Alejandro Garnacho (out) | Chelsea make enquiries
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
When dealing with Italian clubs then it very much is.
If we have to let one of Garna or Mainoo go I’d prefer to see Garna leave. Love him as a player but I think Mainoo has a much higher ceiling.
We got him for less than a million(?) from Atletico Madrid I think so in terms of business it’s certainly good from us, which is very rare.
We got him for less than a million(?) from Atletico Madrid I think so in terms of business it’s certainly good from us, which is very rare.
If you believe the £46m valuation it says we’re putting on him.
i love to picture these meetings. three hours of napoli going “42m” and us replying “65m” with a million added and dropped every 15 minutes.
I understand the sentiment however we can deal with the finances over the next 5 years more easily than we can deal with the finances this January where we are supposedly in a tight spot. Unfortunately INEOS are dealing with an absolute fuctercluck left by the Glazers we are going to have to kick some thing down the road and work very smartly over the next few years in order to try and get any sort of financial stability and sustainability back.
I rate both players but they both have issues they need to sort out to kick on to being great players.
If we need money this badly then Mainoo should be seen in the same light and sold for £50m if anyone is interested.
We could then bring in 6 players and we’ll be great again!
If we sold Mainoo for £50m I think I’d cry, that first season he had with us was nothing short of spectacular for a guy of his age.. being English as well that definitely adds some tax.
I am coming around to this view as well. Amad has that star quality about him - close ball control, great finishing under pressure, and ability to read games in addition to a dogged determination to keep going for 90 minutes and the kind of will to win you need for a forward at a big club.
Garnacho, for all this talent, has been in the vein of Rashford: the ability to produce the sublime occasionally but lacking somewhat in game intelligence. His celebrations have also been a concern to me, a little too self aware for a guy who still has it all to achieve in the game. You are not Ronaldo yet, mate. Having said that, I have seen him try to apply himself recently for the better of the team in a way I have never seen Rashford do; he has been trying to pick the right pass under Amorim.
In "normal" times, I would be all for keeping him to see if he can iron out the selfish parts of his game, develop an ability to hold the ball under pressure, and become more consistent. But if Sky are right about United being able to spend 150m+ if we sell Garnacho, then it is time to say goodbye and good luck.
I can't believe we have been reduced to selling our more promising players. The hits keep coming while supporting this club. I will be the annoying poster who will bump his thread every time he beats his man (which won't be many times considering this season).
I pitty the People who want to sell Garancho becasue it "means 250 milion in PSR". To spend 250 million you need to have it first.
That's great and all from a theoretical accounting standpoint, but we don't have the actual money to spend.
Games
You don't think the pricetag would be double if we were the buying club?
Garnacho has done lot more than Hojlund and we paid 75m for Hojlund. Lot of people defended the awful decision in that topic too. "young", "bag of talents", "most exciting player of this generation" "we'll get 10 years of him" etc....
I'm not against selling him, but If INEOS cave for anything less than 60m, they are fecking idiots like previous CEOs, simple as.
We don't have to sell.
That reflects more on our incompetence rather than on the market
Probably
Seems the same old recycled news everyday just wish we would hurry up and sell him and get it over and done with or come up and say he's staying, nothing worse than a long dragged out transfer saga
Cunha/Mbuemo and Osimhen, however know that's highly unrealistic in this window
Because Adeyemi would be cheaper, good joke!
Hope we don't budge from our position.
Hope we don't budge from our position.
Most of those were against Barnsley?
He's a good player, unfortunately looks like he's not arsed trying to do better.
That shot from the angle on Sunday says a lot about his intelligence and mentality on the pitch.
I wouldn't be averse to selling him, because recently I've been watching him more closely and while young players have ups and downs in terms if performance levels. There's things I notice in how he plays, ball control, passing, movement etc. I'm at a stage now where I don't see him ever becoming a top top player and cashing in now kind of makes sense.
Yeah no lowering price just to suit them
Crazy that we consider selling him. Still one of our more productive player
It's a very low bar.
Not really. It’s literally just explaining the impact the transaction has on the PSR rules specifically. It is not intimidating anything else from a financial perspective.
It's due to our PSR situation, direct your frustration at the people who wasted £700m
And who do we replace him with?
It is, since you'd have to sell again in a year to cover the rolling PSR impact.
Sell or find the revenue elsewhere.
Are you sure about that?
Yes, that's how it works.
Yes, that's how it works. The cost of any incoming transfer is the same, you just shift/spread out the timing when it impacts.
So you can only cover the costs by selling, and not from qualifying for Europe/champions league/other revenue sources etc?
A sad indictment of our present situation
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and it appears for less than 70 million and will be even more daft if sold to another PL club whom you hope to compete for top 4/5 places in the seasons ahead.
Ruben when asked refused to answer the question and instead said the focus is on the Rangers game, will be interesting to see will Garnacho feature. it's a important game (need to finish in the top eight in the group) and Garnacho had two big goal involvements against Arsenal,Liverpool away recently.
Sure, higher income would cover them as well! Just a bit of a risky calculation looking at our current state
hope we smash them in the championship next year to shut him up.