Alejandro Garnacho (out) | Chelsea make enquiries

Exactly what is it that people see in Garnacho? He makes poor decisions over and over again, he's so infuriating to watch.
 
Is it just me that thinks Januzaj been criminally underrated and Garnacho overrated? I'm yet to see Garnacho display that level of technical refinement, creativity and I'd even say dribbling(not trying to beat them with pace but with skill) in his game.


It's not just you, many see the same as you.
 
£60 million for a 20 year old who's not a first team regular at the moment and has a lot of flaws in his game, would be a decent offer, and would hopefully allow us strengthen in other areas. Garna is good but he's not THAT good.

I think sometimes our judgement is skewed by the ridiculous prices we've paid for players over the past number of years.

The caveat would be that the club should be in a position to bring players in should a deal go through. And not sell to Chelsea either!
 
£60 million for a 20 year old who's not a first team regular at the moment and has a lot of flaws in his game, would be a decent offer, and would hopefully allow us strengthen in other areas. Garna is good but he's not THAT good.

I think sometimes our judgement is skewed by the ridiculous prices we've paid for players over the past number of years.

The caveat would be that the club should be in a position to bring players in should a deal go through. And not sell to Chelsea either!
TBH anyone willing to pay the 60m, would take the money and run a mile.
 
They have genuinely got recruitment right and also over a decade of success to mask it
Not lately they haven’t. Their squad is considerably worse than it was a few years ago. Doku, Savinho, Nunes, re-signing Gundogan have all been poor pieces of business.
 
Exactly what is it that people see in Garnacho? He makes poor decisions over and over again, he's so infuriating to watch.

Most don’t like the idea of an academy product that hasn’t reached his potential going elsewhere and fulfilling it.

It’s clear as day he’s not good enough right now, and personally I don’t think he ever will be, but I can understand why people are against selling him.

Personally I think if the fee is high enough we sell, he has always felt overrated to me - like most youngsters it’s always exciting when they first break into the team but the reality sets in regarding their level after a while. Garnacho is nothing more than okay.
 
Sky have been reporting that there are three teams interested besides Napoli and Chelsea, and that Garnacho isn't actively looking to leave.
Ah yes, three mystery clubs there’s no other reporting on. There’s no way that’s club leaks trying to get a few more quid out of Napoli.
 
Cole Palmer is a great, great player, and much better than Garnacho. But Garnacho is twice the player that Palmer was when he left City.

It’s not even close.

That does not make sense. Palmer didn't get the opportunities at City that his talent deserved, so his level was unknown to the masses until he started playing week in, week out for Chelsea...but when that happened, it was immediately clear that he's one of the best players in the league. So how was he not even as good as Garnacho a few months prior to that? He obviously was, he was just not getting game time.
 
"Oh no, I either have to help out defensively our be more creative and pass and stuff, waaaaaah!"

Good riddance to that sort of characters, I say.

Your name is spot on.

You have some real hate for Garnacho who ive seen tracking back and even play at RB when Dalot got sent off! He has been subbed on as LB or turned to a LB against southampton so Amorim clearly dont see him as lazy.

Also he has 2 assists against Liverpool and Arsenal, should have had one with Antony in 3 consequent games so just because he isnt mesut ozil its not like he has zero creativity.

Show some respect and harmony for our players rather than chucking everyone out like their turd on your toilet paper mr freaks. Every person who leaves this club is deemed to be some sort of evil person.
Incredible post!

Its crazy how obsessed you are with getting Garnacho out.

Why does he irritate you so much? Why do you talk about his ego?

Like sure, sell him for the right price but your sounding like someone who wants to cut his contract and send him off on a free.

Is he that important to you?

Your non stop here shaking hands with EVERY negative post against Garancho; its cringey af.

I would sell for 60million but its not my business so if he stays i wouldnt blame him, napoli or united. It just didnt happen.

His mentality and ego is perfectly fine because you have never talked to him face to face.
 
Its crazy how obsessed you are with getting Garnacho out.

Why does he irritate you so much? Why do you talk about his ego?

Like sure, sell him for the right price but your sounding like someone who wants to cut his contract and send him off on a free.

Is he that important to you?

Your non stop here shaking hands with EVERY negative post against Garancho; its cringey af.

I would sell for 60million but its not my business so if he stays i wouldnt blame him, napoli or united. It just didnt happen.

His mentality and ego is perfectly fine because you have never talked to him face to face.
You know what you're right. I won't do it ever again I am very sorry.
 
That does not make sense. Palmer didn't get the opportunities at City that his talent deserved, so his level was unknown to the masses until he started playing week in, week out for Chelsea...but when that happened, it was immediately clear that he's one of the best players in the league. So how was he not even as good as Garnacho a few months prior to that? He obviously was, he was just not getting game time.
Palmer played only 19 PL games for City, while Garnacho has played 78 for us. Just to add to your point.
 
I reckon he is going - the way Amorim talked about him either showed there was negotiations or that he doesnt want him much talking about how we should just focus on the game.

He missed the whole "player x is a good player" that he gave to even Zirkzee.
 
I reckon he is going - the way Amorim talked about him either showed there was negotiations or that he doesnt want him much talking about just to focus on the game.

He missed the whole "player x is a good player" that he gave to even Zirkzee.
Of course he's going he's shite and has a massive ego. He irritates me so much.

If it was up to me I'd just cancel his contract and release him.
 
If we sell Garnacho to bring in a couple of wing back flops, this forum will be unbearable.

The thread is already unbearable, many have grossly overrated Garnacho's influence and ability. I think 55-60m GBP is a respectable sum of finances.

As previously stated Bellingham, Palmer, Yamal and Musiala are within the same age range as Garnacho yet the difference in their capabilities is significantly profound. Each of those players are what I'd consider beyond sellable however United don't really have a player in the squad reflective of such a stance. If Mainoo played as an advance midfielder then I would put him in a category where an absolutely ridiculous offer would need to come but with him still being mis-profiled as a double pivot player he likely too has a price .

Between Garnacho and Hojlund since being under Eth, they still have contributed to the worst attack United have formed in years.

They are substitute quality at best and for a team with aspirations to get into the top six, 60 million for a substitute level player is good business. If Rashford isn't deemed good enough then you can guarantee that Garnacho isn't either. Yes Marcus is a senior player but it's not age that's the consideration to why Rashford needs to be sold it's his quality.

United need to reinvigorate the attack, if Garnacho going is what enables the club to be more astute in the summer window then so be it.
 
Quite excited to see what we will do with the money.

Cunha and Dorgu would be a great start IMO. Although if I was Ineos I'd seriously consider another, cheaper wing-back as well for that left-side to ease the pressure on Dorgu which would be way too much, coming in as a 20 year old with just 1.5 seasons of first team football under his belt.
 
Cunha and Dorgu would be a great start IMO. Although if I was Ineos I'd seriously consider another, cheaper wing-back as well for that left-side to ease the pressure on Dorgu which would be way too much, coming in as a 20 year old with just 1.5 seasons of first team football under his belt.
Dorgu we can afford without Garnacho I believe so he wouldn't even count.
 
Exactly what is it that people see in Garnacho? He makes poor decisions over and over again, he's so infuriating to watch.
I’m not saying he’ll be anywhere near as good as Ronaldo but if you saw some of Ronaldo’s performances at 19/20 you’d be shocked how poor his decision making was at times, which is natural because like Garnacho, he was a kid.

I honestly don’t know what to think of Garnacho. He has talent but if Amorim and the club has decided he doesn’t fit in with the system or his attitude is wrong then I guess we have to trust them. The fact that he was dropped for the Manchester derby wasn’t his first offence regarding disciplinary issues either.

Anything less than 60 million seems way too low though.
 
You can tell a lot on the quality of your player not just on the fee they command, but also on the suitors available.

If United want to challenge for top 4, they need better players than Garnacho, as a 20 y/o player if he really looked like one of the best prospects out there, we would be linked with Real Madrid, Bayern, PSG or other PL teams (bar Chelsea and their eternal youth exodia plan).

If Napoli is the leading candidate to sign your 'Gem' and you can't even expect him to nail a starting position in the next 18 months, he's not the kind of player you should be interested to build around.

Diallo, you can see he has something special, keeping Garnacho might be similar on doubling down with Rashford or Martial when most signs said "sell him and move on".
 
Your name is spot on.

You have some real hate for Garnacho who ive seen tracking back and even play at RB when Dalot got sent off! He has been subbed on as LB or turned to a LB against southampton so Amorim clearly dont see him as lazy.

Also he has 2 assists against Liverpool and Arsenal, should have had one with Antony in 3 consequent games so just because he isnt mesut ozil its not like he has zero creativity.

Show some respect and harmony for our players rather than chucking everyone out like their turd on your toilet paper mr freaks. Every person who leaves this club is deemed to be some sort of evil person.


Its crazy how obsessed you are with getting Garnacho out.

Why does he irritate you so much? Why do you talk about his ego?

Like sure, sell him for the right price but your sounding like someone who wants to cut his contract and send him off on a free.

Is he that important to you?

Your non stop here shaking hands with EVERY negative post against Garancho; its cringey af.

I would sell for 60million but its not my business so if he stays i wouldnt blame him, napoli or united. It just didnt happen.

His mentality and ego is perfectly fine because you have never talked to him face to face.
Mr Freaks is my father.
 
I’m not saying he’ll be anywhere near as good as Ronaldo but if you saw some of Ronaldo’s performances at 19/20 you’d be shocked how poor his decision making was at times, which is natural because like Garnacho, he was a kid.

I honestly don’t know what to think of Garnacho. He has talent but if Amorim and the club has decided he doesn’t fit in with the system or his attitude is wrong then I guess we have to trust them. The fact that he was dropped for the Manchester derby wasn’t his first offence regarding disciplinary issues either.

Anything less than 60 million seems way too low though.
If you want to compare Garnacho with a former Utd player then he is more like Sharpe or Kanchelskis, (with the decision making of Nani), Garnacho is all about running directly at players there is no trickery or magic footwork, I like Garnacho he has been a very exciting player in a period where there has been very little to get excited by, but he is seriously over rated by Utd fans, I think the Garnacho we currently have is very much as good as he is going to get, and in a few years when his pace drops then he will drop right off.

£60m would be nice but £50m with a 15-25% sell on clause would be even better and more achievable