Only pull Chelsea have and will ever have over United is the London lifestyle.
Alexis Sanchez | Staying at Arsenal after City deal falls apart
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Yeah, right.
Ibra - A 35 year old on 250K a week. I would rather keep Costa
Pogba - 90mn for a guy who doesnt affect most games. I would rather get Kante.
Mkhi - We never were in for him and never needed him.
Mata - Seriously?
Indeed, Chelsea have a good season and they're suddenly the best club in the world, Hemil and BlueCelery are the worst for it.
Quite annoying because we mostly have great Chelsea fans on here and with us out of the race I wouldn't mind them winning it. These two guys are their equivalent of Glaston and Sirhenrypercy though. Duffer better come in here and sort them out.
Agreed, most of the Chelsea fans are great here.
Oooh look at you being all snarky
If you actually believe that, rather than being on the wind up, you're massively deluded there.
The only thing that would stop Sanchez coming to us if we're in the champions league, would be Wenger/Arsenal refusing it.
PSG and you wouldn't stop us.
Bayern of course could.
Hah.
Luke Shaw.
What are you talking about? United were taken over and Under Sir Alex we didn't spend big and were still winning while Chelsea with city spent the money we weren't prepared too because they had rich owners. You can only go somewhere if it's an option. We've only started spending again last few years and that puts us back in it. Hazard? The guy probably would have come to United if Chelsea didn't win the champions league that year. Can't think of anything else.
It's a pretty big pull tbf
Not as big as much higher wages though. Can see him going to PSG if they're interested
Lol.
I think you've all taken the bait, unless Hemil is actually 13 years old, there's no way thats a genuine opinion.
Just think he's very condescending.
Seeing as Sanchez wants trophies/win things plus we just won our first of the season, I like him as a striker and could be an option if Ibra does go/Arsenal are selling
What are you basing that on?
Since 2004, we have signed a long list of players who actually chose Chelsea over United.
Wasn't that due to higher wages offered?
But that was due to transfer fees, wages and agent fees. Chelsea don't have that financial advantage anymore
Well that's surely a big part of what makes a club attractive to players.
What city you work in is a big factor for a lot of people when choosing a job, to be fair.
This whole my club is more attractive than yours is one of the most useless dick swinging contests out there though that's filled with weird over analysis of everything.
Yeah but they were throwing ridicilious amounts of money left and right since the Abramovic takeover. Do you think if back then both Utd and Chelsea offered the same wages to those players they'd pick Chelsea over Utd?
I thought City and United over the past several years have completely debunked the mythically amazing pull of London?
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But the ridiculous money definitely plays a role. Hazard found them to be the more attractive club for that reason. It's certainly helped us post SAF as well.
I don't think he was arguing they're a more attractive option due to their great history or tradition.
I don't think it's that controversial an opinion. Money is first and foremost but Hazard has turned down City and I think United for Chelsea. Fabregas wouldn't consider moving to a none London club. They are being a little more constrained with finances now though so United will probably outbid them more often than not.
Didn't Hazard turn down City and United because they didn't pay 7 Million agent fee?
I think Hazard turned us down because SAF refused to pay his agent a hefty commission, as far as i recall anyway.
But yeah, it's not as outlandish to think that there are some players who would turn us down to play for Chelsea.
They're a very successful club over the past decade or 2, who can offer similar wages, London, competing for trophies, albeit not with the history of United - but that doesn't matter to everyone.
I'm not sure and much goes on behind closed doors. I remember when Wenger was asked why he hadn't bid for Diego Costa he replied that the total cost of the Costa deal was 100 million IIR and unfeesable despite the transfer fee being around 25m. I imagine that includes wages over 4-5 years but that plus transfer fee still isn't anywhere near 100m.
That's fair enough. Wasn't it revealed after the event that Mourinho contacted Kante? Now I'm not saying you couldn't get players that Chelsea can't but it works both ways depending on a players preferences and what they're promised.
Absolutely.
Yeah I'm not sure what the Kante story was, but I do recall having read that Mourinho tried to contact him, but he'd maybe already given his word or decided to join Chelsea. Either way, you'll win some, and you'll lose some.
Our lack of success and top earnings have also resulted in us having to offer stupid money for some players, signed on big wages, and then taking losses on them because it hasn't worked out. Thankfully JM seems to have hit the jackpot with his signings thus far.
United refused to pay the agent fees for Hazard, SAF pretty much said that in a press conference.
Mourinho said he gave Woodward 3 options for every positions we wanted. I'd guess Kante would be 2nd or 3rd choice after Pogba and once it's likely we could get Pogba we would never take Kante option seriously. He wanted 4 positions, a striker (Ibra), a creative (Mhiki), midfield (no. 1 is Pogba) and a defender (Baily). These are pretty clear from his pre-season interview.
Chelsea is more attractive than us to some players because of their location. But to say in absolute term that Chelsea is more attractive than us now is very far from the truth.
Kante and Pogba play in different positions pretty much, 1 is a creative midfielder the other a box to box defensive midfielder.
They all play in midfield. If we sign Kante we could just push Herrera (who used to play as a 10) to play in Pogba role. Now we get Pogba we adapt Herrera to be more defensive.
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Where was the pull of London when Arsenal lost so many players to Manchester?
Or when Wenger 'nearly' signed all thse stars from City and United but missed out?
Or when Wenger 'nearly' signed all thse stars from City and United but missed out?
So, those chose United over Bayern, Chelsea and PSG?
None of them were wanted by any of the aforementioned clubs. Ibra is 35 and all of them have better options. Pogba was just some insane money toy which was always only available to the ones willing to pay that, Mhiki is a second rate player none of the clubs needed and Mata was just thrown away by one of the clubs mentioned.
You should really take of those pink glasses my friend, the world has changed.
As on topic, still reckon we will buy him. We have a tendency of buying guys we have played against (it's basically the only scouting we seem to do sometimes...) and we can offer immediate success on all levels, while also guaranteeing him a role as a top dog at one of Europes finest clubs.
He has a mate from the NT here. We can match everyones wages.
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