I thought that's what you were getting at, the partner thing, not as much the stamina to lead alone, but that's a fair point.
All-Time Fantasy Draft - EDogen v Brwned
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That's a brilliant post Fortitude. Very interesting reading
Unfortunately you're the one tasked with doing it Fort, the higher-ups have all agreed on it! You've got the deciding vote.
Of course we all acknowledged Romario was extremely lazy but in fairness I'd not even considered the fact he needed a Stoichkov or Bebeto there to do the rest of the strikers' work for him, and indeed Cruyff would not appreciate his total disinterest in the build-up.
Of course we all acknowledged Romario was extremely lazy but in fairness I'd not even considered the fact he needed a Stoichkov or Bebeto there to do the rest of the strikers' work for him, and indeed Cruyff would not appreciate his total disinterest in the build-up.
This draft game is great, amazing stuff, really. I learned so much about the history of the game and read lots of amazing stories. Thanks to everyone who's contributing.
The reason I voted for Brwned was his smart setup. Every position chosen carefully and well explained, a few of my all time favorites in the team as well, played to their strength. Great stuff. I hope you guys find a equally entertaining way to decide what team is going to the next round, no doubt that both deserve to go through.
The reason I voted for Brwned was his smart setup. Every position chosen carefully and well explained, a few of my all time favorites in the team as well, played to their strength. Great stuff. I hope you guys find a equally entertaining way to decide what team is going to the next round, no doubt that both deserve to go through.
OMG! Brwned wins!
Congrats Brwned. 
Lovely stuff, gents. I've got Brwned down for at least four of those being bagged (I have never seen Spencer, so can't say what he's like at pens).
Whilst I'd expect at least four of EDogen's to score as well.
Tough call, though I'm a fan of Southall in nets so may be swayed that direction.
Even though I agree Romario was a lazy player and probably never lived up to his potential, but I felt that was a bit too harsh on him, since he has played in a system like this (in Barcelona 1994-1995), scoring 30 goals in 33 league games..
Every player has his pros and cons, and I feel if we highlight every con for every player we'll never find the perfect player really, but overall I still thought that was a bit too harsh on a player who has scored ~1000 goals in his career, something very few players were able to do.
I think Edogen may have the edge in penalties.
I'm not convinced on Cruyff as #1, if he had that much bottle he'd be slotting away the peno in '74 himself! If it helps I'd be more than comfortable with slotting Falcao in there instead of Spencer, I actually had a quick check myself to see if he took part in any penalty shootouts in the Copa Libertadores but alas no. I just assume a goalscorer of that pedigree could slot it away from the spot. Are there many top-class poachers that were a bit rubbish from the spot? I'm sure there were a few.
What way was this settled?
What?
Congrats Brwned.
And what?
And no this has not been settled yet as far as I know?
Romario's missin
Recently, maybe. But he was terrible with penalty kicks early on and I remember him missing a crucial penalty back in the 90s after which Fergie totally stopped giving him penalties. He confessed the same in his documentary, that he hated taking penalties and was always thankful that he didn't get to take them.
Balu's vote must hav sneaked in after it ended
No if you count them, it is 25 with Balu.
But how are we going to decide this?
Southampton mid 90s in FA Cup. That's the only 1 i remember him missing. Didn't take one again til 2008 CL final
That's the one I think. He has been good in the last few years, and obviously he scored the winner in Moscow and has taken a few since then and done well. But given a choice I don't think he should be put in the 5 first names, like wasn't in the 5 at Moscow!
Which season was it he scored against Wigan in the last game of the season? Wasn't that 07/08 as well? He missed one and scored two in the 90s from what I can remember of just watching those season reviews.
That said the one thing I'd not considered is his left-footedness. Southall knows exactly where he's going before he's even stepped up. Damn, threw that one away.
That said the one thing I'd not considered is his left-footedness. Southall knows exactly where he's going before he's even stepped up. Damn, threw that one away.
Rooney? Not sure if he fits what you meant by 'top class poacher' though.
One miss doesn't make you 'terrible' IMO.
That wasn't a penalty. Ronaldo scored the first with the penalty and Giggsy scored the second from open play.
In any case I don't think he is an ideal penalty taker and I am sure you can find someone better in your team and promote him to the first 5.
Yes.
What a year that was!EDIT: wasn't a penalty though if that's what you're saying..
By the way Giggs missed a penalty too against Chelsea in the Community Shield in 2009.
The poll doesn't lie.
I was sure he took a crucial title-winning penalty!
Sir Alex on Giggsy this season, back in November:
"I think Giggs is probably the best penalty-taker. I can't ever remember him missing since he had one saved against Southampton in the FA Cup in 1992"
Sir Alex on Giggsy this season, back in November:
"I think Giggs is probably the best penalty-taker. I can't ever remember him missing since he had one saved against Southampton in the FA Cup in 1992"
Well Sir Alex, that's because you never assigned him to take one for a decade or so.I'm confused as to how Brwned suddenly has 26 votes. Is there not an explanation?!
Giggs has a terrific penalty shoot-out record. He missed one as a youngster in the cup when he was juggling the ball up to the spot, but he wasn't a regular taker and didn't need to be (Cantona, Irwin, RvN, Ronaldo). In recent years he's taken some really high pressure kicks and scored them all.
Giggs has a terrific penalty shoot-out record. He missed one as a youngster in the cup when he was juggling the ball up to the spot, but he wasn't a regular taker and didn't need to be (Cantona, Irwin, RvN, Ronaldo). In recent years he's taken some really high pressure kicks and scored them all.
No, I voted hours before I wrote that post, back when Brwned was 4 votes behind. No idea, what happened.
Dr Dwayne is an admin. Admin's can edit polls. Dwayne edited his expert opinion into the poll. Simple!
I'll see if I can dig out the documentary from my hard drive and upload the clip where he says he never had confidence in taking penalties and Sir Alex didn't have any confidence in him. Of course that was shot a few years back before he started taking penalties again.
The explanation is that as an admin I can vote at anytime, even after a poll has closed.
Sorry for the confusion.
He took two at home to Spurs, late in the 09/10 season. We were drawing or losing and he needed to net both to get 3 points and keep the race on. He did but we lost the title.
The one in Moscow and he took one too in the League cup final against Tottenham in 2009 (and scored).
So Brwned got a fellow admin to get him the victory?!
So Brwned got a fellow admin to get him the victory?!
Oh no, Brwned is not an admin.
I could only dream of having that kind of power
How Brwned squeezed through this I'll never know. Looked dead and buried at one point.