argue that we have the worst football squad within the context of the amount of money we have spent
 
McLvnsMuse said:
United fans should be careful about overusing the “he hasn’t got the players for his system” line. It covers up the players persistent shortcomings.

This group together are CONSISTENT FAILURES regardless of the system. Some individuals in this squad may thrive in other systems (Mct) but the combination of their strengths and weaknesses has produced multiple failed seasons.

Dont run enough.
Aren’t technical enough.
Aren’t clinical enough.
Don’t score enough.
Concede to many.

My only regrets for this season are the lack of youth team involvements. Hopefully when we’ve cleared the relegation threat, we test more young players.
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This is 100% it.

We need to stop giving lazy/ not capable players an excuse. They are pros why can’t they play a system? The answer is that they can. We also got annoyed with ETH for not sticking to his principals and trying to suit the players.

I’m personally glad that Amorim has called out the players and put them exactly where they belong. I’m 41 and started following in the early 90s, I’m sure we aren’t the worst team in UTD history but we certainly are the worst in our PL era.
 
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