We actually did things in the transfer market that are unique and probably won't be repeated. Someone should make a movie: "How to destroy a football club in ten transfer windows"
Alejandro Garnacho (out) | Chelsea make enquiries
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Sell the best attacking prospect we've had come through in years, sell.tickets to Rangers fans and have people tell you online that it's ok because we are trying to buy a left back from Lecce noone has ever heard of. This club.
Meanwhile at the Shed End (Chelsea fan forum)…
Yeah. And all this PSR stuff is bull crap. We are selectively "broke". We spent another £180m on players including £60m on Yoro, who was on a free next summer but just to pip Madrid to a long term prospect. And then magically found money to sack EtH and buy out Amorim. It seems like we're selling him because of Amorim's formation to fund some wing backs, while Amorim could easily be gone this time next year and we'll be back to playing wingers.
The club are skint and undergoing a massive reset. That’s going to mean cash in in on player that aren’t the right fit for the system. It’s a shame but necessary if we’re ever going to get back on the front foot
I'm surprised they aren't excited at the prospect of signing one of the greatest golden boys in recent times
He can be a great talent and they don't need him at the same time
Those Chelsea fans know their stuff you have to say. Spot on, all of those quotes.
We are broke after years of mismanagement and wasting money. It's a shame, but right now the clubs needs to be saved financially by these kinds of transfers.
Don’t believe that he’s going. The club surely can’t be allowing him to play if he’s in the midst of a transfer? Like in the case of Rashford. If Garnacho starts again at Fulham on Sunday, i reckon he’s definitely staying
Whilst we’ve got fans crying over his potential sale
Well yeah they have much better wingers and a better squad so no surprise they find buying him for 70 million underwhelming.
I think he’s already a good player and has the potential to develop even more. This isn’t Angel Gomes and the left back who moved to Benfica which most of the Caf isn’t really concerned when the club sold themWhilst we’ve got fans crying over his potential sale
Their other LW options are Sancho and Mudryk, both of which the Caf decided were shit. If he’s as good as the Caf thinks, surely he’ll go straight into their starting lineup? Hell if he’s an £80m player then he should be one of Chelsea’s best players.
Well, exactly. If we had Chelsea's options in attack, we'd be less concerned about letting him go.
With Antony, Sancho, Rashford and Garnacho either gone or going, we're left with only Hojlund, Zirkzee, Bruno and Amad for the front three positions, and the latter is also needed at RWB. It's paper thin.
Just like Mudryk?
I think some of them have a more realistic view of Garnacho than a lot of us have.
Selling him now would be a massive mistake unless at least two players are coming in, and even then, would you trust a new player to have any kind of impact during this transition?
This is the pits. Glazer chickens coming home to roost.
He did good last night and the kid is still only 20 years old. Obviously we keep going if we sell, but don’t make this on his lack of talent. He can become a great player for us. In the end, selling him will be done because of Glazers greed and how bad they have let our beautiful club become.
Nothing logic really seeing as Antony still made the bench last night and he's as good as gone.
I must admit I’m open to selling him, but if it means selling him to Chelsea I’d rather wait till the summer and see what the options are then. This season is already a write off, there will be more clubs interested and hopefully we’ll have other assets to sell to aid PSR.
Well yeah he did made the bench but Garnacho actually started and played the whole game
We don't have enough attackers to follow the usual policy of not risking players who are about to leave.
Does make you wonder what on earth we're going to do when they actually do leave, though. We were already light up front and Rashford has been frozen out. If Antony and Garnacho both leave this window, we really need at least two attacking players brought in. So far, we only seem to be linked to a leftback, who while talented, is too raw technically to be ready for for regular first team football at this level.
Starting to look we've been sold a dolly with Ineos.
The Glazers essentially sold a stake of the club at an insanely inflated price for Sir Jim'll Fix It to come in and gut the place - effectively making the sort of decisions that the Glazers knew full-well they'd be hung up to dry if they made. Fans would have stormed the ground if some of the decisions Ineos have made were done by our American overlords.
Ratcliffe is a glorified consultant at this point, and I have next to no expectation that these decisions will make us more competitive/improve us as a football team. Look at the other Ineos run sporting projects - all incredibly underwhelming. And this is a project in a highly congested and competitive league. Sigh.
It's not saving us. Who is going to play #10 if Bruno or Amad is injured? Is Dorgu actually any good? Do we need to actually play this formation?
They also play Neto and Felix there. They really have no space in their attack for a developing player like garnacho. For us, he's one of our best attackers, which is a reflection on how shite many of the others are.
I mean they have a point. £55m is fine with me, as a United fan! If we sell Mainoo though I’ll be fuming
The issue with Garnacho is typical of most of our attacking players in recent years, he has moments but fails to deliver consistently. He is getting plaudits for his performance last night, but put it in context he was playing a poor Rangers side ravaged by injuries. Even at that he was selfish in his play, had great opportunities and still failed to produce any significant attacking output. United have to build a functioning team and unfortunately sales like this are a necessary evil.
I’m not sure I agree with this. We at least have some sort of transfer strategy with Ineos, where we’ve been buying young players ahead of their rise so we don’t end up forking out when they’re great. It’s something we’ve been screaming for the club to do for years.
Not long ago our transfer strategy was to buy shirt sellers. That’s it.
Yes we’ve made some shite signings under Ten Hag, but it does feel like that’s all changing. We’re not just going for anyone now. We’re the worst we’ve ever been at the moment but oddly I still feel there’s a bit more of a plan under INEOS than there ever has been since Ferige retired.
Unfortunately we barley have 13 starting players and we have most cover in defence in forward positions we literally have no options, probably why Chido-Obi has been promoted to the U21s and is being assessed for the 1st team, unfortunate timing for Biancheri that he needed an operation and is out for a month otherwise suspect he would also have been bumped up.
If Garnacho is sold, and it seems increasingly likely that it is given Amorim's statements last night we will need to take advantage of amortisation using the funds to buy hopefully 3 players, we have probably kept our powder dry on this but there has been definite heat around Mbeumo, Chuna, Gittins, Dorgeles.... we have been having nibbles if nothing more
I strongly suspect that the Dorgu transfer is in no way linked to Garnacho staying or going.
I wonder how Sancho feels about this? They're already trying to replace him
Do they definitely have to buy him? I bloody hope so
Do they definitely have to buy him? I bloody hope so
Do you really have faith that United's recruitment team will make good use of the £60m from Garnacho's sale? I'd sooner roll the dice with Garnacho's potential than hand £60m over to the people who brought us gems like Antony and Casemiro for fees much bigger than that.
A few more years in the wilderness with such horrible hit rates and we could be renaming it to the Apple Music Old Trafford and hiring it out for Weddings
Absolutely the same. People point to Liverpool selling Sterling, under different circumstances, but willfully forget they replaced him with Benteke and finished 8th. The argument of money to spend is only valid if you believe in the people spending it
Whilst not perfect I think our summer signings indicate an improvement in recruitment and negotiations. I think Mazraoui, De Ligt and Ugarte have been solid signings, not so convinced about Zirkzee.
I hear that, and genuinely as of a few days ago would have argued this exact case.
I think seeing swathes of Rangers fans in the home sections of the stadium last night, the reports coming out about non-playing members of staff, and the manner in which decisions have been reversed (Ashworth, ETH, Zirkzee potentially going, etc) just fills me with a fair amount of dread.
I don't doubt that on some level there are good intentions, but I just don't think Ineos have the track record to suggest they'll achieve what we want them to, and that given the sheer scale of the problem/costs invloved, we've gotten ourselves into a position where we require creative financing ala Chelsea or owners with deep pockets to fix. We're sort of without either currently.
Not to mention it would basically mean they give us back the money we gave them for Mount. I know it's not literally that way but that's some damning context of the shiteshow we are.
The very same people that caused the Ashworth situation, decided to keep ETH only to sack him a few months later and brought in the most dogmatic manager on the planet fully aware that his system is the polar opposite of what we have in place? And that's ignoring 60M on a CB project and Zirkzee.
Ahhh, it all makes sense now
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