Alejandro Garnacho (out) | Chelsea make enquiries

I mean what the actually feck is going on with this club at the minute? Selling Garnacho? let alone selling him to Chelsea? Its feels like we’re hitting rock bottom right now, the negativity is awful.

PSR, redundancies, selling some of our most promising players.

I just don’t know what to make of all this bollocks to be honest.

Why couldn’t that Arab fella been real and not just an AI creation to make us all think Ratcliffe was a good idea

Yeah just our luck we got the fake sheikh whereas City and Newcastle hit the jackpot
 
We can do things in the transfer market which other clubs can only dream of. Watch this space...

How different 10 years down the line.
 
I think our fans are being too emotional about his potential sale and our not looking at the bigger picture. Looking at tonight's team performance it clearly showed we need a striker who can score. Plus his contribution also highlighted his biggest weaknesses which was putting the ball in the net and needing about 4 good chances to score. Lastly for all of his running, he hardly created chances for his fellow players, which is criminal against low level opposition considering the formation was lopsided to accommodate his style.

If we can get 60 to 65M for him sign striker who will help us score goals, its a very reasonable trade. Plus his sale means in terms of PSR it will give us a lot of room to sign players in the summer as well.
 
I thought he couldn't play in this system? Looked as dangerous as Amad to me. So many players want the boot before this kid.
Amad was playing as a winback, and even then Garnacho was playing closer to the touchline than he was. It forced Malacia to underlap into the 10 position instead, which is not where we want Malacia.

Also, was he really dangerous? took som decent long shot efforts and missed a great chance that he got on a plate.
 
I think our fans are being too emotional about his potential sale and our not looking at the bigger picture. Looking at tonight's team performance it clearly showed we need a striker who can score. Plus his contribution also highlighted his biggest weaknesses which was putting the ball in the net and needing about 4 good chances to score. Lastly for all of his running, he hardly created chances for his fellow players, which is criminal against low level opposition considering the formation was lopsided to accommodate his style.

If we can get 60 to 65M for him sign striker who will help us score goals, its a very reasonable trade. Plus his sale means in terms of PSR it will give us a lot of room to sign players in the summer as well.
I think the goal is to go after Gyokores at the end of the season, but that would require selling one of Hojlund or Zirkzee. And I still can't decide who to keep. At least Hojlund is a little younger but he'll be harder to get value back at his current state. I think we can at least get our money back for Zirkzee but I doubt we make a profit on him

Selling Garnacho would help because teams wouldn't be able to use our financial situation to twist our arm but I don't think now is the time to sell him. At least wait until the summer to potentially get more suitors in the mix
 
I mean what the actually feck is going on with this club at the minute? Selling Garnacho? let alone selling him to Chelsea? Its feels like we’re hitting rock bottom right now, the negativity is awful.

PSR, redundancies, selling some of our most promising players.

I just don’t know what to make of all this bollocks to be honest.

Why couldn’t that Arab fella been real and not just an AI creation to make us all think Ratcliffe was a good idea

To be fair Ratcliffe was a season ticket holder at Chelsea
This is not meant as a serious comment...
 
We can do things in the transfer market which other clubs can only dream of. Watch this space...

How different 10 years down the line.
We actually did things in the transfer market that are unique and probably won't be repeated. Someone should make a movie: "How to destroy a football club in ten transfer windows"
 
Sell the best attacking prospect we've had come through in years, sell.tickets to Rangers fans and have people tell you online that it's ok because we are trying to buy a left back from Lecce noone has ever heard of. This club.
 
Meanwhile at the Shed End (Chelsea fan forum)…

I've already come to terms we are signing this Richard Ramirez Cristiano Ronaldo wannabe.

A waste of space coming in to to replace another waste of space. Brilliant use of funds.
Recently the directors seem to have gotten more right than wrong, with transfer targets such as Duran, Samu, Barcola, etc.

I’m not a fan of Garnacho at all but I will give him time if he joins the club and maybe the directors see something in him that pretty much everybody doesn’t.

One thing that’s for certain though, he’ll be much better than Mudryk.
Garnacho is a good player for his age but not that much better than what we already have. Factor in the transfer fee and it makes this a very strange signing.
Seriously. This club..

Not good enough and not what we need at all.
So £55 million for this gremlin another £25 million for Sancho, a combined £80 million for Utd to buy Gyokeres in the summer. Excellent business.
We sign one of their flops on loan with an obligation to buy at the end of the season, and now we are trying to sign their other player that plays in the same position who also struggles. These two players played for a United team that struggled to create chances or score goals, yet we think they are good enough for us? These signings will do nothing but drag us down.
sh*t.

Napoli out the picture now, their owner de Laurentiis basically dissed him, saying “who is going to score me 20 goals per season?”. Garnacho has 3 goals in 21 games.

We’re literally in a one horse race to spend £60m on a player who doesn’t tick a single box for us! You cannot make this up. This is the worst deal in the history of the club.
Wow, is the club for real?
30% dribble success rate as a winger ffs
Very rare that you'll get a transfer where the fans of the selling club don't want him to go and the fans of the buying club don't want him.

If I'm looking for a positive (other than annoying Man Utd fans) is that there's certainly talent there, and United are a club where you could put almost any player in their team and they'd look average to sh*t so who knows, put him in our team and he might look a lot better.
 
Sell the best attacking prospect we've had come through in years, sell.tickets to Rangers fans and have people tell you online that it's ok because we are trying to buy a left back from Lecce noone has ever heard of. This club.

Yeah. And all this PSR stuff is bull crap. We are selectively "broke". We spent another £180m on players including £60m on Yoro, who was on a free next summer but just to pip Madrid to a long term prospect. And then magically found money to sack EtH and buy out Amorim. It seems like we're selling him because of Amorim's formation to fund some wing backs, while Amorim could easily be gone this time next year and we'll be back to playing wingers.
 
The club are skint and undergoing a massive reset. That’s going to mean cash in in on player that aren’t the right fit for the system. It’s a shame but necessary if we’re ever going to get back on the front foot
 
Yeah. And all this PSR stuff is bull crap. We are selectively "broke". We spent another £180m on players including £60m on Yoro, who was on a free next summer but just to pip Madrid to a long term prospect. And then magically found money to sack EtH and buy out Amorim. It seems like we're selling him because of Amorim's formation to fund some wing backs, while Amorim could easily be gone this time next year and we'll be back to playing wingers.
We are broke after years of mismanagement and wasting money. It's a shame, but right now the clubs needs to be saved financially by these kinds of transfers.
 
Don’t believe that he’s going. The club surely can’t be allowing him to play if he’s in the midst of a transfer? Like in the case of Rashford. If Garnacho starts again at Fulham on Sunday, i reckon he’s definitely staying
 
Whilst we’ve got fans crying over his potential sale :lol:
I think he’s already a good player and has the potential to develop even more. This isn’t Angel Gomes and the left back who moved to Benfica which most of the Caf isn’t really concerned when the club sold them
 
Well yeah they have much better wingers and a better squad so no surprise they find buying him for 70 million underwhelming.

Their other LW options are Sancho and Mudryk, both of which the Caf decided were shit. If he’s as good as the Caf thinks, surely he’ll go straight into their starting lineup? Hell if he’s an £80m player then he should be one of Chelsea’s best players.
 
Well yeah they have much better wingers and a better squad so no surprise they find buying him for 70 million underwhelming.

Well, exactly. If we had Chelsea's options in attack, we'd be less concerned about letting him go.

With Antony, Sancho, Rashford and Garnacho either gone or going, we're left with only Hojlund, Zirkzee, Bruno and Amad for the front three positions, and the latter is also needed at RWB. It's paper thin.
 
Their other LW options are Sancho and Mudryk, both of which the Caf decided were shit. If he’s as good as the Caf thinks, surely he’ll go straight into their starting lineup? Hell if he’s an £80m player then he should be one of Chelsea’s best players.
Just like Mudryk?
 
The club are skint and undergoing a massive reset. That’s going to mean cash in in on player that aren’t the right fit for the system. It’s a shame but necessary if we’re ever going to get back on the front foot
Selling him now would be a massive mistake unless at least two players are coming in, and even then, would you trust a new player to have any kind of impact during this transition?
 
Doesnt fit R.As system, just cash in while we can

He did good last night and the kid is still only 20 years old. Obviously we keep going if we sell, but don’t make this on his lack of talent. He can become a great player for us. In the end, selling him will be done because of Glazers greed and how bad they have let our beautiful club become.
 
Don’t believe that he’s going. The club surely can’t be allowing him to play if he’s in the midst of a transfer? Like in the case of Rashford. If Garnacho starts again at Fulham on Sunday, i reckon he’s definitely staying
Nothing logic really seeing as Antony still made the bench last night and he's as good as gone.
 
I must admit I’m open to selling him, but if it means selling him to Chelsea I’d rather wait till the summer and see what the options are then. This season is already a write off, there will be more clubs interested and hopefully we’ll have other assets to sell to aid PSR.
 
Don’t believe that he’s going. The club surely can’t be allowing him to play if he’s in the midst of a transfer? Like in the case of Rashford. If Garnacho starts again at Fulham on Sunday, i reckon he’s definitely staying

We don't have enough attackers to follow the usual policy of not risking players who are about to leave.

Does make you wonder what on earth we're going to do when they actually do leave, though. We were already light up front and Rashford has been frozen out. If Antony and Garnacho both leave this window, we really need at least two attacking players brought in. So far, we only seem to be linked to a leftback, who while talented, is too raw technically to be ready for for regular first team football at this level.
 
This is the pits. Glazer chickens coming home to roost.

Starting to look we've been sold a dolly with Ineos.

The Glazers essentially sold a stake of the club at an insanely inflated price for Sir Jim'll Fix It to come in and gut the place - effectively making the sort of decisions that the Glazers knew full-well they'd be hung up to dry if they made. Fans would have stormed the ground if some of the decisions Ineos have made were done by our American overlords.

Ratcliffe is a glorified consultant at this point, and I have next to no expectation that these decisions will make us more competitive/improve us as a football team. Look at the other Ineos run sporting projects - all incredibly underwhelming. And this is a project in a highly congested and competitive league. Sigh.
 
We are broke after years of mismanagement and wasting money. It's a shame, but right now the clubs needs to be saved financially by these kinds of transfers.

It's not saving us. Who is going to play #10 if Bruno or Amad is injured? Is Dorgu actually any good? Do we need to actually play this formation?
 
Their other LW options are Sancho and Mudryk, both of which the Caf decided were shit. If he’s as good as the Caf thinks, surely he’ll go straight into their starting lineup? Hell if he’s an £80m player then he should be one of Chelsea’s best players.

They also play Neto and Felix there. They really have no space in their attack for a developing player like garnacho. For us, he's one of our best attackers, which is a reflection on how shite many of the others are.
 
The issue with Garnacho is typical of most of our attacking players in recent years, he has moments but fails to deliver consistently. He is getting plaudits for his performance last night, but put it in context he was playing a poor Rangers side ravaged by injuries. Even at that he was selfish in his play, had great opportunities and still failed to produce any significant attacking output. United have to build a functioning team and unfortunately sales like this are a necessary evil.
 
Starting to look we've been sold a dolly with Ineos.

The Glazers essentially sold a stake of the club at an insanely inflated price for Sir Jim'll Fix It to come in and gut the place - effectively making the sort of decisions that the Glazers knew full-well they'd be hung up to dry if they made. Fans would have stormed the ground if some of the decisions Ineos have made were done by our American overlords.

Ratcliffe is a glorified consultant at this point, and I have next to no expectation that these decisions will make us more competitive/improve us as a football team. Look at the other Ineos run sporting projects - all incredibly underwhelming. And this is a project in a highly congested and competitive league. Sigh.
I’m not sure I agree with this. We at least have some sort of transfer strategy with Ineos, where we’ve been buying young players ahead of their rise so we don’t end up forking out when they’re great. It’s something we’ve been screaming for the club to do for years.

Not long ago our transfer strategy was to buy shirt sellers. That’s it.

Yes we’ve made some shite signings under Ten Hag, but it does feel like that’s all changing. We’re not just going for anyone now. We’re the worst we’ve ever been at the moment but oddly I still feel there’s a bit more of a plan under INEOS than there ever has been since Ferige retired.
 
Don’t believe that he’s going. The club surely can’t be allowing him to play if he’s in the midst of a transfer? Like in the case of Rashford. If Garnacho starts again at Fulham on Sunday, i reckon he’s definitely staying
Unfortunately we barley have 13 starting players and we have most cover in defence in forward positions we literally have no options, probably why Chido-Obi has been promoted to the U21s and is being assessed for the 1st team, unfortunate timing for Biancheri that he needed an operation and is out for a month otherwise suspect he would also have been bumped up.

If Garnacho is sold, and it seems increasingly likely that it is given Amorim's statements last night we will need to take advantage of amortisation using the funds to buy hopefully 3 players, we have probably kept our powder dry on this but there has been definite heat around Mbeumo, Chuna, Gittins, Dorgeles.... we have been having nibbles if nothing more

I strongly suspect that the Dorgu transfer is in no way linked to Garnacho staying or going.
 
I wonder how Sancho feels about this? They're already trying to replace him

Do they definitely have to buy him? I bloody hope so
 
The issue with Garnacho is typical of most of our attacking players in recent years, he has moments but fails to deliver consistently. He is getting plaudits for his performance last night, but put it in context he was playing a poor Rangers side ravaged by injuries. Even at that he was selfish in his play, had great opportunities and still failed to produce any significant attacking output. United have to build a functioning team and unfortunately sales like this are a necessary evil.

Do you really have faith that United's recruitment team will make good use of the £60m from Garnacho's sale? I'd sooner roll the dice with Garnacho's potential than hand £60m over to the people who brought us gems like Antony and Casemiro for fees much bigger than that.
 
This is the pits. Glazer chickens coming home to roost.
A few more years in the wilderness with such horrible hit rates and we could be renaming it to the Apple Music Old Trafford and hiring it out for Weddings