Everton demanded 75m for Branthwaite wasn’t it. 55 is just low however you dress it up
Alejandro Garnacho (out) | Chelsea make enquiries
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Everton demanded 75m for Branthwaite wasn’t it. 55 is just low however you dress it up
Watch them sell him for this low fee and then not replace him. Or get someone in like Weghorst on loan. At least we’ll have enough money for replacing all the destroyed tv’s this could lead to.
Anything short of £65-70m - considering the eye-watering amounts we're quoted from substantially worse / less established players - would be absolute car crash dealing
And we deserve it
If we sell Garnacho, and Rashford /Anthony leave on loan. What are our attacking options left for the season? Even if you don't rate any of those players, we will be very light up top. I have no faith in us bringing in any quality by the end of this window.
Unless we've got players lined up to replace him AND there have been issues behind the scenes with his attitude/ego, then it would be mental to sell now.
Goes against everything this club stands for really.
Would rather get rid of some of the senior players first at ANY cost.
Goes against everything this club stands for really.
Would rather get rid of some of the senior players first at ANY cost.
I’m not sure how much PSR trouble we are in, if Chelsea can buy him that says it all. I’m not sure we know how good Gernacho is yet. He could be overrated or a galactico.
Or sell him at the peak of his stock.
Nobody wants to give us 50m for anybody else.
The difference between us and Chelsea is that they took advanatge of a loophole that has now been closed and they also sold a lot of 'home grown' players - they probably had more leeway than we have/did but I suspect that they are reaching the limit soon
He's 20 years old
I'm aware of his age but at 24 you wont get the same price back, clubs pay for potential
Well I suppose its how you view it. Is he the next Cole Palmer or the next Jadon Sancho. Or maybe a Mo Salah/Kevin De Bruyne situation?
So was Januzaj at one point.He's 20 years old
So were most professional footballers at one point
I don't like this if Utd do it. Strong chance it is the type of move the club and fanbase ends up massively regretting.
Yes. And some go on to greater things, while others wilt.
Agreed. Really don’t want him to go. He was looking like being our most productive attacker at the start of the season.
Not if we keep with Amorim and the 343, Garnacho simply does not fit.
I understand the reasoning behind it, but I don’t like it.
And if Amorin flames out in 6 months, which is not entirely unlikely, and we have binned off Garnacho and Mainoo to chase the Ruben dream Utd are going to look even dumber that they already do.
People should stop the dross we acquired as a benchmark for market rates, we’ve been a constant outlier in terms of the price / return on investment due to our embarrassing recruitment structure. It’s a totally reasonable price for Garnacho who struggles to get a game for us and has attitude issues.
And yet we're being quoted 40m for a rather unknown and rather random LB
Yes, and we will be clowns if we go ahead we should be looking elsewhere then as simple as that.
This.
Which is why its so important for the DOF and management to actually have a vision.
We can't continue to change the entire team every time we appoint a new manager.
A player of Garnachos quality and potential should fit in most teams. Unless of course there are things going on behind the scenes we are not privy to.
I don't think Ashworth left because he was unhappy with the coffee. Do we even have a vision? Did Berrada and Sir Jim decide that we should use wingbacks and 3421?
Garnacho is nowhere near to being an elite prospect, he has no outstanding qualities.
Its going to be infuriating if we sell him, don't sign a good player in return, and then recall Rashy and have to endure him strolling around for the rest of the season
Chickens coming home to roost for all the money we've wasted buying crap and giving ludicrous wages out without question. Ineos are clearly in bed with the Glazers and don't actually give a shit about the fans despite all they claimed to when putting in the bids
Chickens coming home to roost for all the money we've wasted buying crap and giving ludicrous wages out without question. Ineos are clearly in bed with the Glazers and don't actually give a shit about the fans despite all they claimed to when putting in the bids
We're a very average team that struggles to score goals, and we're selling a highly talented, capable academy player who is our top scoring forward. For a relatively low fee. This feels like a bad move.
Can't see it any other way. If we were to immediately replace him with a better fit for the system, might be worth thinking about, but I can't see it. We're not getting an upgrade for the touted Garnacho fee
How much is PL against lower level teams in cup games?
It's a very difficult one. Both because we don't really know Garnacho's full potential and also because we don't know what the funds will be spent on.
What we do know is that we have several positions that need urgent attention (GK, LWB, CF, AM and likely CM), whilst not having the funds to recruit for these positions.
I'm torn but probably end up on the side of accepting a £60m+ offer. My reasoning being that going into next season with Garnacho and maybe 1-2 other signings isn't going to put us in a Champions League position, particularly as he is unlikely to be able to flourish in the left attacking midfield spot given his skillset.
Therefore we end up with a very talented squad player and 1-2 additions to the squad, or the opportunity to go into the summer targeting 4-5 first team players.
I don't buy the argument "what's the point in selling a good player when we'll inevitably just buy a crap one with the funds" because a) if that premise is accepted then we're going to be an upper mid table team in perpetuity regardless of who we sell and b) the summer business seemed a big improvement on historical windows in my view.
I'd obviously prefer to sell Casemiro, Rashford, Eriksen, Lindelof, Mount, Malacia, Onana and Antony; but my guess is all of these put together would raise less funds than Garnacho, given their huge wages in comparison to current ability.
What we do know is that we have several positions that need urgent attention (GK, LWB, CF, AM and likely CM), whilst not having the funds to recruit for these positions.
I'm torn but probably end up on the side of accepting a £60m+ offer. My reasoning being that going into next season with Garnacho and maybe 1-2 other signings isn't going to put us in a Champions League position, particularly as he is unlikely to be able to flourish in the left attacking midfield spot given his skillset.
Therefore we end up with a very talented squad player and 1-2 additions to the squad, or the opportunity to go into the summer targeting 4-5 first team players.
I don't buy the argument "what's the point in selling a good player when we'll inevitably just buy a crap one with the funds" because a) if that premise is accepted then we're going to be an upper mid table team in perpetuity regardless of who we sell and b) the summer business seemed a big improvement on historical windows in my view.
I'd obviously prefer to sell Casemiro, Rashford, Eriksen, Lindelof, Mount, Malacia, Onana and Antony; but my guess is all of these put together would raise less funds than Garnacho, given their huge wages in comparison to current ability.
Yep. And it doesn't look like that pure dross is going anywhere so one of the few exciting players we have is gone, leaving us having to watch the dross continue to stink the place out, on their massive wages
It's sickening, and worrying
The signings we make using the money better not be even more dross/panic buys
It's the Glazers who walked us to the edge of the cliff financially, this is all on them.
Not much we can do about that, they've already been bought.
The problem is now getting rid of Rashford, Anthony and Casemiro, probably on loan, is not going to be enough to allow us to buy new players.
I've heard dire things about the coffee maker apparently they use the Carrington soil due to budget cuts
How can you sell players you don’t have offers for? Such a weird statement.
No idea, we need to sell first.
People say this and no one ever does