In terms of having the same impact on City? I think we'll contend anyway, personally (if we sign a LB). I think Sanchez would just make us clear favourites.
Alexis Sanchez | Staying at Arsenal after City deal falls apart
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Wenger and Kroenke (Sr) are the only people that really matter.
Other than Gazidis, who is involved but has limited real power in the end, the Arsenal board is essentially a bunch of posh London nitwits who enjoy the social prestige of the position but do almost nothing substantive when it comes to footballing decisions. You think Sir Chips Keswick and Lord Harris of Peckham are going to force Wenger to sell Sanchez? No.
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Lol. Have you actually followed anything that happens at this club? Clearly not.
To be clear, I think Wenger might sell Sanchez. But it certainly won't be because Sir Chips and the rest instruct him to do so.
Give us Martial and £20m and it's a deal
Key point being your view, Arsenal have finished above United in the four years, Arsenal will certainly see United as a team they can finish above.
Wenger is a big fan of Smalling, a straight swap sounds like a good deal for all concerned
Replace Sanchez with who? Arsenal aren't getting anyone in the same category as Sanchez. The money doesn't mean too much in the grand scheme of things if it means missing out on the champions league - that's where the consistent revenue can come from and Arsenal will likely have more of a chance of doing this with Sanchez in the side and far less likely if sold to a league rival.
Next summer is a long time - who knows what will happen in football by then. You may be right but I think there are many reasons as to why Arsenal will resist selling him to a league rival - think you're underestimating the current climate at the club.
I'd be down for £50m+Martial on loan for a season.
Kroenke sits on the board, so by default the Arsenal board have a big say. Ultimately if Keoenke wants to sell he can persuade the board to force it through, so it's a one man decision.
I'm glad those 3 points your lot finished above Arsenal makes you that confident.
Conveniently ignoring Kroenke?
Also Sir Chips (whoever that is) will surely understand simple maths and force him to take the highest offer rather than let his feud with Jose cost them millions.
Kroenke is the owner. He doesn't need to "force" anything through the board, and implying that decisions are made by the board is silly.
More importantly, Kroenke comes to England once a year to pat everybody on the back and is busy building a massive stadium/mall in LA for his American football team. He probably thinks Alexis Sanchez is a teen pop singer. The last time he got involved in a footballing decision like this was the First of Never.
Jose won't be negotiating transfers with Wenger, is the point.
It will be Woodward and his equivalent at Arsenal (Kroenke?)
Your capacity for self-delusion is quite impressive.
Sir Chips will sit in his luxury box, hobnob with posh friends, and do absolutely nothing on the footballing side, as he has done for the last decade.
The club is run like a dictatorship. Wenger is appointed by the absentee king (Kroenke) and has the last word on every footballing decision. That is the (unfortunate) truth.
There's lots of reasons why I'm more confident than last season.
- The young players in the squad who impressed like Sane and Jesus are a year further along in development, and don't need months to settle in this time around (Sane in particular).
- Jesus was only available for a few months last season, this time we've got him all year.
- We've finally got somebody in the squad who can take the pressure off D.Silva and KdB (B.Silva)
- Our fullbacks have improved hugely if we replace Sagna and Clichy with Walker and Mendy, going from the worst pair of fullbacks in the top 6 to arguably the best.
- Bravo had a woeful season, and I can only assume at this stage that Ederson will have a better season. It can't be worse.
- Kompany only managed 11 games in the league last year. If he stays remotely fit we've got the best CB in the league.
- Gundogan also suffered a big injury and can have a big impact if he stays fit, particularly in a part of the pitch we are somewhat weak.
- Pep has had a full year to assess the squad so hopefully has a good idea of who can play where with relative success this time around.
No wonder he gave himself a new contract.
I hope you're right, I don't want to see him sold to City.
There is no Woodward equivalent at Arsenal. Closest thing is Gazidis but he is like Woodward with almost zero real power.
No wonder he gave himself a new contract.
I hope you're right, I don't want to see him sold to City.
Yup, the Wenger contract situation showed how powerless anybody else at the club truly was. Pathetically run club really.
Wenger still might sell Sanchez, but it won't be because somebody forces him to do it.
Like I said before, you have a very good squad, but the fact of the matter remains, that you've had the best squad in the PL for years now and you've only won the title once in 5 years.
You can't really have it both ways, the younger players get better and settled and at the same time the older, injury-prone players suddenly get less injury prone?
What I had been getting at, most of all, is that should he decide to (get force to) sell Sanchez this summer, I don't think his so called feud with Jose is going to dictate where he sells Sanchez to.
Sanchez may well refuse to join United, but I just don't believe anyone at Arsenal will sell him to City for LESS than what United offer.
So Wenger and Kroenke make the decisions, but now Kroenke doesn't get involved. So you're saying Wenger effectively runs the entire club then. That would be a disaster.
He had no say on anything. There's only two guys that matter at Arsenal: Kroenke(owner) and Wenger. Everyone else is there either for show, or to run help Wenger run things. Gazidis is technically wenger's boss, yet wenger was among the people who interviewed him for the job. Wenger hired his "boss". That's the situation at that club
Feck sake thought something had happened when this thread jumped five pages the last time i visited here
We are also not going to pay 80m to a player who has only a year contract left, lads
We are also not going to pay 80m to a player who has only a year contract left, lads
We just paid 75M for lukaku in the final year of his deal.
Why would he go to City where they have have Jesus, the two Silvas, KDB and Aguero up top? Forgot to mention Sterling as well
Don't think so mate
So you're saying Wenger could actually sell Sanchez to City for less than what United are offering and Kroenke will be okay with that?
Who knows. I don't think Wenger will particularly care about who to sell to in england, so long as it's a big enough fee that he can't refuse itSo you're saying Wenger could actually sell Sanchez to City for less than what United are offering and Kroenke will be okay with that?
It is a disaster.
That's what I've been getting at all along. Many on here seem to think Jose' feud with Wenger will decide Sanchez' destination.
What me and the arsenal fans here are saying, is that Wenger won't sell him in England. Well, personally i think he would -for a world record fee-
No one is going to offer a world record fee for someone with 1yr left on his contract.
Then he'll stay at arsenal
Then we probably don't win the league - and if he goes to City, they probably do win the PL, possibly multiple times with him.
If I was Woodward/Mourinho I'd pay whatever to get him at United in that fecking number 7 shirt.
So, what did Jose mean when he said this:
Bizarre, it was a question on Morata. So did Jose accidentally name-drop Alexis instead of saying Morata, or was he talking about Jose Angel Sanchez, or was he thinking about Renato Sanches and said his name instead of Morata, again by accident? These are the three theories doing the rounds.
Beats me. While Jose Angel Sanchez seems to be more likely, the context doesn't make sense.
EDIT: A Real Madrid fan account on twitter translated it properly. Seems to be Jose Angel Sanchez. That's done with for sure then.
Bizarre, it was a question on Morata. So did Jose accidentally name-drop Alexis instead of saying Morata, or was he talking about Jose Angel Sanchez, or was he thinking about Renato Sanches and said his name instead of Morata, again by accident? These are the three theories doing the rounds.
Beats me. While Jose Angel Sanchez seems to be more likely, the context doesn't make sense.
EDIT: A Real Madrid fan account on twitter translated it properly. Seems to be Jose Angel Sanchez. That's done with for sure then.
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I think he's a great player, but that's some serious over-estimating.
I don't think so. If he goes to either us or City we'll find out!
To win things. Assuming Aguero leaves, he'll be starter.
You talk like he's at a level to guarantee the title, but he's not.
The only player in the world who can just about guarantee the PL title is Ronaldo.
I don't want him. He doesn't provide width for his position and very little service to the striker with his movements inside.
He suits a side as an inside forward with a striker who plays to his strengths, not a side who just spent 75m on a striker.
He condenses the play a little too much which wouldn't suit Pogba who everybody says we should build the side around. Well this would actually be doing that. We need width to get the best out of Paul.
He suits a side as an inside forward with a striker who plays to his strengths, not a side who just spent 75m on a striker.
He condenses the play a little too much which wouldn't suit Pogba who everybody says we should build the side around. Well this would actually be doing that. We need width to get the best out of Paul.
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