Or it appears that half a season of selective stats is nonsense and flukey to look at rather than the full picture, which continues to have him 4th for his age group or below? It underlying metrics?
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It's the same with Salah and co. For every Salah you have your Tammy Abraham's, Neco Williams (Liverpool), Harry Wilson etc.
I think Garnacho will turn out to be very good player and maybe he will become a star but the odds are he will have a respectable career. We can't hang onto the idea that we are losing an absolute gem with every youth team player. It's not to say they should have been sold but you can look at Januzaj, Welbeck and Andreas who we could have made a lot more money on them had we cashed in earlier. You'll win some and lose some but given our financial situation we can't be banking on our youth players to save us.
Watch us sell Garnacho replace him with a half baked wing back and then Amad starts missing games.
INEOS have no clue what they are doing. We wont even pass 45 points this season.
INEOS have no clue what they are doing. We wont even pass 45 points this season.
Shame he didn't get a chance at LWB at least once.
Is this actually happening? Ffs. And to Chelsea? Selling him abroad.
He's a part of the shitty team
Casemiro 18.2M per year
Bruno 15.6M
Rashford 15.6M
Mount 13M
Antony 10.4M
De Ligt 10.14M
Maguire 9.9M
Eriksen 7.8M
Shaw 7.8M
Maz 7M
Lindelof, Licha, Onana, Ugarte 6.24M
Napoli can't pay enough it seems.
Shocking. I still think selling off the clubs best china is not the way forward. We should selling the fringe players better like city and Liverpool do so well. Even Chelsea get good money for their players.
I'm not privy to the deal (obviously) but it's fairly easy to make a well-educated guess as we know what most of the figures are.
Betis are reportedly covering 1.6 million euros of Antony's wages.
Maguire had a remaining book value of £26.67 million unamortised. United triggered the option in his contract to spread that over 3 years instead of two, meaning that instead of 2 years at £13.33 Million it becomes three years of £8.67 million. Which frees up ~£4 million.
Dorgu we are looking to pay up to ~£30 million which spread over 5 seasons is around £6 million per season.
Hence Antony + Maguire free up just enough room in PSR calculations for Dorgu.
I maybe wrong here but I just don't believe Selling Garnacho is just down to PSR , I think this New Structure along with new coaching staff simply doesn't rate his talent that highly .
And same could very well be true for Mainoo as well who could be up for sale in Summer .
And same could very well be true for Mainoo as well who could be up for sale in Summer .
I hope he’s not gone, don’t think we should be selling him in all honesty
Yes, likely a combination of both.
We have no fringe players of any significant value because of the high wages we've handed out. We're paying the price for a decade of sabotage by Woodward & co
Nobody wants to buy Rashford, Casemiro, or Antony, we can't sell players like Hojlund or Zirkzee, as it would be a loss on the books, Eriksen and Lindelof will be off for free in the summer, Shaw and Mount are injured, De Ligt, Maz, and Ugate have just joined, Bruno and Amad won't be sold, which basically leaves Martinez and Dalot, who I suppose could be sold, but both start virtually every game, and will probably raise less than half that Garnacho would at best.
The only other outfield player I can think of is Mainoo, but for me I'd rather see Garnacho go before he does.
It's not a nice thing to have to do, but the Glazers walked us to the edge of a cliff, and this is the upshot.
Selling a 20 year old talent like him would almost be like a criminal offence.
Maguire was out of contract in Summer we only took option for another year . He is not here for another 3 years God I hope not .
It's funny you say that, when over the past 10 years we would have been in a far better situation if we relied exclusively on our youth players rather than buy flop after flop. Because our shining lights year after year, apart from Bruno Fernandes, have been players who have come from the academy.
I don't see why we have to sell now and not in the summer. We have no fecking players
You are misunderstanding. I'm aware that his contract was up in the summer.
Depends if it works out or not, Villa selling Grealish Vs now for example.
We direly need 2 top wingbacks as a start point. If selling Garnacho somehow enables that we will be in a better place.
It's just we don't have many sellable assets.
The sooner Shaw, Casemiro, Lindelof and Mount can be flogged off for our wage budget the better.
If we relied "exclusively" on our youth players we'd be relegated
Eh the Glazers did shit but then Ineos came in, saw we were in a shit state and then proceeded to spend 70m on a teenage CB who isn't ready to start, extended a failing manager only to then sack him for more money after a few months, waited a year and paid big money for a sporting director, only to then sack him after a few months, spent big money on Zirkzee who has proved entirely suited to the league and the new manager (and the previous manager))... What else we got...
They're as much at fault as anyone if they sell Garnacho, especially as they don't actually have to do it, as I doubt we do much with the money in the last week of the window.
Axel Tuanzebe, Brandon Williams at the back? No thanks
5 months are not enough to indicate that. The entire team is struggling due to poor management.
Letting one of our best prospects go on that basis is the kind of thinking you'd expect from the same people that got us into this mess.
Eh or Evans and Smalling as the main CBs for most of the past decade. Doubt it'd do worse than the crazy amounts we spent.
And obviously not exclusively. My point is that year after year, our academy graduates are the players bailing us out or being the shining lights.
The people who got us into this mess would hand him a £300k a week contract rather than sell him
Doesn't always work out that way though, look at Liverpool who sold Coutinho at one point.
They had a shit squad, Klopp just through the door and the rebuild the new ownership did transformed them.
It depends who we are targeting in the next window.
Id rather 4 brilliant system players to Garnacho based on PSR alone.
It's sad for sure, but it might be the only way.
I am not misunderstanding you got your years mixed up , his remaining transfer value just got amortized for another year so basically 18 months not 3 years as you mentioned .
We're evidently scrambling to balance the books for PSR before the end of June and our hand will be very much weakened with prospective buyers if we're seen to be a desperate seller in early June. Selling now probably maximises what we'll get for him. Flogging talented 20 year olds to enable the club to comply with financial regulations is a damn shame, though. Incredible that one of the wealthiest clubs in the world has been brought to this - the consequence of a decade of failure and mismanagement on and off the pitch.
Shame he didnt pick up a little 2 week injury ...
I don't think we're likely to receive a good enough offer to justify selling Garnacho in this window. Chelsea sold us Mount for £60m with a year left on his contract after an injury ravaged season, we shouldn't be giving them any concessions if they come with a bid for Garnacho.
It does feel like there's a decent chance he'll go with all the noise about PSR but it will be frustrating if we sell him and half of the proceeds go on a wing back who is still a bit rough around the edges.
It does feel like there's a decent chance he'll go with all the noise about PSR but it will be frustrating if we sell him and half of the proceeds go on a wing back who is still a bit rough around the edges.
Aye it's a shame. It'd be far better to sell no one so we can't improve the team. I'm sure Gernacho would be happy to stay and help us finish midtable next season
Sorry yes, you are correct. My apologies!
Before the extension, there was one financial years worth of unamortised transfer fee remaining (£13.33 million) which has now become 2x years of ~£6.675 million freeing up ~£6.6 million in the PSR calculations.
Again though, along with Antony it is enough to cover the transfer of Dorgu regardless of Garnacho.
Laurie intimated as much in his article yesterday too saying it would be one in and one out, meaning Antony out and Dorgu in.
The only thing that would make me think that selling him is a bad idea, is if (as I expect) that money will go to finance debts rather than new players.
Chris Smalling is not a United Academy product, we bought him from fulham for about £10 million
Why would that be the case?
Looking at his PL performance, using Footystats. Stats per 90.
- 24/25: goals: 0.24, xG: 0.38
- 23/24: goals: 0.24, xG: 0.33
- 22/23: goals: 0.48, xG: 0.42
Looks pretty consistent to me, except that first season of 500 minutes.
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