Next to no source backing this up, rather the oppositeRashford said it publically. Garnacho has been shopping himself about with his agents.
He’s got a long way to go before he ends up at one of those but I expect a bunch of clauses in his sale which see us get £20m+ if he ends up that good.If we sell him then surely we put a sell on clause on it. He’s destined to join Madrid or Barca at some point in his career.
Don’t know man, I vividly remember people on here saying we couldn’t sell Martial under Mourinho because he’d go on to become our Salah.Take Martial out but yeah.
Mate, please. I work in finance. If you don't know what you're talking about, just hold off on commenting on PSR. I'm sick of people posting who don't understand the rules.Thats not how it works, when people say selling youth academy players are pure profit, they mean there are no costs that need to be written off, so every penny that comes from selling a garnacho is pure profit, and player sales are accounted for the year they are sold in not carried forward over the period, so that entire 50mn can be set off against the year's amortization cost of player purchase. If you sell a Hojlund, for 50mn you may or may not end up getting any money in terms of psr because he was bought for a big fee that is being amortized over his contract period or whatever max term uefa rules say, so if we sold Hojlund right now for 50mn, his unamoritized cost will also have to be written off which will be set off against the 50mn, if there is an accounting profit only then is it useful in terms of PSR rules in that case, if not all it will do is reduce the amount of transfer cost that gets amortized in future.
I believe it would be a mistake to sell him. As you said, he has been one of our better players and he will get better and better. We have not seen anything like his full potential yet.I know he is nowhere near as good as Messi & his finishing is awful at times but he has been one of our better players in recent times, are we making a mistake getting rid?![]()
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Or PedriMust've missed when we had Lamine Yamal on our books
When did he move to the wing?Or Pedri![]()
Wasn't specifically mentioning any position, but rather listing actual special talents.When did he move to the wing?
Compare him to those players at 20 year’s old, though. We have to consider he has the potential to get a lot better than he currently is with a bit of fine tuning.Garnacho has always been an exciting player because of his willingness to run at pace and take on defenders.
His end product can be quite frustrating especially when he picks the wrong option to pass or shoot. Will his football intelligence improve and his willingness to do so?
Compare it to some of the top wingers in the league at the moment like Salah and Saka. Palmer, Foden and Mbuemo to stretch it. I think Garnacho is still some distance away which is possibly why he is not an automatic choice even within our own starting XI.
Don't get me wrong. I'll still appreciate him as our player, but I wouldn't say he is indispensable but the current depth is definitely worrying
The poster you laughed about did thoughWasn't specifically mentioning any position, but rather listing actual special talents.
It's a strange one, really. The current rules basically creates a separate market with different valuations for "academy players" where the selling clubs can add the full transfer sum to the bottom line immediately, and thus would be willing to accept a lower total transfer fee for these players.I just don’t see how we are letting go of one of the best 20 year olds in the world for 50-60m.
He is very good for his age, he is still 5 years from his peak and is on course to being a great player.
This, some say he has no qualities but he is actually very mature and productive for his age. He obviously wants to model after Ronaldo, the Real Madrid version. So he makes good runs, always wants to play off the shoulder of defenders, is very alert in counter attacks/transitions, he actually has very good low crossing/cutbacks and can curl it in the far corner. He will become a very productive winger in the right set-up.I'm looking at top 5 leagues and cups, and UNDER 21 (so 20 and below).
https://www.transfermarkt.com/score...chtung=&spielerposition_id=&filter=0&yt0=Show
You can also look at his metrics, while being a 19/20 year old and playing in a garbage disaster team, showing his elite traits:
- 98th percentile in total shots
- 87th percentile in non pen xG
- 92nd percentile in progressive carries
- 95th percentile for carries into the box
- 87th percentile in progressive passes received
- 97th percentile in penalty area touches
He's 20. He's not a complete player. But he has elite traits, and players as they age tend to round out the weaker parts of their game while refining their elite traits. Garnachos profile lends itself to a player who is going to get 20+ goals per season as a winger and a big danger man.
I just don’t see how we are letting go of one of the best 20 year olds in the world for 50-60m.
He is very good for his age, he is still 5 years from his peak and is on course to being a great player.
Surely there are also some of those 20 year olds who don't meet their potential also. That's why it's potential.Compare him to those players at 20 year’s old, though. We have to consider he has the potential to get a lot better than he currently is with a bit of fine tuning.
Cole Palmer showed feck all for City, not comparable at allCole Palmer was £40m, so really Garnacho is worth far less.
Cole Palmer was £40m, so really Garnacho is worth far less.
In what way is he better? I would argue that the vast majority would say he's not close.For me the Alvarez fee should be the barometer. In my opinion Garnacho is already better than Alvarez and he’s younger. That should be the absolutely bare minimum fee to see him go. Personally though I hope we keep him as I still see a potential world beater in him if he puts it all together.
Cole Palmer was £40m, so really Garnacho is worth far less.
WowStop comparing him to Lamal Yamine, I don't think there's a lot between the two if they both play for a top team.
50m will be like farting right in front of our faces and running away with our doughnuts.
When I watch the other top talents, he performs the same.To me he's always looked a level below the top talents when you watch him for 90 mins, so I have no qualms for letting him go for a good price.
If we're selling though, we need to sell in the next couple of days and have a replacement lined up in addition to whoever we bring in at wing back. Any less than two signings through the door after a ~£60m sale will be disappointing.
Cole Palmer showed feck all for City, not comparable at all
Thats not the same - Garnacho has over 3 times the number of games for United than what Palmer had for City. Palmer was also not in any way a key player at any point for them whilst Garnacho has been for us at times in the last 2 years
Nonsense, they would've never sold him if they believed thatIt was very well known how talented he was. City believed he was better than Foden.
And everyone on earth thinks that was a disastrous decision given what’s then happened over the next 2 years.
Nonsense, they would've never sold him if they believed that
Like I just said in another thread, this could be a reverse of the De Bruyne situation where he didn't get a chance at Chelsea and they now get mocked for letting him go. The word is that City coaches rate him higher than Foden! He looks like he has the lot too, he just needs to put it together.
Using yourself as a source is certainly a play@hellhunter just for you. This was from whilst he was still at City.