Alejandro Garnacho (out) | Chelsea make enquiries

Moriarty said:
Imagine selling him at all. Scored a goal in the FA Cup final. Only 20. Bags of talent. Just needs the right coach to take him in hand and get the best out of him. Selling our young academy lads who have made it to the first team is madness. Unless Garnacho is demanding a transfer. we need to be hanging on to him and Mainoo. A curse on the Glazer house for bringing us to this sorry state of affairs.
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Agreed. It’s fecking upsetting that we’re even considering selling him. feck the Glazers for their financial crimes against the club.
 
Selling him to Chelsea would sting, even if the fee is good.

It's hard to say if it's the 'correct' decision, as we don't know if he'll live up to the hype. But even if it does prove to be the right decision, we're doing it for the wrong reasons.
 
MikeUpNorth said:
Selling him to Chelsea would sting, even if the fee is good.

It's hard to say if it's the 'correct' decision, as we don't know if he'll live up to the hype. But even if it does prove to be the right decision, we're doing it for the wrong reasons.
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Reason 1: Let an academy prospect who will be pure profit go while his value is high, so we can reinvest that money into more suitable squad options

Seems pretty valid. Is there another 'wrong' reason we'd sell him?
 
Not thrilled selling him to Chelsea unless for serious money. And my hunch is it will fall below that judging off the figures being spoken about recently.
 
AnotherLondonManc said:
Reason 1: Let an academy prospect who will be pure profit go while his value is high, so we can reinvest that money into more suitable squad options

Seems pretty valid. Is there another 'wrong' reason we'd sell him?
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If we weren't in a financial hole, the only reason to sell a top rated youngster would be if we thought he wouldn't make the grade or had a bad attitude.

I'm not saying it's a bad decision to sell — from a hard-nosed business perspective — if we get £60m+ but it's a bit hard to swallow from a club pride point-of-view.
 
I am very happy to see him leave, not only financially it will make sense for us, plus i strongly believe that this is the chance for us to get one back on Chelsea, as they have sold us duds in Matic (old) and Mount (injury prone). Hopefully we get around 65 to 70M pounds.
 
Chelsea for 80m upwards. Anything else would be stupid. To Napoli I'd accept the 70m tag he apparently has.

edit: if Mount with a year left on his contract was worth 60m, we really have to stay stubborn on this one.
 
I don't understand why we would think about selling Garnacho, his potential may have stalled , temporarily I hope, but he's still better than a lot of the players we have. If the reason is purely financial and we have to sell make it to a team outside the premier. No sense helping Chelsea wharpt ever the price.
 
ThanksBoss26 said:
Not thrilled selling him to Chelsea unless for serious money. And my hunch is it will fall below that judging off the figures being spoken about recently.
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They could just be having a laugh at our expense. Make a high offer so we rubbish any deal with Napoli, and then stall for 10 days and so we're stuck with him and cannot strengthen
 
Not fussed at all if this happens or not but musing:

Garnacho > Chelsea £60m
Nkunku > Utd £50m

Utd bank £60m for PSR and only £10m cost per season for Nkunku

Chelsea sell Nkunku and make a small book profit
 
MikeUpNorth said:
If we weren't in a financial hole, the only reason to sell a top rated youngster would be if we thought he wouldn't make the grade or had a bad attitude.
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I honestly think the club has its doubts about him beyond how he will fit into Amorim’s system.

Firstly I wonder if he’s long been judged to have a questionable attitude. There’s been a handful of things made public, under both ten Hag and more recently with Amorim. The matters have been resolved but how many have not been made public?

Secondly, I’m not convinced he sees us as a long term option for him. We could tie him down with a fat contract but if we have doubts over his attitude do we want another Rashford scenario? If we are going to sell him in the future, why wait until he holds the power, it’s a good move to sell him now on our terms if that is the case.

It’s speculation and hypothetical so don’t come at me with all the character defence and all that. I just think this goes beyond us needing to raise cash, I think the club is selling because it’s the right time for the club.
 
Paul778 said:
They could just be having a laugh at our expense. Make a high offer so we rubbish any deal with Napoli, and then stall for 10 days and so we're stuck with him and cannot strengthen
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Football clubs don’t operate like this
 
We need another transfer ban, honestly. For our own good.
 
I think people need to accept that these talks wouldn't be happening at all if he wasn't at least partially pushing for the move.

He's not starting, doesn't have a clear role in Amorim's system, and doesn't appear to want to try and adapt his game for it. Which is a shame, but it probably goes against parts of his game he is actually very good at.

He will do very well wherever he ends up, as long as they play to his strengths. We certainly shouldn't sell on the cheap
 
Pexbo said:
I honestly think the club has its doubts about him beyond how he will fit into Amorim’s system.

Firstly I wonder if he’s long been judged to have a questionable attitude. There’s been a handful of things made public, under both ten Hag and more recently with Amorim. The matters have been resolved but how many have not been made public?

Secondly, I’m not convinced he sees us as a long term option for him. We could tie him down with a fat contract but if we have doubts over his attitude do we want another Rashford scenario? If we are going to sell him in the future, why wait until he holds the power, it’s a good move to sell him now on our terms if that is the case.

It’s speculation and hypothetical so don’t come at me with all the character defence and all that. I just think this goes beyond us needing to raise cash, I think the club is selling because it’s the right time for the club.
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I agree with this post.

Interestingly, you mention his long term goal, I think that if he ever became good enough to play for Madrid, he will push that move and if he isn't then why not sell him now?

If we are getting good money, what is the point of holding onto a potential that does not suit the system?

IMO it is better to get rid of a player that is valuable at the moment, which gets us in the green with PSR, allowing us room to buy players that can suit the managers system.

We can keep him because fans think he is too talented to sale and we will end up leaving our manager short of players he needs, which will end up in him getting the sack.
 
Noodle said:
Not fussed at all if this happens or not but musing:

Garnacho > Chelsea £60m
Nkunku > Utd £50m

Utd bank £60m for PSR and only £10m cost per season for Nkunku

Chelsea sell Nkunku and make a small book profit
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No thanks. Nkunku hasn't shown anywhere near enough in English football, has had injury problems, and is 27. That's way too much money to be paying for a player that Chelsea seem to be actively trying to get rid of.

He might better fit the current system than Garnacho does, but I hope the club have learned from the Mount deal and stay well clear unless it's a loan + option sort of deal.
 
Noodle said:
Not fussed at all if this happens or not but musing:

Garnacho > Chelsea £60m
Nkunku > Utd £50m

Utd bank £60m for PSR and only £10m cost per season for Nkunku

Chelsea sell Nkunku and make a small book profit
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We give you a home grown potential star and you send us an injury prone 27 year old confrence league superstar. Win win for everyone!

Why do Chelsea need another wide player? Such a weird fecking club. It'd be a sad day if they succeed with their batshit transfer strategy.
 
It certainly doesn't feel a great idea selling one of our few reasonable attackers, let alone one who at 20 can improve plenty.
However, we have essentially made his position redundant.

But maybe part of me feels we don't want to clear out all our wingers in case Amorim is done by the end of 2025 and the next manager like 99% of managers play a variant of 4-3-3
 
Never thought I’d see the day the club selling talented players to rival PL rivals. Absolute disgrace.

Would love to see the master plan around letting Garnacho and Antony go whilst Rashford is also possibly going/banished anyway

We’ve spent hundreds of millions on that attack and one of the only bright sparks a lad from the academy is getting sold….what a mess
 
Crimson King said:
No thanks. Nkunku hasn't shown anywhere near enough in English football, has had injury problems, and is 27. That's way too much money to be paying for a player that Chelsea seem to be actively trying to get rid of.

He might better fit the current system than Garnacho does, but I hope the club have learned from the Mount deal and stay well clear unless it's a loan + option sort of deal.
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Insanity said:
We give you a home grown potential star and you send us an injury prone 27 year old confrence league superstar. Win win for everyone!

Why do Chelsea need another wide player? Such a weird fecking club. It'd be a sad day if they succeed with their batshit transfer strategy.
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To be clear, Nkunku missed most of last season with bad injuries but has been fit this entire season I’m pretty sure. It’s just that Maresca doesn’t fancy him in his system for whatever reason. He’s neither a natural #9 or a natural winger so he doesn’t really have a place in our team.

He’s still our overall top scorer this season albeit nearly all of that is in the Conference League. He’s still a very good player hence why Bayern apparently really fancy him. Just not for our team, sadly.
 
Noodle said:
Not fussed at all if this happens or not but musing:

Garnacho > Chelsea £60m
Nkunku > Utd £50m

Utd bank £60m for PSR and only £10m cost per season for Nkunku

Chelsea sell Nkunku and make a small book profit
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If you think anybody is giving you £50m for Nkunku you may need to lie down for a while.
 
Absolutely vile if we sell him to them. feck right off with that.
 
If we don’t go on a proper shopping spree to finish the window if this sales happen I will be the most miffed I’ve been with this club in a long long time. Our attack is appalling.
 
Judas said:
If we don’t go on a proper shopping spree to finish the window if this sales happen I will be the most miffed I’ve been with this club in a long long time. Our attack is appalling.
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I think it's fairly likely to be the main reason we are selling him. He doesn't fit the current system but he's also not completely impatible, we can just get more players suited to the system as a result of his sale.
 
If we keep him, where does he fit in this system? He’s a winger, and out wide winger, and not a 10 or a WB. Could he be converted? Of course, but does he want to? If the offer is good enough it makes absolute sense to sell him.
 
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