Alejandro Garnacho (out) | Chelsea make enquiries

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I'd feel a lot better about the transfer if I knew who we were bringing in.

Who would you like to see realistically, honestly with Rashford frozen out we need two attackers with other being more of a proper 9.
 
Who is that striker we can get now then, Ruben won't move for Gyokeres until summer, ?

We won't be getting Gyökeres full stop, in my opinion. Come the summer have a choice of clubs and we look for all the world like we'll still be a shambles on the pitch and off.

The only way we are likely to land him is if we blow all other wage offers out of the water... a strategy that has not been working perfectly for us.
 

If we sell Garnacho to Chelsea just to sign Nkunku then I’m done for the season seeing as Nkunku is as injury prone as Shaw and it’d be yet another large wasted amount of money on transfer fees and wages seeing as he’s on £200K a week.
 
If we sell Garnacho to Chelsea just to sign Nkunku then I’m done for the season seeing as Nkunku is as injury prone as Shaw and it’d be yet another large wasted amount of money on transfer fees and wages seeing as he’s on £200K a week.

Yeah but this club is stupid enough unfortunately
 
Just dropped by the shed end, Chelsea fans really don't want this deal to happen. Like really don't.

On a plus point though, if we did sell for 70 mil. Couldn't we bid 50 mil for Stiller and get Cherki for 20 odd. That would be 2 massive deals
 
If we sell Garnacho to Chelsea just to sign Nkunku then I’m done for the season seeing as Nkunku is as injury prone as Shaw and it’d be yet another large wasted amount of money on transfer fees and wages seeing as he’s on £200K a week.

He's been injury free for nine months. He had a horrible last season injury wise, and a pretty bad one before that, otherwise more or less nothing his whole career.
 
70m being quoted for Nkunku, surely Garnacho is worth double for the sole reason that he is not injury prone disaster like the frenchman.
 
If you think anybody is giving you £50m for Nkunku you may need to lie down for a while.

I’m not saying I advocate for it but that I could just see some insane reciprocity in a deal for PSR. It seems like it’s gathering steam now too
 
Not fussed at all if this happens or not but musing:

Garnacho > Chelsea £60m
Nkunku > Utd £50m

Utd bank £60m for PSR and only £10m cost per season for Nkunku

Chelsea sell Nkunku and make a small book profit

Not saying i’m an oracle or anything…
 
What's the issue with Garnacho anyway? I thought he was regular starter at United, and a solid part of the rotation when he isn't starting? Is it Amorim's new system that has made him a bit of a square peg in a round hole? I don't understand why United would be open to selling him to us.
 
What's the issue with Garnacho anyway? I thought he was regular starter at United, and a solid part of the rotation when he isn't starting? Is it Amorim's new system that has made him a bit of a square peg in a round hole? I don't understand why United would be open to selling him to us.
They are in a pretty rough place financially
 
If we sell Garnacho to Chelsea just to sign Nkunku then I’m done for the season seeing as Nkunku is as injury prone as Shaw and it’d be yet another large wasted amount of money on transfer fees and wages seeing as he’s on £200K a week.
That would be utter stupidity. I don't believe we will do this.
 
Selling a fantastic young prospect such as Garnacho is unbecoming of a club of United's pedigree. If we're throwing in the towel on ever competing for major trophies again then so be it and we can all attend to more rewarding things in life than stuffing money into the pockets of greedy 'stards who couldn't give a spit about our hopes and dreams for Manchester United.
 
What's the issue with Garnacho anyway? I thought he was regular starter at United, and a solid part of the rotation when he isn't starting? Is it Amorim's new system that has made him a bit of a square peg in a round hole? I don't understand why United would be open to selling him to us.
United is apparently broke and has no money to buy players, so the owners are looking at our star youngsters as sales for PSR since we are stuck with Rashford, Casemiro etc to waste away on big wages.

A financially healthy United would never sell Garnacho. He's a future star, and a brilliant talent and would walk into your starting 11 IMO, giving you a real x-factor from either wing and instantly being your most impactful and exciting winger. He's young and inconsistent but has absolutely top potential.

There's the slight issue with Amorim at United that he doesn't use wingers, but even still Garnacho is always a threat and we have absolutely feck all going on in our attack aside from him and Amad that it's dumb (and short sighted) to sell.
 
Selling a fantastic young prospect such as Garnacho is unbecoming of a club of United's pedigree. If we're throwing in the towel on ever competing for major trophies again then so be it and we can all attend to more rewarding things in life than stuffing money into the pockets of greedy 'stards who couldn't give a spit about our hopes and dreams for Manchester United.
What's unbecoming is the financial hole the club is in and the measures that will have to be taken to resolve it, the reality is if you want to get the team back to competing then we need buy better players, and to buy better players we need to sell some, Garnacho is one of the few players we get a decent amount of money for who also is best in a position we no longer play with, it's not a great position to be in but selling him is probably the least worst option overall
 
Is it? He's a better player than Sancho, Neto, Madueke or Mudryk. And he absolutely has huge potential
His current level is pretty average. He has the potential to improve obviously, but he's nowhere near that top level right now. I wouldn't say that he's currently better than any of Sancho, Neto or Madueke. It's very debatable at least.
 
If we sell Garnacho to Chelsea just to sign Nkunku then I’m done for the season seeing as Nkunku is as injury prone as Shaw and it’d be yet another large wasted amount of money on transfer fees and wages seeing as he’s on £200K a week.

You could engage in PSR shithousery. Chelsea and Villa are masters at that. Both Garnacho and Nkunku will transfer for inflated fees and we get to book pure profit on Garnacho. Say Garnacho 100M and Nkunku for 60.

In reality we're getting Nkunku + 40M for Garnacho. It's still a shit deal, don't want yet another injury prone Chelsea player but saying hypothetically. We could do it for one of their rando youth prospects too.
 
Selling a fantastic young prospect such as Garnacho is unbecoming of a club of United's pedigree. If we're throwing in the towel on ever competing for major trophies again then so be it and we can all attend to more rewarding things in life than stuffing money into the pockets of greedy 'stards who couldn't give a spit about our hopes and dreams for Manchester United.
Why would selling Garnacho mean we've given up on competing for major trophies ever again? I get the frustration of selling a good youth player but cmon.

All indications are that the club is doing their best to stop stuffing money into the pockets of greedy stars.
 
What's unbecoming is the financial hole the club is in and the measures that will have to be taken to resolve it, the reality is if you want to get the team back to competing then we need buy better players, and to buy better players we need to sell some, Garnacho is one of the few players we get a decent amount of money for who also is best in a position we no longer play with, it's not a great position to be in but selling him is probably the least worst option overall

Do we or do we not bring in a better player than Garnacho at his position? If the answer is yes, and here is his name (fill in the name here), and it only requires that we spend let's say 20m of the 40m we hauled in when we sold, Garnacho, we're in the black 20m on the deal.

Unless we have a youth player, the next Garnacho, ready to step up to the first team and perform at Garnacho's level, are you telling me that selling Garnacho and netting 20m on the two transactions -- the sell and the buy to replace him -- really makes the difference between competing and not competing for major trophies?
 
Do we or do we not bring in a better player than Garnacho at his position? If the answer is yes, and here is his name (fill in the name here), and it only requires that we spend let's say 20m of the 40m we hauled in when we sold, Garnacho, we're in the black 20m on the deal.

Unless we have a youth player, the next Garnacho, ready to step up to the first team and perform at Garnacho's level, are you telling me that selling Garnacho and netting 20m on the two transactions -- the sell and the buy to replace him -- really makes the difference between competing and not competing for major trophies?
We don't play with wingers so we don't need to replace his position, we do need a LWB and striker, those players may not be better individually than Garnacho but they would make us a better team, I'm not suggesting it be any of the Chelsea players mention, just the reasoning for a sale
 
United is apparently broke and has no money to buy players, so the owners are looking at our star youngsters as sales for PSR since we are stuck with Rashford, Casemiro etc to waste away on big wages.

A financially healthy United would never sell Garnacho. He's a future star, and a brilliant talent and would walk into your starting 11 IMO, giving you a real x-factor from either wing and instantly being your most impactful and exciting winger. He's young and inconsistent but has absolutely top potential.

There's the slight issue with Amorim at United that he doesn't use wingers, but even still Garnacho is always a threat and we have absolutely feck all going on in our attack aside from him and Amad that it's dumb (and short sighted) to sell.

That is overrating Garnacho by a lot... I'd like him to stay but he is definitely not what you described. He is a decent young PL winger.
 
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