The sheer arrogance. First off, it’s on our conditions if we want to sell a player who has years left on his contract. If you want to have it on your conditions, put down an offer of £100m, something United couldn’t refuse. Otherwise it’s very much on our terms.
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The sheer arrogance. First off, it’s on our conditions if we want to sell a player who has years left on his contract. If you want to have it on your conditions, put down an offer of £100m, something United couldn’t refuse. Otherwise it’s very much on our terms.
Clearly we would replace him.
An assist for Zirkzee's winner against Fulham as well.
Everyone sells at their price. I don't think we care that much about keeping him.
Well we don't necessarily need a replacement given his postion kind of no longer exists
The fact that no one has heard a peep might be a good thing, the club may have identifed someone under the radar, unlikely but you never know
If this is the case we would take the second bid. I bet we won't.
I think we have a valuation and it's more we don't care that much if Napoli fail to meet it.
I think we are close. Not saying this bid is enough but I don't think it far off.
The post does feature several questions, however "will we sign a replacement?" was not among them.
Not his biggest fan but I don’t see the point in selling now. Losing Rashford and Garnacho halfway through the season just seems mad to me.
Who are we linked with that makes this make any sense?
Who are we linked with that makes this make any sense?
How come we're not linked to any replacement?
We would need to sell first, we don't have money to buy without selling.
No but it made statements that suggest we wouldn't.
We should sell Gary Nacho because a little club (like us) should only ever aspire to being a feeder club for the big boys. Take the money and run -- to the Championship.
Where?
If there was a replacement planned, we'd have likely heard about names
One thing most people don’t seem to be considering is what his attitude is like off the pitch, and if he’s a bit of a trouble maker. There was a few things pointing to him being the one leaking team news, he’s been left behind in pre season by ETH for issues off the pitch, he’s been in trouble a few times for things he’s done on social media.
The team news leaks is enough to sell alone in my opinion. Perhaps the club just think he’s a problem.
I might be wrong but it’s worth keeping in mind, as there are a few misdemeanours to his name already.
The team news leaks is enough to sell alone in my opinion. Perhaps the club just think he’s a problem.
I might be wrong but it’s worth keeping in mind, as there are a few misdemeanours to his name already.
Not necessarily. I’m pretty sure there’ll be incomings if we lose him, Antony, Malacia and maybe even Rashford. I think we’ll bring in one of two towards the end of the window.
That’s only when it comes to financial fair play rules. You also need to have 250M pounds to spend 250M pounds. Selling academy players is not a glitch in the system that allows spending 5 times more money.
I reckon there around 15m short
I know I know!! I could have broke down accounts and cash at bank etc. But I was trying to paint a picture. I mean nobody was thinking we was going to by PSG Neymar from selling Garnacho.
Point being you sell Garnacho to help rebuild the team without getting a points deduction.
What if we sack the manager? We spend £100m on a replacement as the new manager wants to play 433?
It’s not weird, it’s just fairly typical transfer posturing. A selling club will insist they don’t need to sell and their valuation must be met, a buying club will insist they’re not going to buy at any price, only a price they think is reasonable. That’s all this is.
Right, except in this instance they are racing against the clock to sign a replacement and will need to cut to the chase sooner rather than later.
Back to my original point if that's the route they are taking then we should be fine to tell them to feck their conditions and be serious if they want to sign our player.
I totally agree with you. I will say though, feels weird to be in Dortmund's shoes for this one
Yeah for once we are doing what Ajax and Dortmund did and it feels nice. I doubt Napoli will cave to a stupid fee but they still look about 10-15m off the mark.I totally agree with you. I will say though, feels weird to be in Dortmund's shoes for this one
That doesn’t mean they won’t move on to another target, or make do with what they’ve got till the summer, if they can’t get Garnacho at a price they think is reasonable.
Every transfer window is a “race” to deadline day, but that doesn’t automatically mean clubs will just pay the asking price. They will have an amount they won’t go above and if we don’t drop to that price the sale won’t happen and they’ll move on, as will we.
I think its less. 5-10m.
Why?
How often do we go from hearing a name for the first time to signing a player in less than 12 days?
Yes all of this is normal operations for a window but it's January 18th and they are posturing with a couple weeks to go. Their reported back up is toaster toes Timo which is quite the cliff edge from Garnacho.
Bit weird to me that they think they've got time to play the standard transfer games. They will need to wrap it up for us to have sufficient time to get Garnacho replaced too, especially noting Antony may advance to Betis.
As I said, if they said these things whilst being close to our valuation I'd get it, because they're sending a message that they aren't far off. But they're saying there's an expectation to sign garnacho on their conditions which is weird, given the second bid needs some revision.
They are racing against time but Napoli are also linked with Cherki and Zhegrova. If United want/have to sell before July then this will get interesting.
Personally I can't see Napoli spending big on him and expect Garnacho to stay. Napoli are already talking about signing Adeyemi in the summer
I've only seen the Werner link that came from Di Marzio (would be quite funny).
I dont think we need to sell Garnacho though. Getting Rashford, Casemiro, Lindelof, Malacia and maybe Antony off our books should be sufficient.
I think 'potential' from a fan's perspective is always simply an opinion anyway. There's a recurring theme with youngsters at United of huge initial fan excitement rapidly turning to resentment when people realise the player isn't George Best. It's become a difficult club for players to reach their full potential at imo.
Our strategic planning is terrible when we have to rely too much on too young players such as Mainoo and Garnacho.
Again, this is completely normal behaviour for any transfer window. Clubs will posture until the last day, let alone with weeks left.
I still don’t have the foggiest clue how completely normal transfer posturing between buying and selling clubs is “weird”. It’s the most normal thing imaginable.
Especially when you consider the fact that what is reported is only a fraction of what actually goes on behind the scenes without our knowledge.
You sure about that? List the players that are attainable if we sell him.
No, it's pretty weird for January 18th for the president to say something like this, especially when it's a smaller club coming to a big club for a marquee signing.
Its generally normal to do a whole song and dance for a window when there's time, with statements to the press and posturing. It's weird to do it when time is running out in the window to get a deal done. We don't need to be on the inside to know that January is a notoriously tricky month to do transfers generally let alone a marquee signing.
If they want him theyl have to be a fair bit closer to our valuation and theyl need to give us time to sort our replacement too. They will also need to know how long theyl need to secure the back up in case it fails with garnacho, and there's barely a couple weeks left.
The Werner links may die due to his injury. I do know that Cherki, Zhegrova, Yeremey Hernandez, Adeyemi have all been linked. Garnacho seems the priority but I wonder if it's just to appease the fans who are upset that Kvicha has been sold. Neres is deputising quite fine at the moment anyway.
Garna is apparently the one Conte really wants. I'm unsure on the others and also unsure on the quality drop from Garnacho to one of them.
But if they are looking at them seriously theyl need to cut a deal with those clubs and theyl need to have a buffer for the end of the window to do it. So whatever they're doing with us needs to be resolved in one way or another quite soon. We will also need to plan ourselves.
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