Alejandro Garnacho (out) | Chelsea make enquiries

As I have already stated I do not have a problem selling our players, each and everyone has a price point, some I would want over the odds to sell, other I would happily take a loss to shift them out.

The problem I see is if we sell Garna, Rashford, Case and somehow Antony.... then Lindelof, Eriksen and Evans leave in the summer, we are down to brass tacks in terms of numbers and saleable assets, where do we go from there?

The Glazers and Woodward have made such a mess of the clubs finances, especially over the last 4-5 years that unless Amorim make the most of this and the summer window we could be hamstrung for years paying down enough of the debt to be able to operate effectively in the transfer market.
 
Zed 101 said:
As I have already stated I do not have a problem selling our players, each and everyone has a price point, some I would want over the odds to sell, other I would happily take a loss to shift them out.

The problem I see is if we sell Garna, Rashford, Case and somehow Antony.... then Lindelof, Eriksen and Evans leave in the summer, we are down to brass tacks in terms of numbers and saleable assets, where do we go from there?

The Glazers and Woodward have made such a mess of the clubs finances, especially over the last 4-5 years that unless Amorim make the most of this and the summer window we could be hamstrung for years paying down enough of the debt to be able to operate effectively in the transfer market.
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And you can guarantee the same people would be moaning once we sell the players.
 
Would be happy to let him go if that means we can go out and replace him with Xavi Simons and Nuno Mendes
 
gaffs said:
Three reasons why he should be sold....

1) He doesn't fit the profile of the 10s that Amorim had at Sporting - Goncalves and Trincao. Both more technical and comfortable in tight areas, playing more central and in their passing and link up play. Could Garnacho be remoulded to play like them? Maybe, but it it could take time. And this is of course assuming that Amorim wants his 10s at United to have those same profiles.

2) PSR. United have been awful in transfer dealings for the ten years. Some of the worst of that came under ETH. At some point, you have to pay for these mistakes if you want to progress. The players that most fans want rid of are the ones with little to no sell on value. Some like Lindelof, Evans and Eriksen will leave on frees at the end of the season and they will have to be replaced. Sell Garnacho and it allows us to go into the market and potentially bring in 2 or 3 players with that money in the summer as we can amortize the transfer fee and wages over the length of the contracts.

3) Amorim is a manager that needs profiles of players we dont currently have, namely wingbacks and creative 10s. Plus, we still dont look to have an ideal fit at center forward. If we dont sell, how are we going to be able to bring in the profiles he needs? The recruitment needs to be fast forwarded or else we may be a work in progress for some time. With INEOS and Jim beng inpatient, does he get that time?
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The third point is the key one
 
He's going to end up going for just over 50 mil pounds.

If that happens there will be nothing INEOS can do to turn my opinion, they either don't know what Manchester United is about, or they know and are spitting in the face of it. Either way have no business being associated with this club.

And anyone pretending this is tactical and anything other than purely financial, you're the perfect glazer/ineos apologists.
 
Never thought I’d see the day we are selling our most talented players for financial reasons.
 
Disgrace if he goes it won’t be long before Jim and his crew are demonstrated against they’re fecking clueless
 
redNATION said:
Napoli insist on inflated fees for their players, we should be pushing for 90-100m, he’s one of the best young players in Europe.
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They're looking to replace Khvicha Kvaratskhelia, who they sold for £60m. They're probably not going to do that by spending much more than they got, on an inferior player.
 
Utterly De Ligt'd said:
He's going to end up going for just over 50 mil pounds.

If that happens there will be nothing INEOS can do to turn my opinion, they either don't know what Manchester United is about, or they know and are spitting in the face of it. Either way have no business being associated with this club.

And anyone pretending this is tactical and anything other than purely financial, you're the perfect glazer/ineos apologists.
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In full agreement about time the supporters vented at this lot.
 
What would happen from a PSR perspective if we did a deal where we sold Garnacho and bought Osimhen for the same fee?

Sure that would be good for PSR as it's £Xm pure profit, and the purchase is amortised over an Xyr contract, right?
 
Jericholyte2 said:
What would happen from a PSR perspective if we did a deal where we sold Garnacho and bought Osimhen for the same fee?

Sure that would be good for PSR as it's £Xm pure profit, and the purchase is amortised over an Xyr contract, right?
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Ignoring wage differentials, it would be an initial boost, with corresponding future losses, and over time it would make no difference.
 
I wouldn't be over the moon about selling him but that's largely because of the unknown element around replacing him.

If I had to choose between Garnacho and Gyokeres then I'd probably choose the latter so really it's a matter of funds.
 
strandty said:
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Napoli can shove their 40m, 1 euro/pound/dollar at a time. They’re so brazen. They’d be quoting us double that, and they are, for an unwanted player, who is older, has much less time left on his contract, and is currently puttering around in a shit league.

I’m tired of us getting fleeced for every player we buy and then letting our players go for peanuts. What did they pay for McTominay? A soggy pizza and a glass of wine?
 
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I now think this will happen. Surely all the noise and interest would suggest that Napoli has had encouragement from Garnacho's camp.
 
£55mil and call it quits. We have a lot of talented 10's coming up behind him from the youth teams and there will be no shortage of targets to go after who play a role more fitting the system.
 
NotThatSoph said:
They're looking to replace Khvicha Kvaratskhelia, who they sold for £60m. They're probably not going to do that by spending much more than they got, on an inferior player.
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They should start shopping for lesser players then. We're under no obligation to help them restore their team by flogging them quality players for discount prices.
 
Utterly De Ligt'd said:
He's going to end up going for just over 50 mil pounds.

If that happens there will be nothing INEOS can do to turn my opinion, they either don't know what Manchester United is about, or they know and are spitting in the face of it. Either way have no business being associated with this club.

And anyone pretending this is tactical and anything other than purely financial, you're the perfect glazer/ineos apologists.
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What is Man Utd about at the moment though, huge debt, over rated and overpaid players, a mid table team with no relevance in the Champions League.

I have no issue with Garnacho being sold for a big fee if it is to raise funds to reinvest and rebuild the team and try and break the cycle we are in. With PSR now finance is more important than ever and we are massively handicapped because of a legacy of failure and bad transfers/contracts.

A lot of our players are unsellable and one way to try and speed up the squad being dismantled and rebuilt is a big sale, I don’t like it but it’s one way forward.
 
witchtrials said:
They should start shopping for lesser players then. We're under no obligation to help them restore their team by flogging them quality players for discount prices.
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Lower than 90m is not a discount, that's an insane price that no club in the world will ever consider. The reported 70m also sounds very optimistic to me for a player like Garnacho, especially from Napoli, but who knows.
 
It's shit. Having to sell him because we can't get rid of turd players on insane wages. It's vexing.
 
NotThatSoph said:
Lower than 90m is not a discount, that's an insane price that no club in the world will ever consider. The reported 70m also sounds very optimistic to me for a player like Garnacho, especially from Napoli, but who knows.
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Yoro is a similar profile of player, albeit one who has not yet performed at as high a level as Garnacho - we just paid something around £53m for him.

Bearing in mind that Garnacho is an attacker (who always attract a much bigger fee than defenders) a fee anywhere close to £53m is nowhere near his true value and is clearly a knock down price.

If Garnacho had produced his performances from the last year playing for another Premier League side and we were trying to sign him does anyone think we would get him for anything close to £50m? Of course we wouldn't.
 
NotThatSoph said:
Lower than 90m is not a discount, that's an insane price that no club in the world will ever consider. The reported 70m also sounds very optimistic to me for a player like Garnacho, especially from Napoli, but who knows.
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We paid €70m euros (including add ons) for Yoro, who had a year left on his contract and is a defender. Garnacho is worth more.
 
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