Alexis Sanchez | Staying at Arsenal after City deal falls apart

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If they get Sanchez they'll win the league comfortably. We should be all over this like; a talented, creative, dribbling machine, gamechanger is what we've needed for years.

I honestly think he's worth paying whatever it takes even if it means dwarfing existing offers.
 
We should not let City get him without a fight. We can match them for wages and fees. He has played under Pep but was played in the wrong position and ultimately sold. So there is no guarantee that playing under Pep will bring the best out of him. At United, he will not have a competition for his place in the side also. He'll always start and play in his preferred position. Basically, what I am saying is City have nothing over us and if Arsenal are planning to sell him to City, we should go all out and try to snatch him from them.
 
Although it would be a very Arsenal thing to do I don't think they'll sell him to a rival in their current state. First of all it would make the fans go apeshit and they can't afford to make the atmosphere any more hostile. Secondly, they would put a severe dent in their top four hopes and the CL money is worth more than a transfer fee for a player in the last year of his contract. I think he's staying.
 
fergosaurus said:
Although it would be a very Arsenal thing to do I don't think they'll sell him to a rival in their current state. First of all it would make the fans go apeshit and they can't afford to make the atmosphere any more hostile. Secondly, they would put a severe dent in their top four hopes and the CL money is worth more than a transfer fee for a player in the last year of his contract. I think he's staying.
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I doubt it though. Arsenal is always about financial sense - that's why they haven't really tried desperately for the title all these years. They sold RVP when he was in the last year of his contract.
 
Subho611 said:
I doubt it though. Arsenal is always about financial sense - that's why they haven't really tried desperately for the title all these years. They sold RVP when he was in the last year of his contract.
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I think the situation now is different though. There is a lot more unrest about Wenger and the plight of the club, etc. Back then they were always likely to get CL football whereas now they've finished outside of the top four for the first time in Wenger's reign. They are miles behind Chelsea and Spurs and the Manc clubs have top class managers with a lot of financial power. They are in real danger of getting left behind so now more than ever losing their best player would be suicidal.
 
No way arsenal will sell him to city. He would have to go the lewandowski way if he is really hell bent on city. With the backlash over wenger and the club, it's not the same situation now. Selling to any PL ckub, even to Brighton could cause DT and the group to create more wenger out posters

We have even less of a chance to sign him. People saying we should try are deluded if they think wenger will sell to mourinho. Even when we were looking to buy debuchy, wenger refused to sanction the deal and that's with lvg in charge. With mourinho in the mix, there's a bigger chance of Liverpool selling us Coutinhoz
 
An Irish Red said:
If they get Sanchez they'll win the league comfortably. We should be all over this like; a talented, creative, dribbling machine, gamechanger is what we've needed for years.

I honestly think he's worth paying whatever it takes even if it means dwarfing existing offers.
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They didn't have any problems with scoring goals. One more attacking player won't make much of a difference. The real problems were in defense and at the goal.
 
I'd actually be ok with doubling whatever City offer, he would make that much of a difference to us.
 
fergosaurus said:
I think the situation now is different though. There is a lot more unrest about Wenger and the plight of the club, etc. Back then they were always likely to get CL football whereas now they've finished outside of the top four for the first time in Wenger's reign. They are miles behind Chelsea and Spurs and the Manc clubs have top class managers with a lot of financial power. They are in real danger of getting left behind so now more than ever losing their best player would be suicidal.
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Yeah, what you are saying makes logical sense. I am just not sure Wenger will let someone stay through the year and create a toxic environment around the club. Specially someone who has questioned the ambition of the club and made it clear that he has lost confidence in the club winning anything meaningful in the near future.

I would think Wenger would want Sanchez and Ozil far from his kids. Also, there is no way they can afford their wages without getting phone calls from the other agents so I would be highly surprised if both of them remain with the club.
 
Adam-Utd said:
Sanchez is nowhere near as good on the right wing, so he won't be taking Sterling's place, that's going to be B.Silva

IMO if they did try to fit them all in it would look a bit like this

Kompany/Stones/Kolarov

Walker/Gundogan/De Bruyne/Sane
Silva Jesus Sanchez

A very scary attacking line up, if they can keep the ball they could be very hard to beat. Playing hard against them and disrupting there game would be paramount.
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De Bruyne won't fit in a midfield two like that. It just won't work and it is far too attacking. A nice problem for them to have, but there will be some sulky faces at City this year with all that talent.
 
Reynoldo said:
I'd actually be ok with doubling whatever City offer, he would make that much of a difference to us.
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He is atleast as good as Griezmann. If he had one more year on his contract, he would have been worth 100m pounds easy. I wouldn't mind a 70-80m pound bid. He may be in his last year but with too many clubs fishing around, that might be what it takes to sign him.
 
Subho611 said:
I doubt it though. Arsenal is always about financial sense - that's why they haven't really tried desperately for the title all these years. They sold RVP when he was in the last year of his contract.
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Economics of sports... balancing out wins and profits. Or something along those lines. I learned about this in college but I don't remember squat except that teams can focus on getting the most wins and/or the most profits and going for one might make the other worse off.

So in other words in this case arsenal going for profit might make them lose a couple more games thru the season

http://web.holycross.edu/RePEc/spe/GarciaSzymanski_Goal.pdf

"Abstract
In this paper we estimate the best responses of football clubs to the choices of other clubs in Spanish and English leagues over the period 1994-2004. We find that choices are more closely approximated by win maximization than by profit maximization in both the short term and the long term. We examine club characteristics that might explain variations in choices between Spanish clubs "
 
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Was it Pep that bought him at Barca too?
 
City's stockpiling of widemen continues. It's bordering on the ridiculous
 
Like everyone has mentioned if city get him thats it for every other premier league team. Sanchez will turn city into something else.
 
I'd be astonished if he goes to City. The backlash from Arsenal fans is the last thing Wenger and co. need to bring on themselves right now. As for Sanchez himself, unless he has some affinity for City and/or Pep, he's better off going abroad.
 
City mean business... but I have a hard time understanding how they're supposed to keep all of these players happy? How will they line up with all these offensive players... Sane, Hesus, Aguero, Silva x2, KDB, Sanchez and Sterling. 8 players for 4 positions... unless Pep thinks KDB can play in a two man midfield along Yaya, Fernando or Fernandinho. If so I think they'll be weak defensively and easily countered. But the offense will be truly scary
 
If he goes to City it will be even sweeter to see the massives achieving nothing next season :cool:

Wenger would make a huge mistake if he sells him to a Premier League team.
 
Red Star One said:
If he goes to City it will be even sweeter to see the massives achieving nothing next season :cool:

Wenger would make a huge mistake if he sells him to a Premier League team.
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And the reality is Wenger has the upper hand here. He can clearly tell Sanchez that he will sell only to a foreign club. If he tries to stay one more year and go for free, he will be sent to the reserves for the whole season. With World Cup next year, no player would risk not playing an entire season.
 
abhayselvan said:
And the reality is Wenger has the upper hand here. He can clearly tell Sanchez that he will sell only to a foreign club. If he tries to stay one more year and go for free, he will be sent to the reserves for the whole season. With World Cup next year, no player would risk not playing an entire season.
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I don't think Wenger would have balls to keep Alexis in the reserves for the whole season, especially with the fans and fact that Sanchez is so much above other Arsenal players... but I still think Alexis will end up outside Premier League
 
Am I the only would that would give him the 7 shirt and play him as the ten? Make him the main man and not play him out wide where he has to chase the fullback up and down all day.
 
Red Star One said:
I don't think Wenger would have balls to keep Alexis in the reserves for the whole season, especially with the fans and fact that Sanchez is so much above other Arsenal players... but I still think Alexis will end up outside Premier League
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He has to. Else this scenario will keep repeating over and over. How many top players have moved to other PL clubs from Arsenal. None of the other big teams let this happen. Ashley Cole, Adebayor, Clichy, Nasri, Sagna, RVP. Then you have players like Henry, Fabregas and Song that left to Barca. Wenger should be credited for keeping the team fighting despite losing his best players every so often but he has to draw the line somewhere. They will never compete for the league if they can't keep hold of their best players.

notcool said:
Am I the only would that would give him the 7 shirt and play him as the ten? Make him the main man and not play him out wide where he has to chase the fullback up and down all day.
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I agree and so does Pep! He'll be deadly in a free role at the centre of the pitch.
 
abhayselvan said:
They will never compete for the league if they can't keep hold of their best players.
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You need brains and a quality to introspect within the philosophy to compete for the league and win it. Which arsene wenger is too stubborn to do and remains stuck in his old principles which are no longer revelant which leads to failure again and again and again. It would be hillarious to think that arsenal board still think they can continue on with the same old and expect different results. As far as letting go of best players is concerned than they should be forced to honour the contracts and let them walk for free if the board really cares about the titles and not the money which a club like arsenal have plenty.
 
Funny enough, I disagree with everyone on here. If Sanchez stays in the PL, I can only see Wenger selling him to City on the grounds their frontline is immense anyway and, best case, it has a negative impact on their morale (also bite a chunk into funds available for the defenders and midfielders City actually need).

Maybe Chelsea if Real go for Hazard. Same same (not really).

Never us.

Ultimately the problem is Bayern probably doesn't want to meet his wages. PSG is Wenger's best bet.
 
prtk0811 said:
Why is that so?
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1. Mourinho
2. RvP precedent
3. We would improve the most
4. They aren't competing for the title but 4th, neither City nor Chelsea are their direct rivals there as far as the table says (objective criterion)
 
abhayselvan said:
And the reality is Wenger has the upper hand here. He can clearly tell Sanchez that he will sell only to a foreign club. If he tries to stay one more year and go for free, he will be sent to the reserves for the whole season. With World Cup next year, no player would risk not playing an entire season.
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Not a chance they put Sanchez in the reserves for a season. I've seen people mention things like this for years and it's never a viable option. If he stayed for a year they'd get more backlash not playing him than playing him - hed be going free either way.
 
antohan said:
1. Mourinho
2. RvP precedent
3. We would improve the most
4. They aren't competing for the title but 4th, neither City nor Chelsea are their direct rivals there as far as the table says (objective criterion)
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1 Mourinho's past should never haunt mourinho's present. He is now a united manager and united have always had good relations with arsenal atleast and respect wenger. Why should mourinho's baggage be loaded on to united.

2 Rvp precedent makes no sense now he is gone and we sold them welbeck one our our own local boy, which they could not capitalize on themselves. And sanchez could be the next one anywhere he goes

3 It applies to others as well.

4 Table changes every year, Dont think with this mentality they are helping themselves one bit.
 
I would love to have him here :drool::drool:, so I would not mind us putting in a cheeky bid.
 
We need to be all over Sanchez since Griezmann isn't coming. He would be amazing with Morata and Mhikitaryan or if we played a 4-2-3-1, he would be great behind Morata. We should throw 55M for him. He could also lead the line when Morata isn't available. Having Rashford, Morata and Sanchez as our strikers would be great options.
 
An Irish Red said:
If they get Sanchez they'll win the league comfortably. We should be all over this like; a talented, creative, dribbling machine, gamechanger is what we've needed for years.

I honestly think he's worth paying whatever it takes even if it means dwarfing existing offers.
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Not true. The league will be tight for the foreseeable future.
 
An Irish Red said:
If they get Sanchez they'll win the league comfortably. We should be all over this like; a talented, creative, dribbling machine, gamechanger is what we've needed for years.

I honestly think he's worth paying whatever it takes even if it means dwarfing existing offers.
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I agree. We cannot let him end up at City. If he's open to a move to City, it means he is willing to live in Manchester, so United need to step in and offer him Zlatan's 250k wage and throw £60m at Arsenal.
 
The figures quoted here for Sanchez aren't enough. I'd happily break the record again for him, he would instantly be our best player
 
If City get him, their offensive unit goes from crazy good to... crazy good. Ultimately they can only field 11 players and for me their defence is still a black mark on their team.
 
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