Fair enough, so this one goes down as a strategic/tactical decision and not a financial decision. I actually the job Garnacho does for us even though his finishing is still immature, but if we really can find a proper LWB for the half the price we sell Garnacho for and if Amorim believes he has no use for Garnacho, I stand being the manager.
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Fair enough, so this one goes down as a strategic/tactical decision and not a financial decision. I actually the job Garnacho does for us even though his finishing is still immature, but if we really can find a proper LWB for the half the price we sell Garnacho for and if Amorim believes he has no use for Garnacho, I stand being the manager.
£60 million
Looks like Napoli are officially out with the deal for Adeyemi seemingly agreed and judging by the latest comments from Maresca I don't see Chelsea following through on their alleged interest. I still have a feeling that we are going to end up sacrificing Mainoo to fix our financial issues.
typical of this club when selling him would be the only way to bank a psr profit.
In the summer I am sure the few clubs interested in Rashford now (Barca, Milan, Dortmund) will have more money available and may be willing to pay £20m or so.
Casemiro, Saudi clubs may renew their interest in the summer.
I am not sure there was ever any interest for them to renew outside of speculation from transfer grifters. I rather think Casemiro might exit in the summer but only through mutual termination of his contact so he can make a move back to Brazil for a final hurrah or something.
Rashford might be a harder sell in the summer than now in the sense that clubs have more time and more options and so what little appeal he has won't be enough of a draw. Our best bet is either Dortmund opt for a loan to plug the gap left by Adeyemi or Barca manage to shift a player or two to get him in now. We then have to pray to any and every deity that he has one of his purple patches and does enough to trigger some interest in a permanent move in the summer.
60m is cheap to a Premier League rival, find it hard to believe we’d accept that but maybe I’m underestimating how desperate we are.
It is still mostly a financial decision, selling Garnacho as an academy product counts as pure profit in PSR terms, for sake of easy maths lets say we got 50M, it enables us to spend, in theory as much as 250M, obviously we aren't spending that much but spending 80-100M isn't wholly unrealistic, and for that we should be able to get a couple of decent players in.
Mount was £55 Million.So the same as what we paid for Mount. Nice nice nice
55m +5m in bonuses, so it's the same
I like the optimism
No, it's not the same.
I think he’s worth a bit more than that.
I’m on the fence with this one. I like Garnacho a lot, and I think he’s talented. On the other hand, he’s had some disciplinary issues, doesn’t really fit the profile of a 10 or a wing back in this system and isn’t the best technically (compare with Amad for instance)
Time will tell if this will be a good move or a disaster. Not many players seem to go between the United and Chelsea and do all that well to be honest.
Why would we bank 60m for PSR any only pay 10m?
We'd still pay 50, but amortised to 10m/year for PSR (assuming a five year contract)
Because sales can be recorded on the balance sheet as the full fee now, but purchases, the fee can be spread over a maximum of 5 years so 50m over 5 years is 10m.
Why would anybody pay more than 30m at a stretch for Nkunku? You paid 52m and he went on to have 2 seasons of constant injuries and now half a season of clearly having no role in the team. Even 30m is being generous.
Loan and option to buy for 25m like you lot did for Sancho is pretty much what somebody should expect for him. Though I guess it's United and we're run by idiots, so who knows
Chelsea staff putting in the overtime on a Friday night!
Wouldn’t know whether to laugh or cry if that happened. Nkunku is the sort of player we’d be loaning out, selling for a cut price fee and giving a payoff to leave. Totally inept if we sell Garnacho for as little as 60m and spend any of it on Nkunku.
This is madness. So we're better off -- financially that is, meaning the Glazers are further enriched -- by depleting the club of outstanding young talent rather than cutting our losses on deadwood such as Casemiro, Antony and Onana?
Do club supporters only exist as props only to fatten the bellies of scumbags like the Glazers who feast at banquet while we watch our club sink further and further down the table as each season passes by? If this is how it has to be, I'm out.
A Sancho like deal sounds somewhat fair and realistic
You are not out. We are building character and it started after Sir Alex left.
This sale is happening so the club have more funds available to back Amorim, the money will be reinvested, this sale is not to line the Glazers pockets.
Yeah United should never be a club who looks to sell their best talents to then spend money on random other players. That's not what this club is about. Find another way to make your money.
Selling him would be up there with the most brain dead decisions this club has made.
He's young and talented enough to adapt to new positions and find his way into the team. Rather than immediately strengthening a direct rival.
And if, as history suggests, Amorin doesn't work out and we go back to a back 4, we've lost our most dangerous attacker.
When you see it written down like that, with this club, it might aswell be a done deal.
He's young and talented enough to adapt to new positions and find his way into the team. Rather than immediately strengthening a direct rival.
And if, as history suggests, Amorin doesn't work out and we go back to a back 4, we've lost our most dangerous attacker.
When you see it written down like that, with this club, it might aswell be a done deal.
Not enough to sell to a Premier League team.
I'd be disappointed to see him sold, even more so to a Premier League team
I'd be disappointed to see him sold, even more so to a Premier League team
He is 2* Sancho
1. United is not a club who should be selling our best academy talents to fund random other signings. That's not what we as a club should stand for.
2. What makes you so confident the money will be reinvested? Hell even Whitwell on the latest pod was saying he could see it that we just sell Garnacho and not reinvest it as a way to calm our finances down and get out of the red (as in, dump our assets to fix the problems the owners created rather than the owners investing their own money).
Piss off Chelsea!
The club is clearly only trying to sign Dorgu after the Garnacho transfer started to gain traction, so yeah the club is wanting to back Amorim with his own players, and selling the only player with real value is the way to do that.
I hate to break it to you but United now are not in the same position as they once were, so I don't think you should be getting on the high horse with (the club is not a club that should be selling the best talents. United sold Beckham when he was the best player, the club sold Ronaldo when he was the best player.
Garnacho is not even that good anyway, is second fiddle behind Bruno and Amad and can't play as a 10.
This isn't a case of United selling a top player who wanted out or fell out. It's the club starting to sell our best academy talents to make money for other transfers. That's what I fundamentally disagree with. Find other ways to make money, be smarter with your signings.
If the club is seriously selling Garnacho to then go and spend over the odds on fecking Dorgu, then we've all lost our minds. He's some random left back who has had 1 year in senior football playing for a relegation candidate in serie A. Might be a decent talent. He's probably not ready to do much in this league. He's definitely not as good a talent as Garnacho.
Garnacho is not a bad player but he's not a great one either, he's clearly decent but would never have broke through United 10 years ago.
If the money can be spend on 1-2 players who fit Amorims system, then sell sell sell.
If the money can be spend on 1-2 players who fit Amorims system, then sell sell sell.
I don't mind selling him abroad, but selling him to Chelsea would leave a very sour taste.
Yep, selling a 20 year old potentially great academy winger to a rival to raise funds is just sickening.
It's an absolute shame. And you know we're gonna piss away that money. There's a reason we've spent 1B+ and secured very few good players over the last decade. I have little faith that will change.
feck the Glazers. feck INEOS.
Unfortunately the last 10 years of the club being ran terribly has led to this, Ineos are doing this to try and get out of the shit and sort the mess out.
Dorgu costing £25m is only going to cost £5m in year 1, which leaves £55m of the Garnacho funds.
Garnacho is not as good as you and others are making out, and he is not suited to this Amorim system. His sale makes sense and I am not really bothered if he is sold.
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