Alexis Sanchez | Staying at Arsenal after City deal falls apart

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TZ (Munich), Bild...not Kicker yet, but they only say something when it's done already, they are the reuters of football news outlets. Marca ran the story last week as well, too much smoke for there not being a fire.

Okay, good for you I suppose.
 
Is it? I don't understand the purpose to be honest. Well, didn't when Pep went for Thiago as well. And that's one of the few lasting impacts that guy had.

James and Isco played their best football under Ancelotti IMO. I'd actually love to have either or both at United, if I'm being honest.
 
Is it? I don't understand the purpose to be honest. Well, didn't when Pep went for Thiago as well. And that's one of the few lasting impacts that guy had.
Bayern has only one creative midfielder so another one couldn't hurt. Whether it's James, Isco or somebody else... Who knows?
 
If they sell Sanchez to Chelsea then I think they need to stop claiming to be the biggest club in London
 
Hopefully Arsenal will insist that he can't move to a rival. If he hands in a transfer request, i think they will buckle though.
 
Hopefully Arsenal will insist that he can't move to a rival. If he hands in a transfer request, i think they will buckle though.
Keep Wenger and sell Sanchez to Chelsea. Not sure how the arsenal fans are going to cope with this
 
If they sign Sanchez it will probably mean Hazard will move on
Maybe next summer or sometime in the future. Definitely not this summer. They'll spend at least 1 season together in a Chelsea shirt at the very least. That is of course if this Sanchez transfer does happen.
 
IF he really wants to go there, he will push and hand in a TR. Then the deal happens. No point trying to convince ourselves any different

Wanting to remain in London gives Chelsea a monumental edge over most.
 
I think it's more likely Costa would move on, Chelsea have played some of their best football without him so Sanchez could easily play up front with Hazard and Pedro.
 
I think it's more likely Costa would move on, Chelsea have played some of their best football without him so Sanchez could easily play up front with Hazard and Pedro.
I would be quite shocked if Costa is there next year. I think Chelsea could well end up with Hazard and Sanchez either side of Lukaku tbh
 
Hazard will not being go anywhere.

We have to throw the bank at Sanchez if we have a chance. Sounds like he is set on staying in London though.
 
He'll go to Chelsea, Arsenal don't have the bottle or resources to stop him. They're the Dortmund of England.
 
He'll go to Chelsea, Arsenal don't have the bottle or resources to stop him. They're the Dortmund of England.
What's got to be frustrating as an Arsenal fan is that they're not that far away. They just need the right manager and the right mentality in their board (or a new board). I would be really frustrated if we were stuck in a limbo of not being good enough to win the title but not bad enough to be out of Europe for more than a decade. As much as I hate the lot, as a football fan, you'd have to sympathize with them and say something's got to change. It reeks of the greed that's eating away at football these days with club executives increasingly being only concerned with profits rather than trophies. Hopefully that mentality never creeps in at Chelsea.
 
Always find those types of stories funny. Like, how could they possibly know that Sanchez "put us at the top of his list?"

Anyways, I hope there's some fire to go along with this smoke. Break the bank and make a serious statement of intent. Don't see things like Crystal Palace yesterday happening with Sanchez in our side. We utterly dominated that game and it felt like we had about 25 shots at goal but couldn't score. We need more clinical finishers in our team.
 
Always find those types of stories funny. Like, how could they possibly know that Sanchez "put us at the top of his list?"

Anyways, I hope there's some fire to go along with this smoke. Break the bank and make a serious statement of intent. Don't see things like Crystal Palace yesterday happening with Sanchez in our side. We utterly dominated that game and it felt like we had about 25 shots at goal but couldn't score. We need more clinical finishers in our team.
We missed Pedro up front. He did a decent job at RWB but we could have used his threat in the box, especially considering how ruthless his finishing has been this season. Reckon he'd have put one away.

I'd get rid of Sanchez very early in the summer if I were Wenger though. Wouldn't want to have another Fabregas to Barca type long, drawn out summer. Make the deal quickly, whether to Chelsea or abroad. Hopefully to Chelsea.
 
Always find those types of stories funny. Like, how could they possibly know that Sanchez "put us at the top of his list?"

Anyways, I hope there's some fire to go along with this smoke. Break the bank and make a serious statement of intent. Don't see things like Crystal Palace yesterday happening with Sanchez in our side. We utterly dominated that game and it felt like we had about 25 shots at goal but couldn't score. We need more clinical finishers in our team.

Try being a United fan
 
Try being a United fan
Yeah, I now know your pain. All of the things you guys have been complaining about all season happened to us. Keeper having his game of the season, Sakho playing his best game of the season, Zaha shot going through 3 sets of legs and in the bottom corner, lucky deflection takes the ball directly into Benteke's feet for a simple finish. Annoying as feck.

Just the thought of 2 unplayable attacking players in Hazard & Sanchez in the same team is mouthwatering.
 
What's got to be frustrating as an Arsenal fan is that they're not that far away. They just need the right manager and the right mentality in their board (or a new board). I would be really frustrated if we were stuck in a limbo of not being good enough to win the title but not bad enough to be out of Europe for more than a decade. As much as I hate the lot, as a football fan, you'd have to sympathize with them and say something's got to change. It reeks of the greed that's eating away at football these days with club executives increasingly being only concerned with profits rather than trophies. Hopefully that mentality never creeps in at Chelsea.

Ya, managers and players are replaceable but having shite owners who don't give a feck about the club is one of the worst things that could happen to a club. For all the rubbish United fans give the Glazers, at least they're willing to allocate the resources and finances needed to remain relevant and compete. It's unavoidable though, football isn't a sport anymore, it's a business and it's only understandable greedy owners would be looking to fill their pockets through it.
 
How does he compare to others at his age? It could be concerning. Will he drop off a cliff once he hits 30? He's a physical freak for the most part, but the tweet seems to make it sound like an incredible toll of games. I'll try see what I find.

Edit: eh. First two I found was Ozil at the same age on around 550, and Fabregas a year older at 686. Miki falls quite behind on 390. Di Maria 525.

Seems like he's on the higher side of players his age.


That depends on how you paint it. Which of these are true?;

- Fitter players are injured less and play more games
- Playing more games shortens a players career
- Getting injured less frequently lengthens a players career
- Players that get injured once a season and play 10 fewer games each year have longer careers

There are truly no blanket rules for footballers. Sanchez could be Giggs/Maldini/Lampard and have a huge peak that stretches into his mid thirties. Or he could be more like Rooney/Ferdinand and have his performance level drop off a cliff on a random day.
 
TBF though, he's played a feck load of football matches in his career and his style of football is all about explosiveness, I wouldn't be surprised if his fall from grace is sooner than some expect. I don't think he will ever cut it as a more reserved, patient footballer, once that does happen. He runs his bollocks off every game, that takes a lot out of players over the span of a whole career.
 
Hopefully we can get a good 3-4 seasons out of him if he does sign for Chelsea. Can't see him being top drawer at 33.
 
So, Sanchez and Rom going to Chelsea in same window...?

Nah. It'll be one or the other, as they'll both wanna be starting upfront (with Costa leaving).

They could be Alexis on the left or right, Lukaku up front and Hazard through the middle
 
So, Sanchez and Rom going to Chelsea in same window...?

Nah. It'll be one or the other, as they'll both wanna be starting upfront (with Costa leaving).
CF isn't his natural position. He's just so good as a finisher and with his runs that he can also play there. He's hardly going to be competing with Zlatan if United signed him for example. He'll play at RF and bench Pedro. I hope it happens.
 
That depends on how you paint it. Which of these are true?;

- Fitter players are injured less and play more games
- Playing more games shortens a players career
- Getting injured less frequently lengthens a players career
- Players that get injured once a season and play 10 fewer games each year have longer careers

There are truly no blanket rules for footballers. Sanchez could be Giggs/Maldini/Lampard and have a huge peak that stretches into his mid thirties. Or he could be more like Rooney/Ferdinand and have his performance level drop off a cliff on a random day.

Rio fecked his back, that affected his mobility. Silly comment to class Rio with Rooney. Rio was a very professional sportsman and extended his career to manage his back injury due to his professionalism. Rio was still playing at 35.
 
Rio fecked his back, that affected his mobility. Silly comment to class Rio with Rooney. Rio was a very professional sportsman and extended his career to manage his back injury due to his professionalism. Rio was still playing at 35.

Did you understand the overall point? If so, why take exception? Just sub in a player you feel is more relevant.

Rio was fabulous in our title winning season then awful in the next. The point remains he fell off. I wasn't offering a commentary on his injuries or professionalism. After Stam he's the best centre half we've ever had. Without question he's had the best career of any United centre half I've ever seen.
 
Did you understand the overall point? If so, why take exception? Just sub in a player you feel is more relevant.

Rio was fabulous in our title winning season then awful in the next. The point remains he fell off. I wasn't offering a commentary on his injuries or professionalism. After Stam he's the best centre half we've ever had. Without question he's had the best career of any United centre half I've ever seen.

You fuzz your point when classing, Rooney, who was in his prime in his mid to early 20's. With Rio was in his prime into his 30's (PFA team of the year 2012/13), had it not been for his injury he could probably still be playing now at some level.
Not sure how I took exception, simply pointing out an issue I did not agree with.
 
You fuzz your point when classing, Rooney, who was in his prime in his mid to early 20's. With Rio was in his prime into his 30's (PFA team of the year 2012/13), had it not been for his injury he could probably still be playing now at some level.
Not sure how I took exception, simply pointing out an issue I did not agree with.

Ok, so you did miss the overall point.

The original post was in response to someone asking if they expected Sanchez to fall off a cliff in terms of performance because he's played a lot of football by the age of 28. I pointed out that Sanchez may be like Giggs, Maldini, Lampard, Totti in terms of their value to a team fading slowly. Or as with Rooney or Rio who were crucial to top sides, then almost immediately a shadow of their former selves.

All players are different. An injury may cause an abrupt halt to a players career (As with Rio), or a sudden lack of 'X' (as with Rooney) may have the same effect.

To stay on topic, Sanchez looks to be naturally fit and athletic. Like Ronaldo, Robben, Alves, Evra. I'd absolutely expect him to be playing top level football in another 5 years so I don't think there's any gamble in anyone signing him at 28 years of age.
 
Future scenario perhaps like this (in US$) for Chelsea in the next summer :

Hazard to Real Madrid, Costa to China ==> I imagine US$ 150- 200 millions for both of them....also releasing big wages players

Buy Lukaku ==> US$ 100 millions

Buy Sanchez ==> US$ 40 millions

Clean some dead woods : Terry, Cahill, Ivanovic ==> This trio still can play in massive wages at Europe or China ==> US$ 30 millions + also releasing big wages players

I predict they can also sell Cesc or Pedro ==> US$ 20-30 millions + also releasing big wages players

So without consuming yearly budget transfer, Chelsea perhaps still have US$ 40-50 millions...added by their yearly budget minimal around US$ 50 million...after having Lukaku and Sanchez, they still have US$ 100 millions to spend...

Scary....I don't even think Lukaku will be released by Everton more than US$ 50 millions...
 
Future scenario perhaps like this (in US$) for Chelsea in the next summer :

Hazard to Real Madrid, Costa to China ==> I imagine US$ 150- 200 millions for both of them....also releasing big wages players

Buy Lukaku ==> US$ 100 millions

Buy Sanchez ==> US$ 40 millions

Clean some dead woods : Terry, Cahill, Ivanovic ==> This trio still can play in massive wages at Europe or China ==> US$ 30 millions + also releasing big wages players

I predict they can also sell Cesc or Pedro ==> US$ 20-30 millions + also releasing big wages players

So without consuming yearly budget transfer, Chelsea perhaps still have US$ 40-50 millions...added by their yearly budget minimal around US$ 50 million...after having Lukaku and Sanchez, they still have US$ 100 millions to spend...

Scary....I don't even think Lukaku will be released by Everton more than US$ 50 millions...
Hazard isn't going to Madrid so that's not happening. But Costa's leaving so there's money from that. We still have money from the Oscar sale as well. Also, no chance we buy fecking Lukaku for 100m. If they ask for more than 60, they can do one.
 
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