Alejandro Garnacho (out) | Chelsea make enquiries

I like Garnacho but losing him,Rashford,Anthony and Cas without replacing them this window would be madness.
I don’t trust Tight Jim to spend any money this winter transfer window.
I think we can let Rash and Cas go but nobody else as we need the squad players.
 
Circa £55m would probably be a fair price for him. Under £50m would feel like we've been short changed though, I'm not his biggest fan but he's very young, an Argentina international and his stats are respectable for his age. I don't see him being one of the best players in the world but he should have a good career.
 
pratyush_utd said:
Its insane isnt it. 20 year old are being written off in a season where he has scored 8 goals. He is inconsistent but guess what he is 20.

Some people have made up their minds against him and see problem in everything Garnacho is doing

By this definition Mainoo and Yoro should also be sold
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I think the issue is not this, it is not knee jerk based on last night

Garnacho has great moments, but these are against just as many if not more moments of him wasting scoring or creative opportunities.

Ok he is 20 and has already done so much, but have we overhyped him as a result? he came in almost like the 2nd coming of Ronaldo, and well the truth is he just ain't that, he is more the 2nd coming of Lee Sharpe.

Garna is relatively poor technically, he relies on speed and directness, he is not beating players with tricky footwork or deft skills.

With age he may become more consistent, Amorim may be able to add some aspects to his game, but if you look at it objectively right now Garna is not a world beater and he does not fit the bill for Amorim, in 6 months after Amorim has bought a few players Garna could well be warming the bench and his value dropping to sub £40m, if there is a deal to be made that benefits the club enabling us to bring in a couple of wing backs, then there is a discussion to be had, we are not in the position right now to ignore this and just roll the dice.
 
Reditus said:
this whole thing is depressing for me.

I absolutely dont want Utd to sell him. I had ignored this thread as I assumed it was a load of shite, but appears to be gathering a bit of steam
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Why is it depressing?

Most people seem very level headed about it - talented young player who is popular but doesn't really have a role in this setup. Unless you are not convinced Amorim will be here long (at this point who knows) being open to a big offer makes sense.

I think of Alvarez, I'd say a 'better' player overall but more around his peak (24) whereas with Garnacho he operates at a high level already and should still improve. That was a £65m initial fee, plus heavy add ons, that initial fee, to me, would be good business.
 
pratyush_utd said:
Its insane isnt it. 20 year old are being written off in a season where he has scored 8 goals. He is inconsistent but guess what he is 20.

Some people have made up their minds against him and see problem in everything Garnacho is doing

By this definition Mainoo and Yoro should also be sold
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Aye. If we get a huge offer I understand if the club sells him to create PSR leeway and reinvest with two players that fit Amorim's tactical needs. But just because he doesn't fit perfectly into Amorim's system doesn't negate the last year and a half where he has comfortably been our most dangerous player at 19 and 20 years old.
 
People saying if we get a bid above £50m then we need to sell. Have you not seen how the club spends £50m?

We spent £55m on Mount with 1 year left on his contract and a season spent injured. We spent £50m on Yoro with 1 year left on his contract.

I simply don’t trust the club to utilise that £50m a find a better player or potential than Garnacho has. That’s why it would be stupid to sell him now. If they were offering over £75m then maybe but that’s not going to happen.
 
Josep Dowling said:
People saying if we get a bid above £50m then we need to sell. Have you not seen how the club spends £50m?

We spent £55m on Mount with 1 year left on his contract and a season spent injured. We spent £50m on Yoro with 1 year left on his contract.

I simply don’t trust the club to utilise that £50m a find a better player or potential than Garnacho has. That’s why it would be stupid to sell him now. If they were offering over £75m then maybe but that’s not going to happen.
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Mount was not Ineos and Yoro was seen as a generational talent who would otherwise be lost to Madrid at the end of his contract, I have a lot more faith in Ineos than I have ever had in the Glazers, the deals they made in the summer were some of the best we have had post SAF in terms of value for money

Effectively swapping Garna for Mbeumo, Gittins or 2 wing backs, or Dibbling and WB it is very much a possibility especially if we can shift Case, Rashord, Antony and Malacia this month
 
Josep Dowling said:
People saying if we get a bid above £50m then we need to sell. Have you not seen how the club spends £50m?

We spent £55m on Mount with 1 year left on his contract and a season spent injured. We spent £50m on Yoro with 1 year left on his contract.

I simply don’t trust the club to utilise that £50m a find a better player or potential than Garnacho has. That’s why it would be stupid to sell him now. If they were offering over £75m then maybe but that’s not going to happen.
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Mount was signed by the previous regime, those people are gone

Yoro was wanted by other clubs, if we hadn't signed him when we did he would have almost certainly gone elsewhere

De Ligt, Ugarte and Maz have been good signings, Zirkzee, well the jury is out, so I'd argue that the current lot might actually know what they are doing
 
ThanksBoss26 said:
Hope we double check that Sancho obligation is watertight if they’re in for Garnacho :lol:
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One of the advantages of selling Garnacho is that presumably he's on 75-100k a week so Chelsea could easily offer him a wage bump with plenty of cash coming to us. They paid less for Sancho due to having to take on his massive wage.
 
Uncle Mainoo said:
That too, we can’t win. However Beth from United stand made a great point.. if the club don’t see him as a regular starter in Amorim’s system next year. Take the money and sign someone else. As like you said we won’t ever see that value again.
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I do struggle to imagine him fitting in to the system so would rather we take a decent offer in the summer if there is one
 
Red in STL said:
Mount was signed by the previous regime, those people are gone

Yoro was wanted by other clubs, if we hadn't signed him when we did he would have almost certainly gone elsewhere

De Ligt, Ugarte and Maz have been good signings, Zirkzee, well the jury is out, so I'd argue that the current lot might actually know what they are doing
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Good signings my arse. We sit 12th in the league. All these players still have questions marks around them. Ugarte had a shocker of a match last night to bottom of the league. De Ligt is a Dutch version of Maguire. Signing Yoro for that money when we had many issues in the squad was terrible planning. And he hasn’t looked amazing in the cameo appearances either. To say they have been great signings simply isn’t the truth.
 
I know they were big into amortizing expenses but at some point even that runs out? How can they still afford to spend a shitton on new signings.
 
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