The only ones saying Napoli will dictate are paranoid fans.
I've no idea how much we want to sell, but it seems we are at least reasonably happy to. I would assume we have plans for replacing him.
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I've no idea how much we want to sell, but it seems we are at least reasonably happy to. I would assume we have plans for replacing him.
Was it not a Garnacho cross for the equaliser?
Everywhere I have read sounds like we are willing to sell, and at this point looks 50/50.
We might not be pushing him out, but we seem happy to sell. I would imagine we have plans for a better replacement.
I find the insistence that a 20-year-old who's been getting into good positions and putting chances on a plate in recent matches is a poor fit for us, truly bizarre.
What players do we even have for the two behind the striker? Bruno when he's not needed in midfield, Amad when he's not needed on the right, and Mount when he's not needed by his hamstring or his ankle or whatever it is this week. We haven't got the numbers to sell Garnacho without bringing in a good replacement. Who are people imagining that will be, how much will be left over to improve other areas of the squad after getting them, and how much of that working out is being done on the basis that amortization is a magical process that just quintuples money?
What players do we even have for the two behind the striker? Bruno when he's not needed in midfield, Amad when he's not needed on the right, and Mount when he's not needed by his hamstring or his ankle or whatever it is this week. We haven't got the numbers to sell Garnacho without bringing in a good replacement. Who are people imagining that will be, how much will be left over to improve other areas of the squad after getting them, and how much of that working out is being done on the basis that amortization is a magical process that just quintuples money?
Just checked, got confused. Yes that's his 1 assist this season in the league.
We are willing to sell at our price yes.
But that does not mean he is up for sale. It would take a big offer for us to let go of him and that's been a club brief to all the credible united journalists.
That's why I think it's weird for Napoli to make these types of statements. It's not like Garnacho hasn't been playing for us, or that he's toward end of contract, or that we need him to go. On the flipside they really want him and they are running out of time. The posturing pisses me off because it will just unsettle the player, hence the "their conditions can go to feck themselves" comment. We have a price and it's been briefed.
If they bid something close to that figure I'd understand but they're still way off and have the audacity to say this bollocks.
The sheer arrogance. First off, it’s on our conditions if we want to sell a player who has years left on his contract. If you want to have it on your conditions, put down an offer of £100m, something United couldn’t refuse. Otherwise it’s very much on our terms.
Clearly we would replace him.
An assist for Zirkzee's winner against Fulham as well.
Everyone sells at their price. I don't think we care that much about keeping him.
Well we don't necessarily need a replacement given his postion kind of no longer exists
The fact that no one has heard a peep might be a good thing, the club may have identifed someone under the radar, unlikely but you never know
If this is the case we would take the second bid. I bet we won't.
I think we have a valuation and it's more we don't care that much if Napoli fail to meet it.
I think we are close. Not saying this bid is enough but I don't think it far off.
The post does feature several questions, however "will we sign a replacement?" was not among them.
Not his biggest fan but I don’t see the point in selling now. Losing Rashford and Garnacho halfway through the season just seems mad to me.
Who are we linked with that makes this make any sense?
Who are we linked with that makes this make any sense?
How come we're not linked to any replacement?
We would need to sell first, we don't have money to buy without selling.
No but it made statements that suggest we wouldn't.
We should sell Gary Nacho because a little club (like us) should only ever aspire to being a feeder club for the big boys. Take the money and run -- to the Championship.
Where?
If there was a replacement planned, we'd have likely heard about names
One thing most people don’t seem to be considering is what his attitude is like off the pitch, and if he’s a bit of a trouble maker. There was a few things pointing to him being the one leaking team news, he’s been left behind in pre season by ETH for issues off the pitch, he’s been in trouble a few times for things he’s done on social media.
The team news leaks is enough to sell alone in my opinion. Perhaps the club just think he’s a problem.
I might be wrong but it’s worth keeping in mind, as there are a few misdemeanours to his name already.
The team news leaks is enough to sell alone in my opinion. Perhaps the club just think he’s a problem.
I might be wrong but it’s worth keeping in mind, as there are a few misdemeanours to his name already.
Not necessarily. I’m pretty sure there’ll be incomings if we lose him, Antony, Malacia and maybe even Rashford. I think we’ll bring in one of two towards the end of the window.
That’s only when it comes to financial fair play rules. You also need to have 250M pounds to spend 250M pounds. Selling academy players is not a glitch in the system that allows spending 5 times more money.
I reckon there around 15m short
I know I know!! I could have broke down accounts and cash at bank etc. But I was trying to paint a picture. I mean nobody was thinking we was going to by PSG Neymar from selling Garnacho.
Point being you sell Garnacho to help rebuild the team without getting a points deduction.
What if we sack the manager? We spend £100m on a replacement as the new manager wants to play 433?
It’s not weird, it’s just fairly typical transfer posturing. A selling club will insist they don’t need to sell and their valuation must be met, a buying club will insist they’re not going to buy at any price, only a price they think is reasonable. That’s all this is.
Right, except in this instance they are racing against the clock to sign a replacement and will need to cut to the chase sooner rather than later.
Back to my original point if that's the route they are taking then we should be fine to tell them to feck their conditions and be serious if they want to sign our player.
I totally agree with you. I will say though, feels weird to be in Dortmund's shoes for this one
Yeah for once we are doing what Ajax and Dortmund did and it feels nice. I doubt Napoli will cave to a stupid fee but they still look about 10-15m off the mark.I totally agree with you. I will say though, feels weird to be in Dortmund's shoes for this one
That doesn’t mean they won’t move on to another target, or make do with what they’ve got till the summer, if they can’t get Garnacho at a price they think is reasonable.
Every transfer window is a “race” to deadline day, but that doesn’t automatically mean clubs will just pay the asking price. They will have an amount they won’t go above and if we don’t drop to that price the sale won’t happen and they’ll move on, as will we.
I think its less. 5-10m.
Why?
How often do we go from hearing a name for the first time to signing a player in less than 12 days?
Yes all of this is normal operations for a window but it's January 18th and they are posturing with a couple weeks to go. Their reported back up is toaster toes Timo which is quite the cliff edge from Garnacho.
Bit weird to me that they think they've got time to play the standard transfer games. They will need to wrap it up for us to have sufficient time to get Garnacho replaced too, especially noting Antony may advance to Betis.
As I said, if they said these things whilst being close to our valuation I'd get it, because they're sending a message that they aren't far off. But they're saying there's an expectation to sign garnacho on their conditions which is weird, given the second bid needs some revision.
They are racing against time but Napoli are also linked with Cherki and Zhegrova. If United want/have to sell before July then this will get interesting.
Personally I can't see Napoli spending big on him and expect Garnacho to stay. Napoli are already talking about signing Adeyemi in the summer
I've only seen the Werner link that came from Di Marzio (would be quite funny).
I dont think we need to sell Garnacho though. Getting Rashford, Casemiro, Lindelof, Malacia and maybe Antony off our books should be sufficient.
I think 'potential' from a fan's perspective is always simply an opinion anyway. There's a recurring theme with youngsters at United of huge initial fan excitement rapidly turning to resentment when people realise the player isn't George Best. It's become a difficult club for players to reach their full potential at imo.