Absolutely dreadful idea. That'd mean we have only two back ups for the CB spots. Why not just play 4-3-3 with a left back?
Alexis Sanchez | Staying at Arsenal after City deal falls apart
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Like diarm said, either Antoine or Alexis, both have a lot of freedom in their respective teams. I mean, it's more like their teams move or play in order to maximize them. That allows them to participate in the build of play.
That's a thing that will definitely is not going to happen here. Therefore, they will not shine in the same way.
That's a thing that will definitely is not going to happen here. Therefore, they will not shine in the same way.
You mean sharing minutes with Ronaldo? Or playing CF?
----------Ibra------------
Martial - Mkhi - Sanchez
-----Pogba - Carrick-----
LB - CB - Bailly - Valencia
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Just need to teach Pogba how to play in a double pivot. If he could learn that discipline then we would have a monstrous attack.
Martial - Mkhi - Sanchez
-----Pogba - Carrick-----
LB - CB - Bailly - Valencia
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Just need to teach Pogba how to play in a double pivot. If he could learn that discipline then we would have a monstrous attack.
He can play it fine, but he's better when he is allowed to dribble and move without any worry about losing the ball.
If we had Kante or somebody similar next to him that was a bit quicker and better at intercepting he could be more risky.
If our wingers kept the width more then he could smash balls around like Scholes all day long.
The way we play with a narrow attack is difficult to do that though, it suits the pass/move style that 3 CM's support.
Loved his reaction to drawing. Looks like he feels he should be at a higher tier club than the ones celebrating draws like Arsenal and Liverpool.
Sign him up!
Sign him up!
Would rather have Griezman
Tough one to call but I think I would take Sanchez over Griezmann to be honest. He was brilliant in la liga, amazing in the premiership and even at international level I think he outshines Griezmann.
DDG
Valencia Bailly Smalling Shaw
Carrick
Herrera Pogba
Mkhi
Zlatan Alexis
Game Over...
You have more chance of 'stuffing' Sanchez into a side with Pogba and getting the most out of both than Griezmann.
Who the better player is, is debatable, but with Sanchez already performing in the PL, you've got less settling-in period, no gripes over the calender and a much more proven player in terms of flexibility/positional competence.
If we didn't have Pogba, I'm not sure which of the two I'd go for, but as we do, I find Sanchez more appealing as a target, should he want out, of course.
Who the better player is, is debatable, but with Sanchez already performing in the PL, you've got less settling-in period, no gripes over the calender and a much more proven player in terms of flexibility/positional competence.
If we didn't have Pogba, I'm not sure which of the two I'd go for, but as we do, I find Sanchez more appealing as a target, should he want out, of course.
I felt at Barca the issue of deference was too great for him to contend with. Messi was on fire then and the team was catered to him almost to a point where if he wasn't passed too, it was sacrilege. Both Xavi and Iniesta controlled play, again, if they weren't deferred to, it was like the other player had lost his mind and was doing the wrong thing (by not seeking one of the 3). Those are stifling and unique conditions, and it's not hard to imagine they do a number on the player psychologically. We're not nearly as good as Barca were (no sh*t) and Alexis has also grown as a player since then. I'm sure he would look at our talent and think he was either on par or better, certainly to the point where he wouldn't feel the need to automatically defer to someone else 9/10 instead of trusting in his own ability to accomplish a decisive action for the team.
As we're also trying to find our feet and establish hierarchy within a settled team, a player good enough to carve out a niche in the side can easily establish himself as a go-to guy in the team. In a theoretical sense, we're a really good option for great players to come in and carve out a legacy for themselves with the only pressure them being under is delivering on the pitch, as opposed to being compared to past legends or having to maintain a true standard of excellence that preceded them rather than establish a new dawn that they are an intrinsic part of.
From the way he plays, I think he'd thrive in a rapid one-touch team whilst being intelligent enough to assimilate without compromising himself too much.
Id love him here. Fantastic player and wasted at Arsenal considering he actually has some grit and fight to him.
Yeah those are all well made points. There's no doubt we'd all be delighted if we were to sign him.
Some players you can almost guarantee would do well if they came and he is probably the player I would most like to see. You need that aggression and anger to make it at a top club and Giroud's celebration just sums up Arsenal over the last decade.
Sanchez deserves better. Send Schneiderlin in the other direction as a sweetner.
Sanchez - Mkhi - Martial
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orgasmic front four.
So apparently Sanchez is frustrated that "Arsenal cannot sustain a major Premier League title challenge". Unless he's an absolute idiot I just don't buy this. What did he expect when he signed for Arsenal?
Id willingly trade Smalling for him as part of the deal.
He is an idiot. Going to Arsenal and being surprised that you are not winning trophies is right there with hiring Moyes as manager and getting surprised that he is not a good manager.
Probably saw their trophy case and was told that they're one of the biggest clubs in England. Probably didn't thought it'll be like this
Players get wooed with projects and promises, too, you know?
When he went there Oezil had not long come through the door and surely that would suggest a potential upswing in talent and aspirations? If they told him this was their new standard (him and Oezil) and more like them would be coming in, it's not hard to imagine him being duped if he was not being objective.
I don't find it hard to imagine a club saying whatever a player wants to hear to get him to sign that contract. Then it's a cat and mouse game to keep him when the next round of talks come if you've lied through your teeth about "the project" the first time.
Just reading about the Sanchez unhappiness with his teammates after the 3-3 result - he's off in the summer, looks a certainty.
He should be United's number 1 priority imo, he is perfect for us. I think he would come to us.
He should be United's number 1 priority imo, he is perfect for us. I think he would come to us.
Needs to be at an elite club. Pointless him being at Arsenal, its a bit of a waste. He isn't coming here, though.
nah, we're not desperate to get quality forward like Sanchez. our 1st top priority is a player that can play Carrick role in our midfield.
And stick the world's most expensive player as a left wingback?
I think his priority was London and CL team, when he signed.
Remember this...?
http://metro.co.uk/2016/10/26/paul-...entral-defender-claims-jose-mourinho-6215700/
But no, I was just riffing ideas of how you could hypothetically get Sanchez in this United team really.
How about this 4141...
-----------------------DDG-------------------
Val-----------Jones---------Bailly----------Blind
----------------------Carrick-------------------
Mkhi--------Herrera--------Pogba------Sanchez
-----------------------Zlatan---------------------
I'd love to see that.
He should really consider his options closely. Our club is the one on the way up + putting in enough money to reach the very top. Other teams are just trying to keep status quo. And yes, he's totally wasted at Arsenal. How the hell can he accept having to do all that work on his own. He will get injured or have a big drop of form within this month if Wenger keeps this up.
There's not a millisecond of a game where he's not complaining about his team mates. The standard difference is painful to watch. We all know what it's like ending up in a group that just sucks the energy out of you because they can't contribute with anything that you can't do better yourself.
Results of that is you'll have to:
1. Smile, drop to their level and just surrender to their standards. Feel happy with shit improvements because they are happy.
2. Highly protest against being teamed up with players below your standard and having to do everything for them while they're basking in your glory. To make things worse you also get paid pocket change while other players come out of retirement to play in China for 100x your salary.
I would love to hear some Arsenal fans trying to convince Alexis to stay.
#FreeAlexis #ContratcsAreHandcuffs
Remember this...?
http://metro.co.uk/2016/10/26/paul-...entral-defender-claims-jose-mourinho-6215700/
But no, I was just riffing ideas of how you could hypothetically get Sanchez in this United team really.
How about this 4141...
-----------------------DDG-------------------
Val-----------Jones---------Bailly----------Blind
----------------------Carrick-------------------
Mkhi--------Herrera--------Pogba------Sanchez
-----------------------Zlatan---------------------
I'd love to see that.
Honestly believe that's CL winning quality. I don't see why we couldn't win against any team with those players. We can make it happen.
Wonderful post. Can I say that this exact post could also be written about Zlatan and it explains why that Barca team can be so tough for certain types of players.. it isn't really an ability thing but a mindset incompatibility.
Neymar being a brazillian and more slower in his play, i.e. mixture of dribbling as well as keep ball, was a much better fit for a Barca side than a Sanchez, who at that stage of his career was a very Fergie-esque wide forward. He was at completely the wrong side for him both tactically and psychologically.
Suarez is fortunate, he joined the side when Enrique was manager and when Messi wasn't false 9 anymore because under Pep and peak Messi as a team mate, I don't think he'd have thrived.
Someone needs to email that formation to Woody, the muppet in him will know it needs to happen.
Seriously...Rooney replacement? Rooney has no spot in the current first team and we are not playing with second striker or proper #10. Why on earth would you want his replacement? Wanting Griezmann just for the sake of it is baffling to me, he just doesn't fit what we play now. We should buy players to play around Pogba and his strengths, not limit him by shoehorning someone. Sanchez would fit us like a glove on the other hand...
Why? All of those players are easily capable of playing 4-3-3.
Why would we sign a Martial replacement?Remember this...?
http://metro.co.uk/2016/10/26/paul-...entral-defender-claims-jose-mourinho-6215700/
But no, I was just riffing ideas of how you could hypothetically get Sanchez in this United team really.
How about this 4141...
-----------------------DDG-------------------
Val-----------Jones---------Bailly----------Blind
----------------------Carrick-------------------
Mkhi--------Herrera--------Pogba------Sanchez
-----------------------Zlatan---------------------
I'd love to see that.
Someone being a Beckham fanboy is a deciding factor when signing someone? And Griezmann being better, maybe (debatable)...where do you play him? You would push Pogba back into midfield two just to shoehorn him in? Instead of having Sanchez that would fit us perfectly, that can cover multiple forward positions (unlike Griezmann) and that would allow us to have perfect rotation bewteen 4 main attackers for 3 positions along with developing Rashford further. Hell, he would be cheaper too being in his last year of the contract and pushing for the exit...50-60 million instead of 80+ for Griezmann.
I just think Griezman would kick on to be one one of the worlds best at OT.
Not even true. The idea that he can only play as a second striker is a bit silly tbh
Our long term left forward is Martial. No point putting formations with Sanchez left side. Zlatan is the one that will need replacing amongst our forward line, not that Sanchez can't play there. The pipe-dream is surely Miki…Sanchez…Martial. (Not that I think theres a possibility!).
I worded it wrongly, he can play other forward positions but he would not be as effective. If you sign someone for 80+ million you want to get the best out of him. If Griezmann is placed on the wing or something you wouldn't be getting that. Sanchez would be just as good on multiple forward slots, the flexibility we would get with him would be immense. Not just regarding from game to game rotation but during the games too. Him interchanging positions with our fowards during games would give us an extra dimension to our attack.
I think when a player of that quality becomes available - you have to try and get him. He could have the same affect RVP did when he joined.
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