If they make top 4, liverpool should go all-in on him
Alexis Sanchez | Staying at Arsenal after City deal falls apart
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Never stops running, quick, feisty, changes games and is a real competitor. He's a 'United-type' player if ever there was one.
Don't think we'll get him though. Not with Wenger in charge anyway.
Don't think we'll get him though. Not with Wenger in charge anyway.
Antoine is so dangerous and resolutive that the last time that he score in La Liga was three months ago.
Cheeky £30,000,000.01 bid?
In all seriousness, that's never going to happen. He's already at a club which prides itself on 'just' making the top 4, which shouldn't be enough for a player of his quality. At this stage in his career he surely wants 3 - 4 years of actual, fairly guaranteed, trophies?
Have you been watching too much NBA lately?
Yes because one season where his team is struggling is enough to make a judgement about a player who last season was one of the best in the world and competing with Messi and Ronaldo for goals scored.
Antoine is a better player, no doubt there.
But...Alexis might be a better fit. He's probably better than Griezmann on the wing, and he is already familiar with EPL.
They should offer 40,000,001 pounds.
Juve will probably look to pounce.
Always wanted Alexis. I am sure we can fit in him somehow.
Zlatan, Mkhi, Martial, Rashford, Alexis, Mata for three spots.
Zlatan, Mkhi, Martial, Rashford, Alexis, Mata for three spots.
Actually no, we wouldn't need to switch formation to accomodate him, unlike with Griezmann. Alexis would play the position of inside left forward and would fit us absolutely perfectly. For me going for him is no brainer, if it's possible. He's perfect embodient of a Jose player and he would be able to cover all forward positions we currently have if need be. He just turned 28 and entered his absolute prime, PL proven...I would take him over Griezmann any day of the week...we would be able to get the best out of both Sanchez and Pogba. He would instantly elevate us to PL favorites and CL contenders.
You would have 4 world class (or potentially world class) players covering 3 positions as "main" options. Zlatan will be 36 next year and, while being freak of nature that he is, we can't expect from him to maintain this tempo. He'll slowly scale back his play time so accomodating all of them wouldn't be a problem, that would mean Rashford would slowly elevate his role as well, exactly as we want it.
We would be able to play these variations, depending on who is available and ready:
Zlatan
Alexis Mkhi
Zlatan
Martial Alexis
Martial
Alexis Mkhi
Zlatan
Martial Mkhi
With Alexis being able to play CF as well if needed.
With us (presumably) playing CL next season and with PL becoming ever more competitive, we will need to have an extra world class player for rotation like that one if we want to keep the edge. Rashford will continue his progress and still get a lot of play time and then become part of the "4" with Zlatan fading away. We would be set for 4-5 seasons before needing to look replacement for Sanchez and Mkhi by that time.
His contract runs out this summer?
Could play something like:
Zlatan
Martial - Mkhitaryan - Alexis
Pogba - A very good DM to cover everything
Martial - Mkhitaryan - Alexis
Pogba - A very good DM to cover everything
2018, I think. Yeah, 30/06/2018: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/alexis-sanchez/profil/spieler/40433
Make Sanchezter United finally happen.
Think we missed the boat with this one really, god knows why we never went for him in the first place. He would have been the perfect 7 for us after Ronaldo. Really strange.
He wasn't that good when Ronaldo left. We should have got Robben to replace Ronaldo and Sanchez to replace Nani.
I can't remember the exact timeline but he was fantastic or Udinese, I remember him playing as a 10 behind Di Natale and he ripped Italy apart. We should have signed him that season.
That was 2 years later (Sanchez had three seasons in Udine starting from 2008-2009 and was great only in the last season). I think that we might have been interested but he made it clear that he'll either go to Barca that season or run out his contract and go to Barca. City offered him a way higher salary (and more money for the club) but Udinese's hands were tied and they were forced to sell him to Barca.
Unfortunately for Sanchez, things didn't go well at Barca. Unfortunately for us, he was too direct for LVG and so we weren't interested to sign him when he left Barca.
Well, I said change formations on the basis of getting regualr playing time for Martial and Rashford. Of course, Sanchez can play wide left. The reason for my concern was more along the lines of Jose (judging by his past teams) is not a fan of rotation once he has his first 11 down. Even in his most recent Chelsea team, the likes of Remy and Filipe Luis started less than 20 games. Sanchez right now is a level above Martial, so Mourinho would likely want to start him as often as possible. When you add to that the fact that Zlatan and Sanchez are both the type of personalities who would turn up wanting to play every game even if they had both legs blown off, I doubt Mourinho would be too keen to rest them, given their quality and mentality. So you either change formation, or hope Martial and Rashford can share that spot, with Mata and Jesse Lingard, and still develop and reach the potential they have shown so far. I would love for us to get Sanchez, he's incredible, but I think if we do, we'd maybe do better trying to get an all action midfield collosus from somewhere and switching formations with Pogba in a midfield 2 but with less defensive responsibility.
Great minds think alike and all that
Will be great to have him in our team. he has strong and winning mentality. but we're not desperate to buy him. for next transfer, I really hope that we can get right midfield player to accompany Pogba and Herrera, new full back and CB.
I believe it will be summer 2018 (four years since he signed for the Arse)
I understand you completely. I have to add though, PL changed, it's not as it was 10 years ago, even 5 years ago. So much more money with new TV rights is involved which made the league so much more competitive. Look at the top 6 this year, and all 'smaller' teams are able to drop 30 odd million for a player and you need to take them seriously or you'll be dropping points...you are not able to avoid some sort of rotations anymore since there's less and less 'easy' games. Thus overal intensity of the league went up and is more physically demanding than ever. Add CL games on top of that and you realize that burning players out is real danger and can ruin the saeson for you. Jose is aware of that and we can see the signs, I am certain he will aim to have a bit wider pool of players than just 'first 11'.
£900.000 per week. Fecking hell
Well, as I said, he didn't do it just 2 seasons ago at Chelsea. Though Chelsea after a flying start did visibly slow down in the second half of the season, and obviously started very poorly the season after. So perhaps Jose will try to aim for a wider pool of players as you say.
If we take that as true, I'd rather see us sign Sanchez than Griezmann. Even though I think Griezmann may be the slightly better player, Sanchez has more pace and dribbling ability; his skillset helps us in terms of what we lack in a more way than Greizmann. Plus, he can obviously play wide which Griezmann may struggle with.
All of that said, there is no way Wenger is selling his best player to Mourinho and I am absolutely that we are signing Griezmann (based on absolutely nothing except a hunch). So probably for the best we don't get too attached to the idea of Sanchez at United. I've fallen for it before in wanting us to sign him after Ronaldo left and he was still at Udinese. I don't think my heart could take another saga like that. Griezmann seems the far safer option to muppet about.
Is that tax free too?
I agree, altho if Sanchez agrees with us there's not much Wenger can do short of denying the move and losing on 50 odd million we would pay for him (I doubt he would cost more beeing in the last year of the contract). RvP happened already recently as well after all. On top of that there's the possibility Arsenal drops out of top 4 in which case Wenger will certainly be gone...it would make transfer more sensible and easier to do.
I also agree we would do better with Sanchez in the current formation. I have to add that Griezmann played wide left in Sociedad...still Sanchez would offer us more in terms of versatility and work rate as well as being already more than adjusted to PL.
I'd bid big for him, I'd even favour Sanchez over Griezmann at the current period.
Bid 45-60m on his last year of his contract, a player like him, he'd make United a title challenging team.
Bid 45-60m on his last year of his contract, a player like him, he'd make United a title challenging team.
I'd rather develop our own £55m signing first before spunking the same amount of money for a player who play in the same position.
Bid 44,444,444 pounds for him
Martial, Ibra, Mkhitaryan and Sanchez to rotate for three positions is not that bad. Especially with Ibta having (likely) just an another season.
Griezmann is a very hard worker himself. And not sure that Sanchez is faster, especially with Griezmann having perfect runs that fool the offside trap.
Currently as we are, I think that Sanchez would be a better fit. He would just play in one of the wings without changing much the formation, and while Griezmann can play in right wing too, he is at best when he plays as second striker (in addition, putting Griezmann in right wing means that Mhiky would need to play in left wing where he is not as good).
Griezmann has been the better player during their careers, but he is also having a bad form at the moment (probably affected from losing 2 big finals within 2 months).
If ever possible, he would be the perfect player and winger for Mou, and based on the FT reactions, he is a winner too. Direct, pacey, skilful and have that very important EPL experience. United need more winners like him, Ibra and Pogba in the team. More leaders and experienced players to mentor the younger ones like Martial and Rashford. After the previous seasons' abysmal results, I rather Woody try and obtain such players now whenever possible.
Always wanted him, so clearly a United player.
As wonderful of a player Griezmann is he wouldn't fit us the way Sanchez would, like you said, and he doesn't have that grit Sanchez does. Sanchez just oozes that determination and mentality Jose wants. I just don't see that in Griezmann. Like I said, getting Sanchez means we get the best of both him and Pogba and it would elevate us to PL favorites and CL contenders.
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