Alejandro Garnacho (out) | Chelsea make enquiries

[Berbaclass]

Once you need to make decisions like that purely on finances and regulations, you're fecked

Yeah but here we are after 20 years of the Glazers. That is our reality.

 

[ErikElevenHag]

Why don't we sell Garnacho to Nice for 100m euros and buy him for 100m over the next 5 years?

Because there are established rules to stop this from happening. We couldn't sign Tobido in the summer for this reason.

 

[ErikElevenHag]

Yes true but who could we realistically afford that is so much better? Cashflow is still a problem, not just regulations

They don't have to be so much better than Garnacho though do they?

They need to be competent to play one of the roles in this current set up, which Garnacho appears incapable of doing so far.

 

[hellhunter]

They don't have to be so much better than Garnacho though do they?

They need to be competent to play one of the roles in this current set up, which Garnacho appears incapable of doing so far.

Nonsense

 

[AngeloHenriquez]

From a PSR perspective its's 60M in the accounts now whereas £55m for Dibbling would be spread across five years.

It's the same strategy that Chelsea have been using.

Please stop spreading this, it doesn't matter how you account for it, it will still need to be paid, we will just have a smaller and smaller window each year and we will be sell to before in the summer if we carry on.

If Mount was 55, Dibling is 60 than 60 for Garnacho who is more experienced, proven, Argentinian regular and most goal involvements for anyone his age - 60m for him is AWFUL business.

 

[ShinjiNinja26]

No deals allowed between our clubs

Only because we’re in the same European competition, come the summer deals like this will be back on the table as I can’t see us finishing in any European places this season or qualifying by way of winning a cup like last time.

 

[Posh Red]

From a PSR perspective its's 60M in the accounts now whereas £55m for Dibbling would be spread across five years.

It's the same strategy that Chelsea have been using.

It’s not related to the strategy that Chelsea have been using

 

[hellhunter]

Only because we’re in the same European competition, come the summer deals like this will be back on the table as I can’t see us finishing in any European places this season.

Fair point. Wouldn't be shocked if we were the first club done for it though.

Edit: think we're only allowed to do business with Nice after the summer window closes

 

[Escobar]

They don't have to be so much better than Garnacho though do they?

They need to be competent to play one of the roles in this current set up, which Garnacho appears incapable of doing so far.

Garnacho made crucial assists lately, was one of the better players last season and is a top talent. If we want to improve as a team, we need players who make us better

 

[Escobar]

Yeah but here we are after 20 years of the Glazers. That is our reality.

So you would be fine to sell Garnacho?

 

[Berbaclass]

So you would be fine to sell Garnacho?

I think it suits both parties so yes.

 

[hellhunter]

So you would be fine to sell Garnacho?

Are you kidding? He's been outright excited about selling Garnacho for weeks now

 

[The holy trinity 68]

I know this is probably a bit simplistic, but we then surely need to sell a player for £50m profit every year to balance the books across the 5 years?

So who is the sacrificial lamb next year?

It's all so stupid. Like living your life on the credit card.

The club makes money in more ways than just transfers.

 

[soapythecat]

Garnacho has loads of potential but he’s been poor this season. We’ve squandered many chances and he’s clearly not a right fit for 343. There are many others I’d shift before him if we thought possible but they aren’t pushing for moves. The club has been forced to sell and there is nothing we can do about it. This ain’t the fault of Ineos it’s old decisions coming home to bit us in the ass. I do think we could replace with a more suitable player though.

 

[hellhunter]

The club makes money in more ways than just transfers.

Do you expect us to have more income next year that this year?

 

[Berbaclass]

Are you kidding? He's been outright excited about selling Garnacho for weeks now

I'm not excited.

Maybe it's you who imagined me being excited which is interesting.

 

[hellhunter]

I'm not excited.

Maybe it's you who imagined me being excited which is interesting.

I do that all the time to be fair!

 

[Berbaclass]

I do that all the time to be fair!

Thought as much

 

[REDARMY45]

Taking that at face value, guesses who they might be?

Dibbling Cunha

 

[bosnian_red]

Seems like it’s edging closer which is really disappointing.

For £60 million to Chelsea, we’ve essentially swapped him for Mount.

What does £60 million even get you thesedays?

That's an absolute travesty. We get a crock on higher wages and a lesser talent while they get one of our most exciting attacking talents. Sickening.

 

[Rolaholic]

Taking that at face value, guesses who they might be?

Dibling

 

[Berbaclass]

Replacing Garnacho with Dibling would be a bit dumb. The point of selling him is to buy someone a bit more established who fits and works in the system now. Dibling isn't that.

I can see Cunha/Mbuemo but Dibling for me shouldn't be a priority.

 

[dubplate warrior]

Replacing Garnacho with Dibling would be a bit dumb. The point of selling him is to buy someone a bit more established who fits and works in the system now. Dibling isn't that.

I can see Cunha/Mbuemo but Dibling for me shouldn't be a priority

He's an excellent talent and I wouldn't mind going for him in the summer as a rotation with Amad. He absolutely has the traits required to play as an inside 10.

Cunha would elevate the entire teams attacking threat. I don't see why he'd want to come though.

 

[Berbaclass]

He's an excellent talent and I wouldn't mind going for him in the summer as a rotation with Amad. He absolutely has the traits required to play as an inside 10.

Cunha would elevate the entire teams attacking threat. I don't see why he'd want to come though.

I like him as a player but I don't think he is an upgrade on Garnacho currently. Potential is a different discussion but we need players to come in and perform immediately.

 

[stevoc]

Season is a write off

It shouldn't be as that attitude last season lead us to where we currently are. Plus Garnacho is 20 years old. He would have many seasons here.

United selling a promising young Academy product and a winger at that is a sign of where the club is headed I suppose.

 

[SparcMac]

Once you need to make decisions like that purely on finances and regulations, you're fecked

Tbh Chelsea has been buying and selling young players/academy players since the deep of Abramovic era and that's why they have got away with murder in their previous squad rebuilds. They took one transfer ban still once they got too greedy. But this tactic in general helps a team whose academy can produce.

Refresh my memory, outside of Elanga in recent times, who we have sold from academy in the north of 10m?

 

[Champ]

Tbh Chelsea has been buying and selling young players/academy players since the deep of Abramovic era and that's why they have got away with murder in their previous squad rebuilds. They took one transfer ban still once they got too greedy. But this tactic in general helps a team whose academy can produce.

Refresh my memory, outside of Elanga in recent times, who we have sold from academy in the north of 10m?

Greenwood, McTominay, Pereira, Garner, you'll be able to lump Rashford in there too soon.

 

[shogunrua]

I don't mind if the price is right.

But how do we get a replacement in at this stage of the window. Might as well keep him until the summer if it's purely for PSR. He will not have a lack of suitors come July and we can't possibly drop his value any further than this

 

[bond19821982]

Replacing Garnacho with Dibling would be a bit dumb. The point of selling him is to buy someone a bit more established who fits and works in the system now. Dibling isn't that.

I can see Cunha/Mbuemo but Dibling for me shouldn't be a priority.

Eze or Cunha or for me.

 

[Berbaclass]

Eze or Cunha or for me.

Eze is a good shout yeah. Not been as good this season too so would probably be cheaper.

 

[Berbaclass]

 

[hellhunter]

Their weighing up game is equally strong as our considering to prepare a bid game

 

[Judas]

I would be so excited if he was a little bit younger and not made of ritz crackers.

 

[The holy trinity 68]

Do you expect us to have more income next year that this year?

Well considering PSR is only based on the last 3 years, and the club is doing what they can to make cuts then yes.

I am expecting Rashford and Casemiro to leave in June, Eriksen and Evans are at the end of their contracts also, thats a lot of money saved in wages. Plus the former 2 will probably go for a fee.

 

[Dave Smith]

Well considering PSR is only based on the last 3 years, and the club is doing what they can to make cuts then yes.

I am expecting Rashford and Casemiro to leave in June, Eriksen and Evans are at the end of their contracts also, thats a lot of money saved in wages. Plus the former 2 will probably go for a fee.

Who is paying a fee for Rashford on £350k, who by all accounts is not willing to give up any money? As for Case who is paying a fee for him?

 

[hellhunter]

Well considering PSR is only based on the last 3 years, and the club is doing what they can to make cuts then yes.

I am expecting Rashford and Casemiro to leave in June, Eriksen and Evans are at the end of their contracts also, thats a lot of money saved in wages. Plus the former 2 will probably go for a fee.

Fair enough on Eriksen and Evans leaving us. At the same time, we'll likely end up without any kind of European football, which hasn't happened the last three accounting years

 

[Berbaclass]

Fair enough on Eriksen and Evans leaving us. At the same time, we'll likely end up without any kind of European football, which hasn't happened the last three accounting years

What do you mean we are winning the EL

 

[croadyman]

For the people happy to sell him, do you expect us to get in an attacking replacement before the window closes? A replacement that improves us, not necessarily individually but as a team?

Personally don't see it, if only because time is running out. And not doing so would surely leave us ridiculously light up front

I'm not happy for us to sell him, unfortunately I fear we are powerless to stop it due to PSR. Wish we could pull some levers to sell things like Barca and Chelsea have made an art of doing

 

[Kostov]

Because there are established rules to stop this from happening. We couldn't sign Tobido in the summer for this reason.

Obviously we are either run by incompetent imbeciles or greedy corporate Ineos puppets, when Chelsea can do whatever they want selling hotels to boost their profits while we have to sell Garnacho to supposedly save the club.

 

[croadyman]

I think our fans are being too emotional about his potential sale and our not looking at the bigger picture. Looking at tonight's team performance it clearly showed we need a striker who can score. Plus his contribution also highlighted his biggest weaknesses which was putting the ball in the net and needing about 4 good chances to score. Lastly for all of his running, he hardly created chances for his fellow players, which is criminal against low level opposition considering the formation was lopsided to accommodate his style.

If we can get 60 to 65M for him sign striker who will help us score goals, its a very reasonable trade. Plus his sale means in terms of PSR it will give us a lot of room to sign players in the summer as well.

Who is that striker we can get now then, Ruben won't move for Gyokeres until summer, Osimhen has no intention of ending loan with Galatasaray and Sesko seems more interested in Arsenal. Anyone?