All Rossi transfer speculation here please

So if does go to Barca how gutted will people be that he never made it here?

Even now I'm not sure where he'd fit in with Rooney and now Hernandez scoring for fun and when he was sold I'm not sure anyone can argue that we weren't bringing in a better player in Tevez

Personally I think it's a case of a quality player just not needed at the club due to us having even better players, still slightly gutting to see him go to Barca though (if it does happen)
 
People will still say he couldn't do it in England...you can't win..:) He's quality. Not much else to say. He impressed in his short time but people were unrealistic when comparisons with Tevez. You can't beat someone with Tevez's experience. It was a non brainer that after x amount of time people would realise what was bloody obvious...but that's what can happen when you fanny about. He's doing ok for himself and we're not too bad either.
 
charlenefan said:
So if does go to Barca how gutted will people be that he never made it here?

Even now I'm not sure where he'd fit in with Rooney and now Hernandez scoring for fun and when he was sold I'm not sure anyone can argue that we weren't bringing in a better player in Tevez

Personally I think it's a case of a quality player just not needed at the club due to us having even better players, still slightly gutting to see him go to Barca though (if it does happen)
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Its gutting, but rather he went anywhere besides another English club.
 
Striker10 said:
People will still say he couldn't do it in England...you can't win..:) He's quality. Not much else to say. He impressed in his short time but people were unrealistic when comparisons with Tevez. You can't beat someone with Tevez's experience. It was a non brainer that after x amount of time people would realise what was bloody obvious...but that's what can happen when you fanny about. He's doing ok for himself and we're not too bad either.
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Still think he's better than Tevez?
 
Ekeke said:
Wow you really are paranoid.

Its pretty obvious what I'm saying. We lost 2 good players and gained 1, it doesnt seem right and certainly wasnt the optimal outcome.

I didnt like us signing Tevez and Rossi not having the chance, but I got over it and warmed to Tevez. Then he left too - I dont see the point of this series of events.
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I don't think we expected Tevez to be quite so difficult to manage which threw a spanner in the works, I'd imagine the plan was to have three top class strikers as we do now but Tevez wasn't ready for being part of the rotation. If he was a bit more open to the idea and we did have those three then it would've been very understandable, I'd assume?

I don't think Rossi wasn ready to be starting 30-odd games for us, he was barely ready to start 30 games for Villareal in his first season. In that season he was still young and inconsistent, he had a period of 9 games without a goal. He wasn't ready to be our immediate back up to Saha after we'd seen his injury problems, effectively having him as our second striker for over half a season at a time when we were fighting on all fronts.

He was still developing and it's such an important position you have to be really exceptional to play there from a young age for the top teams never mind the fact we already had Rooney who was a streaky scorer. For a team that was fighting for the league and champions league Rossi wasn't ready to start that many games and he knew that himself - it was either wait a couple of more years as a 4th choice or move on, in his view. He just chose the latter, sadly. Entirely understandable given he had the option to play first team football for a team who was in the CL semis the year before, very hard to turn down, but still disappointing. This is the same scenario as Welbeck and I do fear there's going to be a similar outcome, although him being a local boy obviously helps.
 
Brwned said:
Still think he's better than Tevez?
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Depends what you mean. They're different types of goalscorers. I never said he was better. That kind of discussion is really just opinion - but what was evident is at the time, people were dismissing rossi based on the fact he was a kid against a guy who had built a reputation in argentina..in brazil etc.. Both are qualtiy but I think Rossi is perhaps more polished technically.

Tevez has clearly blossomed at city and that could easily happen with Rossi if he went to Barca (doubtful)

He's not just a goalscorer. He's creative and good in possession which is somewhat like Tevez but Tevez at United is certainly not the tevez at City. Striker wise, we're in good shape so there's no complaints.
 
Striker10 said:
Depends what you mean. They're different types of goalscorers. I never said he was better. That kind of discussion is really just opinion - but what was evident is at the time, people were dismissing rossi based on the fact he was a kid against a guy who had built a reputation in argentina..in brazil etc.. Both are qualtiy but I think Rossi is perhaps more polished technically.
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No no, you did. At a time when you didn't think Tevez was all that.
 
Brwned said:
No no, you did. At a time when you didn't think Tevez was all that.
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fine, link me to my post. Oh and btw, did I say player or goalscorer? I've over 12,000 posts..you'll have to forgive my selective memory :) - If you link me then it's easier to respond honestly.
 
I'm a huge fan, he's probably my favourite player outside United (and I don't have many). I was gutted when we let him go, especially as Ole retired later that summer and we sold Smith. He should have given it that one extra year, but he didn't want to I guess so that's that.

He's definitely good enough.
 
Striker10 said:
fine, link me to my post. Oh and btw, did I say player or goalscorer? I've over 12,000 posts..you'll have to forgive my selective memory :) - If you link me then it's easier to respond honestly.
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Striker10 said:
I think he has been vindicated. He's not a 30million pound player on current form. In fact he's rarely shown he's worth that much since he came to England.

Owens doing well enough to suggest he'll score more goals then Tevez and at 29 we can nurture the young talent coming through.

Oh and Rossi is better
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One of multiple.
 
Why you want to debate me on this? Do you agree Tevez is a different player at City then he was at United? (though he took a while to warm up) There was more pressure on at United, some of it unfair I grant you. However, he was always going to be understudy to Rooney IF we didn't play the pair - regardless of what he did.

I said on current form. That means 'currently' - recogning things could change. However I don't know when i wrote that, if you expect me to remember the time and date ...that won't happen :)

Is Rossi better? That's an opinion. Just like me saying, Tevez would never be top dog at United....however, I think Rossi as a player, as a person would have a great career at most clubs. Maybe we can have this discussion when they've both retired.....but don't be dismissive of Rossi. That'd be silly. He's done enough to be respected. Unfortunately, the Italian coach is a dick. Rossi should be a regular for Italy.
 
Brwned said:
I don't think we expected Tevez to be quite so difficult to manage which threw a spanner in the works, I'd imagine the plan was to have three top class strikers as we do now but Tevez wasn't ready for being part of the rotation. If he was a bit more open to the idea and we did have those three then it would've been very understandable, I'd assume?

I don't think Rossi wasn ready to be starting 30-odd games for us, he was barely ready to start 30 games for Villareal in his first season. In that season he was still young and inconsistent, he had a period of 9 games without a goal . He wasn't ready to be our immediate back up to Saha after we'd seen his injury problems, effectively having him as our second striker for over half a season at a time when we were fighting on all fronts.

He was still developing and it's such an important position you have to be really exceptional to play there from a young age for the top teams never mind the fact we already had Rooney who was a streaky scorer. For a team that was fighting for the league and champions league Rossi wasn't ready to start that many games and he knew that himself - it was either wait a couple of more years as a 4th choice or move on, in his view. He just chose the latter, sadly. Entirely understandable given he had the option to play first team football for a team who was in the CL semis the year before, very hard to turn down, but still disappointing. This is the same scenario as Welbeck and I do fear there's going to be a similar outcome, although him being a local boy obviously helps.
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I agree with most of your post but that's a strange argument: Berbatov had longer goal droughts than that, even this season but I definitely wouldn't say he's not ready to be the 3rd striker.

Still, you're right that Rossi wanted to leave, didn't want to be 4th choice so no use crying over him any more. Spain suits him better than England anyway.
 
Great technique, would love it if he could make a move to Juve. He's made for the Bianconeri.
 
Yes, but his finishing is such a prominent part of his game - "best finisher at the club" - whereas I don't think the same can be said of Berbatov, and I thought it somewhat illustrated his inconsistency. That said, yeah, maybe not worth pointing out. I just couldn't really think of a way to show his inconsistency, really.

TheHorse'sMouth said:
Great technique, would love it if he could make a move to Juve. He's made for the Bianconeri.
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Aye, many have said the same. Almost getting to the point where they can't afford him though.
 
In Italy they're talking about Juventus moving for Benzema and Agüero... if there's any truth, any basis to these rumours then I'd say they could afford Rossi as well.
 
I always had the feeling that he was never a top priority for them and that they would instead persue other targets.

Probably better for him that the deal didn't go through as he wouldn't have been first choice at the Nou Camp anyway.
 
Okay - I know he played for us as a striker - but haven't seen him recently!

Is he a striker or would he fit into our midfield if we're looking for skillful, creative, midfield playmakers?
 
Juventus negotiations for Rossi moving along

By Luca Cetta

Juventus General Manager Beppe Marotta has told journalists negotiations for Villarreal striker Giuseppe Rossi are gathering pace paving the way for the Italian to join the Bianconeri quite soon.

With Atletico Madrid holding out for a club to match Sergio Aguero’s release clause of €45 million, Juve, who have failed to go higher than €35 million for the Argentine, has turned its attention to the Italian international.

Marotta held meetings with the Yellow Submarine last week while in Spain. And it is believed that signing Rossi has now been priortised over the earlier planned capture of Aguero.

“We are working without hurry, but also focusing on many objectives. Rossi? We are getting there, it is true, but we are also tracking other players,” Marotta told journalists at the Old Lady’s pre-season training camp at Bardonecchia.

Juventus may be able to sway the Spanish club with a bid of €25 million, plus a player. Felipe Melo is thought to be the player in question; however, after not being included in the pre-season camp, Momo Sissoko may play a part in the negotiations.
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Juventus negotiations for Rossi moving along

The rumours linking Giuseppe Rossi to Juventus are growing. I think it would be a great signing by Juventus and also, if it does go through, then it would be a very good move in the long term for Rossi. A player like him would help bring Juventus back to the pinnacle of Italian football.

By the way, with the transfers that have been made and are rumoured to be potentially made in Serie A this summer - it seems that next season could be a very exciting one in Italy. There are several teams almost who are trying to battle for the Scudetto and may have a decent shot at it too.
 
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