Can't see that happening. No one's going to budge over enough until they're left with no alternative, which most likely wouldn't be until after the 22nd, at the very earliest
All Rossi transfer speculation here please
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Can't see that happening. No one's going to budge over enough until they're left with no alternative, which most likely wouldn't be until after the 22nd, at the very earliest
villareal is having a laugh
Smith is in talks with Newcastle and Boro. Two teams that are offering him first team football. It's pretty obvious he will choose first team football over our bench.
Tevez is in talks with United, with a court case in the works.
He's been roughly two weeks away from fitness for about the last six months now
Expected to be back for the Reading game.
FC United and Chelsea just around the corner...
I think you are certainly one of the very few who will keep Smith over Rossi.
Perhaps we should have traded Rossi to Villarreal, get Torres from Athletico, while Villarreal sent Forlan to Athletico??
Wouldn't that have made a lot more sense?
Wouldn't that have made a lot more sense?
Well, we've got enough to play around with.
I would bet a thousand bucks that Saha would miss atleast 2-3 opening games.
Considering the situation we are in, with the amount of players similar to Rossi, I would
let`s not forget that... event though it breaks most ppls hearts to see him leave, he has never been given a chance in the PL, maybe SAF and Carlos doubted that he was big enough, or strong enough to make it to the next level.
I think that there`s other motives for this too.... Glaziers wanting some money back from our spendings is probably the one, and with all the Smith, Rossi, Gaby rumours flying around - this has really become a warm up for a great price for all of them. With Richardson, these players sold will leave us with not much spent at all..
A couple of things:
I dont know if someone has pointed it out but Rossi is actually 20, not 21
Secondly, I think Fergie understood the basic differences between being a good player, which Rossi obviously is, and being able to fulfil his potential in the english game. Fergie and everyone who has seen Rossi play cannot deny his talent, but at the same time, its difficult to deny he has never been ready for the premiership demandind specificities (what a word!), and the sad or good reality depending on how you look at it, its that at the present time United cannot wait for unfinished articles who you dont know if they'll come succesfully or into another david jones.
I have the feeling Rossi will make it big at villarreal in a couple of seasons, but I doubt even with chances he'd ever make it at United. Like Forlan, like others. United have its particular demands that only certain players can complete and Fergie's record with youngsters is good enough to trust he'll never let go a player who could make it at United.
I dont know if someone has pointed it out but Rossi is actually 20, not 21
Secondly, I think Fergie understood the basic differences between being a good player, which Rossi obviously is, and being able to fulfil his potential in the english game. Fergie and everyone who has seen Rossi play cannot deny his talent, but at the same time, its difficult to deny he has never been ready for the premiership demandind specificities (what a word!), and the sad or good reality depending on how you look at it, its that at the present time United cannot wait for unfinished articles who you dont know if they'll come succesfully or into another david jones.
I have the feeling Rossi will make it big at villarreal in a couple of seasons, but I doubt even with chances he'd ever make it at United. Like Forlan, like others. United have its particular demands that only certain players can complete and Fergie's record with youngsters is good enough to trust he'll never let go a player who could make it at United.
Season 2008/2009?
In an ideal world, I would've liked us to start the season with Rooney and Saha, even if Tevez did sign before the deadline.
What would it take for the fecker to go one, just one season without injury??
What would it take for the fecker to go one, just one season without injury??
Saha is as good as almost anyone when he's fit, it's such a shame he can't stop getting injured. I honestly think he would be recognised as one of the worlds best if he was always fit.
-------------VDS----------
Brown-----Rio---Vidic----Evra
--Carrick-O'Shea-Fletcher
Ronaldo----Rooney---Giggs
Righto. That's the first team for Reading, and possibly the next game or two, excluding anyone who might not currently be available for whatever reason.
Defence - class
Midfield - bit rubbish
forwards - class
If Saha or Hargreaves are available, we can pretty much swamp all over teams, if the need be. Can't see there being any chance of Fergie throwing Nani or Anderson in, judging from what he's been saying.
Ignore me. I'm thinking out loud here
Brown-----Rio---Vidic----Evra
--Carrick-O'Shea-Fletcher
Ronaldo----Rooney---Giggs
Righto. That's the first team for Reading, and possibly the next game or two, excluding anyone who might not currently be available for whatever reason.
Defence - class
Midfield - bit rubbish
forwards - class
If Saha or Hargreaves are available, we can pretty much swamp all over teams, if the need be. Can't see there being any chance of Fergie throwing Nani or Anderson in, judging from what he's been saying.
Ignore me. I'm thinking out loud here
Gutted about Rossi leaving. Can understand Sir Alex though. Rossi wouldn't get as many games as he needs at this stage of his career where he need to develop the most, with Tevez coming in and Saha staying we are covered. I also believe Smith will be sold to Everton.
I genuinly believe we WILL sign another striker before the start of the season now. Please bring us Anelka.
Rooney
Saha
Tevez
Solskjaer
New Striker
Dong
I genuinly believe we WILL sign another striker before the start of the season now. Please bring us Anelka.
Rooney
Saha
Tevez
Solskjaer
New Striker
Dong
I'd be more worried about VDS than where the goals are gonna come from. He's becoming a liability.
have agreed with you on most things...will have to disagree strongly here mate.
I am disapointed that Rossi is gone...disapointed in the lad for not staying and proving he is good enough to be selected...SAF is right not to gurantee a first place to anyone...same goes for that cnut Heinze...and that is also a big reason Ruud went...
trust the manager....he did not win 9 bloody titles making stupid mistakes....
FFS so much for the diatribe of 'watch the reserves and see United's stars of tomorrow'. This is shit!!! Thanks Fergie!!!
Apologies in advance for this long post...read what you will.
As this has basically been my pet project over the summer i have carefully read over all the posts and two stick out for me in particular this one from ferguson. I could have written that almost word for word. i bow to you ferguon:
rossi's sale is independant of smiths. smith will go. you cant stay where you are not wanted..the number of bids we are accepting left and right the writing is on the wall. I think Sir alex feels that we can manage this season with ole, saha,tevez (who will come, undoubtedley- i mean really is he going to stay at west ham?? All 3 parties want the same thing, its bluff and counter bluff to get the best deal...even if it goes to deadline day he'll come) and rooney.
The reason being that saha, tevez and rooney in sir alex's eyes are all capable of playing upfront alone. That means if we are short of options up top we change to a 5 man mid. giggs has played there more and more and anderson has been touted as being able to play a second striker...thats alot of options plus you chuck ole in if there is a crisis. its a calculated gamble from fergie. We get through the season with that then try again for berbatov ( or the like) which would give us the perfect strikeforce. he must be thinking now its better to wait for the right player than sign someone just for numbers sake. He'd prob like to have kept smith or rossi for extra insurance with the numbers but realistically without many injuries it would be an extremely fustrating season for both which ultimately could be detrimental to the club.
What i would like to add is that the reaction to this transfer is unbelievable. Get some sense of perspective.
With regard to rossi i wish him all the best..he's made the right choice in the sense that he hasnt gone to a super club where the same situation may develop...he's gone to a feeder club...and if he does well there he will indeed move for mega bucks. However those who claim that will mean its a wrong decison and it will come back to haunt us based on that are sadly mistaken. He could become a 20million pound player and its still the right decision at this time. ironically he was too good to stick around til he's 24 or 25 and wait for a chance...yet not good enough to ever displace wayne rooney. There was only ever going to be one outcome if he was ambitious, which he is. Look at it from his point of view...whatever was said he was never going to get enough chances.
As this has basically been my pet project over the summer i have carefully read over all the posts and two stick out for me in particular this one from ferguson. I could have written that almost word for word. i bow to you ferguon:
rossi's sale is independant of smiths. smith will go. you cant stay where you are not wanted..the number of bids we are accepting left and right the writing is on the wall. I think Sir alex feels that we can manage this season with ole, saha,tevez (who will come, undoubtedley- i mean really is he going to stay at west ham?? All 3 parties want the same thing, its bluff and counter bluff to get the best deal...even if it goes to deadline day he'll come) and rooney.
The reason being that saha, tevez and rooney in sir alex's eyes are all capable of playing upfront alone. That means if we are short of options up top we change to a 5 man mid. giggs has played there more and more and anderson has been touted as being able to play a second striker...thats alot of options plus you chuck ole in if there is a crisis. its a calculated gamble from fergie. We get through the season with that then try again for berbatov ( or the like) which would give us the perfect strikeforce. he must be thinking now its better to wait for the right player than sign someone just for numbers sake. He'd prob like to have kept smith or rossi for extra insurance with the numbers but realistically without many injuries it would be an extremely fustrating season for both which ultimately could be detrimental to the club.
What i would like to add is that the reaction to this transfer is unbelievable. Get some sense of perspective.
With regard to rossi i wish him all the best..he's made the right choice in the sense that he hasnt gone to a super club where the same situation may develop...he's gone to a feeder club...and if he does well there he will indeed move for mega bucks. However those who claim that will mean its a wrong decison and it will come back to haunt us based on that are sadly mistaken. He could become a 20million pound player and its still the right decision at this time. ironically he was too good to stick around til he's 24 or 25 and wait for a chance...yet not good enough to ever displace wayne rooney. There was only ever going to be one outcome if he was ambitious, which he is. Look at it from his point of view...whatever was said he was never going to get enough chances.
I got my cock out when I heard that
Just saw this quote from fergie about the Tevez situation
Shouldn’t really be selling Rossi if he’s thinking about alteratives to Tevez if the deal does not go through on time. Maybe he can still pull the plug on it, he should have at least been kept till January to show off what he could do, then made a decision, plus I bet his value would have rose with a couple of goals in a united shirt.
Disappointing
Shouldn’t really be selling Rossi if he’s thinking about alteratives to Tevez if the deal does not go through on time. Maybe he can still pull the plug on it, he should have at least been kept till January to show off what he could do, then made a decision, plus I bet his value would have rose with a couple of goals in a united shirt.
Disappointing
Sell Tevez sign Rossi.
Seriously, as far as I'm concerned this fecks up our summer.
Seriously, as far as I'm concerned this fecks up our summer.
get a grip man.
I'm confused. Is Hargreaves not expected to be fit by then? I see no reason why Nani wouldn't play if we need him too. I would expect us to play a 4-2-3-1 in the game as we did in most home games last season and Nani could be one of those.
Shit day.
and while i'm at it, what is wrong with you people? rossi obviously wants footie and fergie can't promise him enough so agreed to let him go.
How much? Surely somewhere around £8M.
Couldn't be more upset about this move.
around 7.
6.7
I know, the thing is we have signed 2 players with great potential in Anderson and Nani both for around £15 million, then we sell Rossi who has just as much potential if not more yet he is sold for around £7 million, does not make sense.
so does this mean that Keano will be getting 'Smith' as the 'mystery star' from us if the Tevez deal goes through??
Gutted. Real fecking talent just squandered.
sack Fergie ,he,s sold a reserve player ......
If you can't trust Fergie,s judgement go and support someone else
If you can't trust Fergie,s judgement go and support someone else
Nah, I said it before when we were first linked with Tevez that the only way I'd be happy to see him here is if it didn't hinder Rossi's oppertunities.
For me Rossi's future came as priority over the new signings we made I'd have been happy if all we had added to the side was Joe Red with another year to his name.
I have no doubts he'll be a huge success in Spain and will be commanding a £15 million+ transfer fee in 2 or 3 years time.
I'm not sure Tevez will fail (I think, whether he scores a lot of goals or not he'll always be a creative force) but I doubt he's going to be worth the cash we'd need to spend on him to sign him after 2 years.
And David Jones is that good? he lost his place in the Derby team for the crucial end of season matches