They must like midtable.
Alejandro Garnacho (out) | Chelsea make enquiries
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They must like midtable.
Or they’d prefer if we actually made superstars like we use to rather than signing the finished article. Younger players show more desire and hunger. Older players just want there pay check every week without putting in the performances.
Selling Garnacho would be madness.
Not sure why my previous similar post being deleted/rejected. What is this censorship is this S. Korea?
Not sure why my previous similar post being deleted/rejected. What is this censorship is this S. Korea?
Hojlund has the strength, pace, running power, finishing ability, and mental profile of a top class striker. His movement in the box and other shortcomings can be coached to a good level in a relatively short time, in a settled team environment and as part of a collectively well-drilled team. He's not had either at United so far.
Mainoo is a special talent, because he's a rare profile. Best description IMO would be that he's Thiago Alcantara without the passing range. Still an incredible and very importantly, rare LCM profile.
-Press-resistance
-Short space manipulation
Game intelligence (tactical intelligence too)
-Great between the lines,
-Has "pausa" to dictate the tempo (hasn't really had the chance to do this because we were playing basketball games under ETH and he hasn't had a suitable #6 behind him)
-Good progressor of the ball by carrying it, despite not having a great passing range
-Overall an exceptional build-up player
-He could be better in duels IMO with a bit of development, as it's an aspect of his game that has gotten better IMO
He's not great out of possession, and on defending transitions, and he definitely doesn't have the passing range of Carrick, or even Eriksen, but he shouldn't be tasked with stuff he can't reliably do. Just need a good partner for him and a settled team around him, and him being a special talent won't even be a debate...although it shouldn't be a debate already. We've all watched him for more than a season at this point. He was exceptional against both Liverpool and Arsenal not that long ago.
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Rashford was the definition of special up until ETH's second season, with the only exception being the 21/22 season, where he had an injury that kept him out almost until Ole's sacking, and then came into a shit and disorganized team where Rangnick didn't even fancy him that much. Let's not rewrite history and pretend his 19/20, 20/21 and 22/23 seasons weren't great. He was comfortably 80-100m player in those seasons and one of the best left-sided inside forwards in the world
Thiago Alcantara without the passing range is a big omission of quality to be “special” don’t you think, especially as a midfielder? What you’ve said above can apply to Tom Cleverley as a youngster. That does not make him any more of a special player.
I'm not a scout but this is just basic player profiling. No one can tell the future but you can make a good guess about every player you've watched extensively, if you know how to evaluate them.
What does that even mean? They know there are others for sell so that’s why they won’t buy them?
Also, I still don’t understand who do you think will fetch a decent fee? It’s certainly not Casemiro, nor Eriksen, nor Rashford or Antony or Malacia or Shaw or even Mount. Technically, the only kinda sellable asset that we have is Dalot, but he’s the only one in this whole squad that I’d trust to stay fit.
I'm not gonna debate this man, sorry. Especially when we're derailing another thread with it. If you don't see it, I doubt there's anything I could say to change your opinion.
We never made superstars. We signed the best players from other teams in our league or we spent big money on the most highly rated young players in world football.
We didn’t sign young players with potential who might turn out good. When did we do that successfully?
Promote this man
But but but take away his G&A and he offers nothingPissing away this potential for a system and manager that most likely won't be here in 2/3 years time.
This is top quality parody sir, well played.
Yeah because no one can afford to buy Rashford
Yeah the FFP/PSR is definitely forcing our hand
Absolute disgraceful situation
The last point is completely undone by the fact Rashford will remain at the club.
Also, what message is it sending out to the players exactly? Play crap, and get an escape option which comes with a pay rise? Despite what we think, Garnacho and many of the squad won't see his move as a step down.
I just hope we’re playing 4d chess here, dropping hints at Mainoo and Garnacho departures so everyone thinks we’re skint from PSR. Meanwhile we’re progressing good price deals for more quality youngsters
Outside of the financial points, I don't think the rest of this makes sense at all. And we won't really know what the financial situation is either.
I'm not adverse to selling anyone at the club, no one should be untouchable, such is the state of the team and the PSR situation.
However I've no optimism that the money would be spent wisely either going by our track record as little as the last transfer window.
You could probably count on one hand the players that have come to United post Ferguson that you would count as a success.
However I've no optimism that the money would be spent wisely either going by our track record as little as the last transfer window.
You could probably count on one hand the players that have come to United post Ferguson that you would count as a success.
I'm OK with him going as long as we get a good fee for him which I'd say is anything more than 65-70 million pounds. He just hasn't really progressed enough since he came into the team. He's clearly a decent/good premier league winger though so I won't be too fussed if we keep him either. Win win in my books.
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I mean it isn't as if the club isn't trying there
, he hasn't been in the team in weeks and negotiations have been ongoing around Europe. We're just hamstrung by the previous regimes decisions so a loan is the only realistic option this time of year
Like Garnacho?
People in this thread seem to be skipping over the information that United don't want to sell, it's Garnacho that's courting the interest. United's policy seems to be they aren't looking to sell anyone, but if teams come in with a stupid offer, well, then they'd be stupid not to liste, like any club in world football.
So if United don't want to sell, but Garnacho and his team are happy to court interest from Chelsea and Napoli... what do you want the team to do? Sell for a good price (for a damn change) and reinvest that into the team which would be great cause we are poor as hell, or hold onto a potentially unhappy player as we've done time and time again in the past until the situation implodes.
So if United don't want to sell, but Garnacho and his team are happy to court interest from Chelsea and Napoli... what do you want the team to do? Sell for a good price (for a damn change) and reinvest that into the team which would be great cause we are poor as hell, or hold onto a potentially unhappy player as we've done time and time again in the past until the situation implodes.
Yamal is an insane talent
Dorgeles is two years older would make more business sense for Jim and co to keep Garnacho on for at least another two years whereby a bigger fee will be got for him.
Seems crazy to even consider selling him but he's literally (aside from Rashford and Mainoo) our 2 assets that could actually raise any kind of decent funds. Nobody would possibly want any of the others minus Bruno/Amad who have just signed new deals and obviously not going anywhere. It makes sense since he's the only that doesn't really fit the profile as a 10 or a 9 but I think he'd be such a strong bench option to have.
Best winger in the world (Salah isn't an out and out winger for me)
There are so so many more players that deserve to be sold before him.
Yes who can't get us any money
Honestly if we sell him for less than £70m we're idiots. He's a top talent, and we should be holding on to him. There is a point at which it makes sense to sell, but given that we get over charged for every single player out there.. it'd be dumb. Lecce want 35m for Dorgu which is probably a 15m overpay for him given the club we'd be buying from and what he's actually done in his career relative to Garnacho. Don't get me wrong, we should be buying talents like Dorgu. But we get overcharged for average talents and then if we start selling actual top talents for "reasonable fee's" then it's just going further backwards to push our squad into mediocrity, because I guarantee we won't stop being over-charged.
It would be madness to sell him, specially for the low prices recorded by journalists.
Who do you replace him with? Yamal? Barcelona will ask for 180-200. Arda Güller? Madrid will ask por 120-150. Wirtz or Musiala? Will cost at least 100.
You simply don’t sell your top talents.
I will start seriously doubting Ineos if they let him go, and replace him with a lesser player.
Who do you replace him with? Yamal? Barcelona will ask for 180-200. Arda Güller? Madrid will ask por 120-150. Wirtz or Musiala? Will cost at least 100.
You simply don’t sell your top talents.
I will start seriously doubting Ineos if they let him go, and replace him with a lesser player.
I think he'll be a Napoli player before the window closes. He'll choose Napoli for regular first team football.
Past the doubting stage with their decisions
Sell 1 to buy 2/3 players who fit the system? Sure.