Well he has 7 headed goals in the PL so he's won at least 7 by my count
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Pretty similar tbh.You think Garnacho is more technical than young Rashford? Goodness
Wouldn't have considered either shining examples of technically sound/solid players tbf. Much of a muchness.
He literally scored in his PL debut(?) against Arsenal and also scored a few headers in his 30 goal season under ETH. But its all moot now anyways as he's shown he hasn't got the required mentality.
You're not the only one.
No.
You think Garnacho is more technical than young Rashford? Goodness
Rashford has never been technically gifted. Like, ever
Ronaldo also had a far better physical level and was technically way ahead of Garnacho
Sharpe and Kanchelskis were much better than Garnacho is now.
Young Rashford was 100% technically better than Garnacho at a similar age. He just didn’t progress as expected.
Edit: would be sad to see him go as I think he definitely as the potential to be a forward who registers goals and assists in the double figures consistently in the right set up.
Edit: would be sad to see him go as I think he definitely as the potential to be a forward who registers goals and assists in the double figures consistently in the right set up.
I would be sad to see him go too, particularly as this could have been avoided had we not wasted so much under Ten Hag.
There is different types of technical ability though. His long range shots and cross field passing is a form of technical ability just as striking a volley or close dribbling is.
He’s not like Modric but he’s also not Adam Traoré.
I think in terms of when they broke into the scene
Adnan had the best overall package, then Rashford, and finally Garnacho. Garnacho though has the best goal threat out of the three, he seems like he's actually really hungry to score every time.
Garnacho reminds me of Sterling. Exciting in his early days under Rodgers but clearly 3rd fiddle behind Suarez and Gerrard.
Maybe he kicks on but it’s also possible his his best level is just poaching chances the way Sterling did at City.
Yet Garnacho has showed even less technical ability at the same age than him
Did everyone forgot Rashford regularly running the ball out of play in his early years?
Sure, and also sell the whole yoth team with it. We may get also decent money for the Busby statue
True!
He’s got 87 prem goals, so that’s 8% of his goals. In the CL 11.2% of all goals were headers last year, so he’s actually not that far behind the average. I might have to revise my statement a little.
https://theanalyst.com/2024/09/most-headed-goals-in-champions-league-history#:~:text=The%20highest%20proportion%20of%20headed,%2D21)%20coming%20that%20way.
To bring it back on topic, who the hell knows whether selling Garna will be a great or a terrible decision. With our recent history of holding on to players for far too long in mind, if not opposed to trying this route.
It’s less than 50% of what we spend each year. We do have it, the only question is how do we spend it effectively and that includes within PSR. This helps with the latter and that’s part of the reason he’s being sold.
I understand your point, just because of this doesn’t mean we have 250m to spend. It just so happens that we do spend that much, every year, and a whole more.
It’s not even a contest, pal. Garnacho has more goals this season than Januzaj has in his whole PL career. And even has more assists than the ‘more creative’ Januzaj.
There's deluded and then there's this.
Rashford has always had the technical ability to drive forward with the ball, straight out of bounds.
Januzaj may have been more technically gifted, but that's clearly only part of the equation. Garnacho has shown much much more for us, not even particularly close
He still does, that's the point progress isn't always linear.
He is nowhere near a Lamine Yamal, Diallo, Palmer level of ability. Heck I even think Rodrygo Mora at Porto is already better than him at 16/17.
United fans need to be objective and ignore him being a United youth product, imagine him a rival club player and then watch his performances. And then compare.
Januzaj was a better player but got too big for his boots and wanted a massive contract. Technically he had much better ability than Gernacho. But was a different type of attacker.
It is wild to me how many are ready to tight off Garnacho's potential at 20 but at the same time the narrative around Hojlund (a much more technically limited player) was that it was too early to judge him, at nearly 22.
I think even Hojlund is quite limited and I just don't see it with him. Our recruitment under Ten Hag has been horrendous.£600m and we have a worse squad than what Ole left.
If Garnacho has half the career Sterling has had he will be doing well.
Reading between the lines, and this is pure speculation, I think that United want to make a sale for PSR and that's either going to be Rashford off the books for the rest of the season or Garnacho. Either one of those presumably would put you in a stronger position for the summer market. So if Rashford goes, I think Garnacho will stay and vice versa.
Correct me if I am wrong, but Rashford loan doesn't really help with PSR than a Gernacho sale would. They both are not wing backs or No10's or No9's. They just don't fit and need to leave.
Agreed that Rashford loan doesn't help as much though it does get a significant wage (or a large percentage of it) off the books and also helps set up a sale in June. If they stayed Rashford can play as a CF and Garnacho is young and can be coached, he has certainly got better at getting back under Amorim and it doesn't take a huge amount to coach that into his game and the positioning that goes with it especially for such a talented player, unless of course he has the Paul Scholes tackling gene!
No, Januzaj flattered to deceive.
I lost count of how many shots he would have that were just wide. He couldnt get his shots on target even though he averaged 2.6 shots per 90 mins in 2 seasons for us. 1.4 off target and 0.5 on target in 14/15 which is awful, 0.9 off target and 0.7 on target in 13/14 which isnt so bad
in 22/23 Garnacho averaged 3.8 shots per 90 mins with 1.1 off target, 1.6 on target, 23/24 he averaged 3.5 shots per 90 with 1.1 off target and 1 on target, now 3.8 shots on average this season with 1.2 off target and 1.6 on target
After his first season where he played a bit more like a winger, he would receive the ball with just having a dribble and shooting in mind - a lot like Garnacho. And while technically he was better, the end result was a lot worse. He kept missing. Thats why he wasnt being picked to start and why after getting 4 goals in his first season, with 3 assists he couldnt repeat it. There was also some news that came out when we sold him that we were dissappointed in how he trained.
And then theres the fact that big clubs like Chelsea and Napoli want Garnacho for lots of money. Januzaj was sold for just under £7.2 million to Real Sociedad
In his first season he actually had the same goals and assists to mins as Garnacho last season. Every 234 mins they would score or get a goal in the league although Januzaj played less mins and got less goals and assists. After that first season he couldnt come close to repeating it
His first goal for the club was a header
Then he wasn't a better player, was he? He was better technically, but that is just one important attribute.
Januzaj had intelligence in his game for someone so young, and great weight in his passes.
Massively. Always felt the same. He didn’t live up to the early promise, though.
Scored a thumping header versus Leeds. You must remember this
Ignore the crappy music
But yeah for a forward who’s got height, you should be able to head a ball
He was definitely a better player.
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