Should just be 3 options I think. Otherwise it could go on for ages.
In any case, this HAS to be decided by penalties.
All-Time Fantasy Draft - EDogen v Brwned
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Should just be 3 options I think. Otherwise it could go on for ages.
In any case, this HAS to be decided by penalties.
Well, Rooney, Sergio Ramos and Beckham aren't shooting, so no need to take that into consideration I guess..I see now your idea, you wanna do them all at once. My idea was for them to take the PKs one by one (two PMs for the first kick, the mod announces the result, then they take the next one... and so on.) to allow them the chance to try and figure each other out, so it won't be totally luck in the end..
Well everyone seems to like the penalty idea, I'm starting to like the thought just for the entertainment. Fast turns from me I know.
I just do not like the one person decider.
I just do not like the one person decider.
That's a nice one, Danny. Like if you instructed your player to shoot left, and missed. Will you go for the same direction again or change it? It certainly adds a lore more entertainment.
Exactly.
I do reckon you's should ask Peterstorey. He's seen a lot of football by the sounds of it over the years, and would be as fair as you can get.
Neither of you deserve to go out on basically the toss of the coin!
Neither of you deserve to go out on basically the toss of the coin!
If we go with Peterstorey, I think we both should get a last chance to motivate our team.
Penalty klicks with 6 options sounds like a fair tie-breaker.
Go for it. I'm off now, good luck Brwned and EDogen!!!!
Go for it. I'm off now, good luck Brwned and EDogen!!!!
Chief has spoken. C'mon lads, test your fate.
Chief has spoken. C'mon lads, test your fate.
They just don't have the balls to do it.
We don't have the cojones I'm afraid, we've agreed on this:
EDogen said:
I can do it, let us hear what Brwned says.
Good timing! But Peterstorey it is then.
Oh well. Let's hope there is another draw and we get to that once. Sounds fun.
Just assign five takers and have us re-vote again. And you should really fix a rule for future draws.
So by what time should we have our last motivation of our teams ready?
The penalty thing is a bit random. I'd say that since this one is an All Time Draft, we should take much consideration on players longetivity.
So why not this way: we use their current starting XI, and count the Total Games they have played in their career. Which team has the most, win. We're assuming all are top players, so their games have the same weight.
So why not this way: we use their current starting XI, and count the Total Games they have played in their career. Which team has the most, win. We're assuming all are top players, so their games have the same weight.
We have already agreed on Peterstorey to make the call. We will post our final motivations before he does that.
That's boring though. You're both doing another writeup for the sole purpose of winning over peterstorey? I have no interest in that.
WE WANT PENALTIES!
I'm against this. I agree, it's really boring, just not boring enough..
Let's go with Peterstorey's pick.
Another write ups a bit of a waste of time tbh, but whatever you's reckon. I dont even think he'll read it as he'll know all the players inside out anyway, and you're op's are both good.
I am ready with my write up, just made minor changes in it. I will post it when Brwned is ready.
I don't see how bringing pete into this is any more random than the penalties.
Fortitude was agreed upon, but declined.
The next step, one we used before and I think has more merit than picking someone at random, is any manager who hasn't voted. That would be Gio. He probably didn't want to decide the game as it may have affected ours. I think if both managers agree not to vote in our game that's the way forward.
Or else penos.
Fortitude was agreed upon, but declined.
The next step, one we used before and I think has more merit than picking someone at random, is any manager who hasn't voted. That would be Gio. He probably didn't want to decide the game as it may have affected ours. I think if both managers agree not to vote in our game that's the way forward.
Or else penos.
To be honest I hadn't really been online during the previous 24 hours so hadn't had a chance to form an opinion. Then I missed the full-time whistle, but let's not over-egg it - agree an approach and get it done.
- He's put 3 in the middle just to deal with Keane, Falcão and Di Stéfano (naturally) leaving Schnellinger and Burgnich to deal with Matthews and Giggs all on their own - there's bound to be chances there
- Alberto Spencer aka La Cabeza Mágica is the all-time top scorer of the Libertadores, winner of 7 Uruguayan league titles, 3 Copa Libertadores and 2 Intercontinental cups (up against Eusébio's Benfica in '61 and Gento/Amancio's Madrid in '66) and scorer of 445 goals in 643 games. He's going to get goals given the excellent supply from the wings. In the IFFHS Century rankings, Spencer is named 20th* best player from South America while Romario is quite a few places behind - no question Romario was a top class striker so it speaks volumes of Spencer's quality.
- Romario here is having to do all of the striker's work on his own - clearly not something he'd relish given his questionable work ethic. Cruyff can get up and support him but then you're limiting Cruyff to one area of the pitch and shackling him like that isn't going to bring the best out of him.
- It'll also leave Celtic's greatest right back Danny McGrain ("best in Europe for a couple of years in the late 70s") to run free and he'll gladly take the opportunity to team up with Stanley Matthews to tear Schnelligner a new one. Figo's too busy looking after Brehme to do anything meaningful and his midfield three are finding no space up against Di Stéfano, Keane and Falcão given they're all tireless runners with two of the fiercest competitors in the history of the game.
- This leaves Romario generally isolated and with little support there's no real way of supplying him with the kind of quality service he lived off, so Germano and Trésor are finding it relatively easy to take care of the lazy, temperamental poacher.
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Code:
1."Pelé" (Brazil) 220 (Edson Arantes do Nascimento)
2.Diego Armando Maradona (Argentina) 193
3.Alfredo di Stéfano (Argentina) 161
4.Garrincha (Brazil) 142 (Manoel dos Santos Garrincha)
5.José Manuel Moreno (Argentina) 82
6.Juan Alberto Schiaffino(Uruguay) 52
7."Zico" (Brazil) 51 (Arthur Antunes Coimbra)
8.Arsenio Pastor Erico (Paraguay) 42
Elías Ricardo Figueroa (Chile) 42
10.Thomas Soãres "Zizinho"(Brazil) 40
11.Luis Alberto Cubilla (Uruguay) 25
12.Adolfo Pedernera (Argentina) 24
13.Arthur Friedenreich (Brazil) 21
"Tostão" (Brazil) 21 (Eduardo Gonçalves de Andrade)
Obdulio Jacinto Varela (Uruguay) 21
16.Enrique Omar Sivori (Argentina) 19
17.Teófilo Cubillas (Peru) 17
Valdir Pereira Didi (Brazil) 17
Willington Ortiz (Colombia) 17
20.José Leandro Andrade (Uruguay) 16
Héctor Scarone (Uruguay) 16
Alberto Spencer (Ecuador) 16
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23.Mario Alberto Kempes (Argentina) 15
24.Enzo Francescoli (Uruguay) 13
Leônidas da Silva (Brazil) 13
26.Angel Amadeo Labruna (Argentina) 12
José Nasazzi (Uruguay) 12
Nílton dos Santos (Brazil) 12
Ronaldo (Brazil) 12 (Ronaldo Luís Nazário de Lima)
30.Romário de Souza Faria (Brazil) 11I am playing my 4-3-3 formation.
• In goal I have Neville Southall not much to say about that.
• My central defence is Moore and Desailly who will form a great partnership, complementing each other well. Moore with his phenomenal reading of the game together with Desailly with his physical presence. With the help of my midfield three they will have a good chance to keep Spencer and Di Stefano under control.
• My full backs are both two very good defensive defenders who will have main focus on defending, this since I have two attacking wingers in Cruyff and Figo. Schnellinger will have the licence to go forward when the time is right since Cruyff will roam around throughout the pitch, but Burgnich will mainly have a defensive duty since that was his greatest aspect of his game and the fact that he is playing behind Figo.
• My central midfielders are Redondo, Essien and Guardiola, they will dictate the play from deep and make sure that their presence in the middle of the park will give my team an advantage. They are tactically perfect players who will give Falcao and Keane a real match in the middle. Redondo has shown that he can boss a midfield against Roy Keane before. Essien brings a monster engine to my side in both defence and attack. Guardiola will thrive in a midfield three as a pivote like he did for the Barcelona dream team.
• I mentioned my wingers, Cruyff and Figo. Two attacking wingers who will have different roles. Figo will act as a real right winger while Cruyff has a free role to run the game starting out on the left. But he will roam around finding spaces, he will go deep getting the ball, he will cut inside and leave the left side for Schnellinger to work on and we all know how much creativity Cruyff brings into the team.
• And I have saved my goal scoring machine until last, Redondo, Essien, Guardiola, Cruyff and Figo. There is just so much creativity in there so Romario will get his chances and he will score from those chances.
Defence: A solid back four with Southall as my anchor. They will have a great shield from Redondo, Essien and Guardiola in front of them. Figo and Cruyff both had physique to help out in defence. Essien with a special assignment to help out Burgnich with Giggs since Burgnich will need that help.
Attack: Guardiola and Redondo have a passing range and vision that not many other central midfielders can offer, they will pick out the front three with pinpoint passes. Essien at his peak when given license to go forward is a threat with his shooting and powerful runs. It is easy to forget that he was arguably the best box-to-box midfielder in the world just a few years back. My wingers are offering my team the width with their wing-play together with mainly Schnellinger who will get forward when Cruyff goes inside the pitch. Romario with his great ability to get off his marker will get chances to finish off. As I see it I have threats from all corners of the pitch with my team.
Finally I believe in my team since:
• I feel I can match up the midfield battle with my three central midfielders.
• I hold my central defence as stronger with Moore superior to Germano.
• I hold Romario as superior to Spencer.
• Cruyff has more freedom than Di Stefano who will need to help Keane and Falcao more than Cruyff has to help my midfield.
• Talking about the wings (both full backs and wingers) there is not much between the sides.
..and good luck, two good teams out there!
• In goal I have Neville Southall not much to say about that.
• My central defence is Moore and Desailly who will form a great partnership, complementing each other well. Moore with his phenomenal reading of the game together with Desailly with his physical presence. With the help of my midfield three they will have a good chance to keep Spencer and Di Stefano under control.
• My full backs are both two very good defensive defenders who will have main focus on defending, this since I have two attacking wingers in Cruyff and Figo. Schnellinger will have the licence to go forward when the time is right since Cruyff will roam around throughout the pitch, but Burgnich will mainly have a defensive duty since that was his greatest aspect of his game and the fact that he is playing behind Figo.
• My central midfielders are Redondo, Essien and Guardiola, they will dictate the play from deep and make sure that their presence in the middle of the park will give my team an advantage. They are tactically perfect players who will give Falcao and Keane a real match in the middle. Redondo has shown that he can boss a midfield against Roy Keane before. Essien brings a monster engine to my side in both defence and attack. Guardiola will thrive in a midfield three as a pivote like he did for the Barcelona dream team.
• I mentioned my wingers, Cruyff and Figo. Two attacking wingers who will have different roles. Figo will act as a real right winger while Cruyff has a free role to run the game starting out on the left. But he will roam around finding spaces, he will go deep getting the ball, he will cut inside and leave the left side for Schnellinger to work on and we all know how much creativity Cruyff brings into the team.
• And I have saved my goal scoring machine until last, Redondo, Essien, Guardiola, Cruyff and Figo. There is just so much creativity in there so Romario will get his chances and he will score from those chances.
Defence: A solid back four with Southall as my anchor. They will have a great shield from Redondo, Essien and Guardiola in front of them. Figo and Cruyff both had physique to help out in defence. Essien with a special assignment to help out Burgnich with Giggs since Burgnich will need that help.
Attack: Guardiola and Redondo have a passing range and vision that not many other central midfielders can offer, they will pick out the front three with pinpoint passes. Essien at his peak when given license to go forward is a threat with his shooting and powerful runs. It is easy to forget that he was arguably the best box-to-box midfielder in the world just a few years back. My wingers are offering my team the width with their wing-play together with mainly Schnellinger who will get forward when Cruyff goes inside the pitch. Romario with his great ability to get off his marker will get chances to finish off. As I see it I have threats from all corners of the pitch with my team.
Finally I believe in my team since:
• I feel I can match up the midfield battle with my three central midfielders.
• I hold my central defence as stronger with Moore superior to Germano.
• I hold Romario as superior to Spencer.
• Cruyff has more freedom than Di Stefano who will need to help Keane and Falcao more than Cruyff has to help my midfield.
• Talking about the wings (both full backs and wingers) there is not much between the sides.
..and good luck, two good teams out there!
Could you guys possibly simulate these contests on FM?
Penalties was much more exciting and a possible test of nerve (using the one at a time scenario).
No offence to Pete Storey, he's a knowledgeable enough poster from what I've seen, but I don't get what makes him such a great choice for influencing the outcome. We've all tried to influence, why is his opinion so special?
No offence to Pete Storey, he's a knowledgeable enough poster from what I've seen, but I don't get what makes him such a great choice for influencing the outcome. We've all tried to influence, why is his opinion so special?
I am playing my 4-3-3 formation.
• In goal I have Neville Southall not much to say about that.
• My central defence is Moore and Desailly who will form a great partnership, complementing each other well. Moore with his phenomenal reading of the game together with Desailly with his physical presence. With the help of my midfield three they will have a good chance to keep Spencer and Di Stefano under control.
• My full backs are both two very good defensive defenders who will have main focus on defending, this since I have two attacking wingers in Cruyff and Figo. Schnellinger will have the licence to go forward when the time is right since Cruyff will roam around throughout the pitch, but Burgnich will mainly have a defensive duty since that was his greatest aspect of his game and the fact that he is playing behind Figo.
• My central midfielders are Redondo, Essien and Guardiola, they will dictate the play from deep and make sure that their presence in the middle of the park will give my team an advantage. They are tactically perfect players who will give Falcao and Keane a real match in the middle. Redondo has shown that he can boss a midfield against Roy Keane before. Essien brings a monster engine to my side in both defence and attack. Guardiola will thrive in a midfield three as a pivote like he did for the Barcelona dream team.
• I mentioned my wingers, Cruyff and Figo. Two attacking wingers who will have different roles. Figo will act as a real right winger while Cruyff has a free role to run the game starting out on the left. But he will roam around finding spaces, he will go deep getting the ball, he will cut inside and leave the left side for Schnellinger to work on and we all know how much creativity Cruyff brings into the team.
• And I have saved my goal scoring machine until last, Redondo, Essien, Guardiola, Cruyff and Figo. There is just so much creativity in there so Romario will get his chances and he will score from those chances.
Defence: A solid back four with Southall as my anchor. They will have a great shield from Redondo, Essien and Guardiola in front of them. Figo and Cruyff both had physique to help out in defence. Essien with a special assignment to help out Burgnich with Giggs since Burgnich will need that help.
Attack: Guardiola and Redondo have a passing range and vision that not many other central midfielders can offer, they will pick out the front three with pinpoint passes. Essien at his peak when given license to go forward is a threat with his shooting and powerful runs. It is easy to forget that he was arguably the best box-to-box midfielder in the world just a few years back. My wingers are offering my team the width with their wing-play together with mainly Schnellinger who will get forward when Cruyff goes inside the pitch. Romario with his great ability to get off his marker will get chances to finish off. As I see it I have threats from all corners of the pitch with my team.
Finally I believe in my team since:
• I feel I can match up the midfield battle with my three central midfielders.
• I hold my central defence as stronger with Moore superior to Germano.
• I hold Romario as superior to Spencer.
• Cruyff has more freedom than Di Stefano who will need to help Keane and Falcao more than Cruyff has to help my midfield.
• Talking about the wings (both full backs and wingers) there is not much between the sides.
..and good luck, two good teams out there!
I will really feel sorry for the guy who will be snubbed by Peterstorey after writing all this just for him..
Well I do not know why just Pete, I have not been around here long enough to know who knows his stuff. Was a idea from Brwned I think, I just want a finish to the game and that works for me.
Does Storey even know his role in all this?Was myself i think. Just thought for a deciding vote you'd want an older wise head. First name came in to my head.
Pete does really know his stuff to be fair
I hope he says no.
Or just reads the thread and just moves on without replying.
Good job the first name that came into your head wasn't Scholesy.
These threads are hilarious, like fairplay and all lads for the effort. But they get a bit silly don't they.
I just went off Brwned saying he could see you were online and reading the thread but not voting. You are notorious for dithering until the last minute, that's how you ended up being the casting vote before! In a final...
Since these chaps have put in the effort let's go with their agreed storey option. Mind you, he is offline yet was online through the whole discussion so I fancy him to be laughing his arse off and then declining the honour ala Fortitude
I just went off Brwned saying he could see you were online and reading the thread but not voting. You are notorious for dithering until the last minute, that's how you ended up being the casting vote before! In a final...
Since these chaps have put in the effort let's go with their agreed storey option. Mind you, he is offline yet was online through the whole discussion so I fancy him to be laughing his arse off and then declining the honour ala Fortitude
Seriously, no one asked him before both wrote all that stuff again? Great stuff.