Cole Palmer barely played for City. We have seen A LOT of Garnacho.
He could still go on to be great, but I think considering he doesn’t fit our system and we need the cash, then we should sell at an offer we can’t refuse
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Cole Palmer barely played for City. We have seen A LOT of Garnacho.
He could still go on to be great, but I think considering he doesn’t fit our system and we need the cash, then we should sell at an offer we can’t refuse
He really should stay. I know psr and all that but come on... there is 'potentially ' a very very good player in there.
Wholeheartedly agree - it’s scandalous that we are entertaining selling him for the peanuts being offered.
Even more reason to cry about itEmotional? He's been at the club like 4 years
No I don't.
Be stupid to sell him. Him, Mainoo, Yoro, Licha, de ligt?? and Bruno are only players I can see playing at the TOP level. Amad is also a possibility if this isn't just a purple patch. Ugarte hmm
He's 20, on 8 goals for the season in January, and has been having a bit of an all timer of a season in terms of missing sitters.
If you can't see him easily clicking into a player who scores 20+ a season then I don't know what to say. You must have been wanting Ronaldo sold 20 years ago when he was inconsistent as a teenager.
The lack of patience and understanding that young players will be inconsistent is wild. It's like it's people's first time watching football.
Hopefully that puts his price up
He does not currently fit the system but he has the potential and Amorim has said as much and implied that he is working hard to adapt which is why he is not getting the Rashford treatment. I can see selling him for an unbelievable offer but the prices quoted so far are not good enough.
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I don't fully understand the "he doesn't fit Amorim's system" thing. I'd suggest a decent coach can get him playing in any system. It's not like he isn't willing.
Don't sell him. Fecking No. Don't dismantle this squad for a to-be-fired manager by July.
Nice to hear the crowd singing his name tonight. Looked lively. He does give us a direct option, which you need in games.
Ah yes, the last thing we want to do is dismantle this group of players.
The only way that Garnacho fits into this system is if he offers more in defense or pressure. Amad offers alot defensively and offensively. That's difference between the two. Also it seems Garnacho needs 5 yards of space for him to do something. He doesn't seem to have a lot of pace about him.
Jesus wept
Totally agree with this. He's still 20 has plenty of time to adapt to anything.
I think it's high time the players are held responsible, rather than the manager. Rashford has clearly downed tools, and Gernacho is just not good enough.
He needs to stay.
People keep mentioning his G/A contributions as a positive but if you dig deeper it's just not at all impressive. Arguably below average for the amount of game time he gets and how good everyone thinks he is.
He has 4 G+A (four) in 18 Premier League appearances this season.
6 of his G+A came against Barnsley and Leicester in the Carabao.
EUR 70m is probably a fair price for him. The BIG problem is can we trust our management to sign 2 good players with that money? Evidence would suggest no. I would rather we sell either ZZ or Hojlund or both tbh.
Ah and the best way to avoid becoming another Chelsea is by sacking another manager and sign up for a 3rd in under 10 months...
He stands out because we have so many bad players.
Showed his usual work rate and energy. End product could of course be better but he’s still one of very few players we have who scare the opposition.
Imagine him not starting or being on the bench, game after game. We’d be a lot less threatening than we are now.
Imagine him not starting or being on the bench, game after game. We’d be a lot less threatening than we are now.
So you want to sell one of the few not bad ones for the price of ~1.5 Zirkzees?
If this is his last game for United then it's kind of a nice message to show what an idiotic decision it would be to sell a 20yr kid who came through our system.
It’s obvious to anyone that Malacia isn’t good enough but having a left footed wing back behind Garnacho allowed him to come inside and outside behind the striker, I thought Garnacho was a danger tonight and having pace and work rate means that good coaching can mould him into the kind of player Amorim wants behind the striker.
One thing that a striker in Amorim’s system needs is pace behind to run out wide or in behind which is why I think long term Diallo and Garnacho behind a striker and Fernandes in midfield is a good axis that offers creativity, pace and work rate so quality wing backs and a quality out and out centre forward is what’s needed.
One thing that a striker in Amorim’s system needs is pace behind to run out wide or in behind which is why I think long term Diallo and Garnacho behind a striker and Fernandes in midfield is a good axis that offers creativity, pace and work rate so quality wing backs and a quality out and out centre forward is what’s needed.
I've also pointed at loads of his underlying metrics per 90 compared to the top leagues, where he's at ~90th percentile or higher for shot totals, receiving progressive passes, progressive carries, carries into the box, touches in the box and so on. As a 19/20 year old, that's excellent and points to an elite prospect. Can't wait to hear what you come up with to discard underlying metrics though since you're laughably throwing away him being among the most productive under 21 players around.
I guess some people will just find ways to hate on someone even if it's beyond logic or reason. Just fecking strange to hate on a 20 year old academy graduate who carried our attack last season.
Problem is right now the best we'd get for any of the 2 mentioned is a loan and a packet of monster munch.
Garnacho is the only player we can sell for decent money. In an ideal world would we want to sell him ? probably not. But in an ideal world he wouldn't be starting for us either. Garnacho is not a world class talent. Right now we need the money more than we need Garnacho.
Totally agree, he’ll develop and turn into a regular 15-20 goal a season player if not more, he should be on about 13-15 now.
The sad part is that the reason we are entertaining it even is because of shite signings like Hojlund, zirkzee and Antony putting us in a shit financial situation.
I think it's hilarious that people keep saying that he doesn't fit the system while he has started 2 out of the last 3 games. What even is the system really, we will probably have a new system in 3 months time. Quality should any day matter more than the system
Can't wait for our options at 10 being Bruno, Amad and Rashford for the rest of the season
If Amorim is happy to let him leave then he's probably seen enough to suggest that he's not quite right for his system at this moment in time.
On your own lad.
Do you trust the club to spend that money wisely, plus who can you even get these days for £60m in January? A couple of wing backs that may or may not be total thrash.
For Chavs, it's £60m + add ons. So Utd should be looking for easy attainable add ons like
appearances and minutes. We took Mount of them on 1yr contract for £50m so if they don't agree, no deal.
appearances and minutes. We took Mount of them on 1yr contract for £50m so if they don't agree, no deal.
Do you reckon he would've started him the last games if that was the case?
How can you accuse me of arguing beyond logic or reason when I've quite clearly explained why his end product is relatively poor?
His end product is basically nonexistent.
We aren't exactly blessed with copious amounts of options.