If it was the obvious call I’m sure, but he is a young talent wanting to play
He isn’t the first or last to be upset about being taken off
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 42
- Goals
- 8
- Assists
- 6
- Yellow cards
- 1
He isn’t the first or last to be upset about being taken off
Feel free to look up his passing stats, finishing stats, various reports about his attitude and conduct for evidence about how quite a lot of it is actually correct. Or just watch him play.
What a load of bollocks. When Ronaldo was 125 games in for Utd he had easily proved his worth with the fans. Garnacho hasn’t. That’s the difference.
This guy is massively overrated. If we somehow manage to get £60m for him in the summer I’d be quite happy to use the money on players more suited to this managers style if we are sticking with him.
Ronaldo was a youth player at sporting. Garnacho was a youth player here so that comment is either deliberately egregious or just plain silly.
You’re not making any sense. I’m not talking about youth appearances.
Garnacho has made 125 senior appearances for the Man Utd first team. By the time Ronaldo had made 125 senior appearances for the Man Utd first team, no one was questioning his ability. It was abundantly clear by that point that he was a far more special player than Garnacho is. That’s the difference.
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This is what annoys me most about him. Ronaldo at the start of his United career was a diff story. You could almost forgive that player had he acted this way because he was banging in the goals and a huge threat to the opposition. At the end of the day it should always be about the team.
If we could get a decent for for him in the summer, I'd honestly let him go.
I just remembered this guy scored a curler and refused to celebrate in front of the whole Stretford End because earlier that week some TikToker asked him to “pass the ball better” while he was signing autographs.
So did he come back out for the second half?
So this is what I am hearing here. Since we are only going to get peanuts by selling Hojilund, Zirkzee, Mount etc. who have been total failures so far (all also older than Garnacho), lets sell Garnacho because we will get 60M for him. Great way to improve this club!
And given our history in the transfer market, I are sure that even if we get 60M for him we would spunk it on a worse player that noone would have heard of before.
People here are agreeing that Amorim was angry with him for not passing to Hojilund/Zirkzee that's why he was subbed. It would be great if were using the same standard and subbing Hojilund/Zirkzee after the 100th time they didn't do anything when someone did pass to them.
And given our history in the transfer market, I are sure that even if we get 60M for him we would spunk it on a worse player that noone would have heard of before.
People here are agreeing that Amorim was angry with him for not passing to Hojilund/Zirkzee that's why he was subbed. It would be great if were using the same standard and subbing Hojilund/Zirkzee after the 100th time they didn't do anything when someone did pass to them.
It was cold and raining, he went and got dry and warm. It's a zero story.
Hes still one of our best attackers and he surely would have looked better in an Alex Ferguson team than what we have been doing. Ronaldo wouldnt have put up with being in this team.
Why should he applaud when he comes off in the 43rd minute? I agree if it were the 78th....
Fans read too much into this and microanalyze everything. Most likely, he was pissed not at the sub only but that the club was in another difficult situation, struggling against Ipswich
What a wreck of a post..
Ronaldo had already played a season of senior football at sporting.
I am not sure anyone thinks garnacho is going to be as good as Ronaldo was, but it's silly to compare their first 100 odd games for the club because one already had senior appearances elsewhere.
Also worth pointing out Ronaldo was playing in a much better team with a lot less pressure on him. Garnacho is playing (and part of) the worst attack we've had in over 40 years.
His attitude seems to be fine, Bruno has stated previously that he is now one of the hardest working players at the club after having some issues, also when dropped at City he has since worked his way back into the fold through hard work, not exactly tantamount to someone with attitude issues.
But I get that people love to make things up to fit their own thoughts.
His finishing could use work, but he's still one of the highest scorers for United this season in all comps, again none too shabby really.
He also sits very high in the assist rate too, so again not too bad for someone who apparently can't pass.
He also rates top at United for shots on target.
So yeah, not much was correct really, intact nothing was correct in your post!
It's Chelsea! They also signed Sancho off us! Napoli signed Scott McTominay off us and currently have Lukaku leading the line. The Italian league is incredibly weak!
Ask yourself this, If Garnacho is THAT good, how come the likes of Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Liverpool or Arsenal aren't interested. I can save you some time and explain it's because he isn't good enough for any of them.
Liverpool and Arsenal are our rivals. Bayern Munich have Musiala, Madrid have Vini jnr and Mbappe. Barcelona have Raphina.
Because none of those sides need Garnacho right now,
The Italian league is far from weak, a quick cursory glance at the European competition tables will show you their level of competitiveness
And a Chelsea team fighting for top four with a wealth of options going forward felt that Garnacho was good enough, they are a much stronger outfit than United currently....
Ask yourself why that is....
Liverpool and Arsenal are our rivals. Bayern Munich have Musiala, Madrid have Vini jnr and Mbappe. Barcelona have Raphina.
That's my point!
I honestly think some people have forgotten what a good player actually looks like. He's not even one of the best wingers in this league. Garnacho wouldn't start for the likes of Bournemouth and Brighton!
@Champ
The Italian league is the weakest it's ever been in my lifetime!
Only one Italian team has made it to the Champions League last sixteen. Feyenoord, PSV and Club Brugge have just eliminated AC Milan, Juventus and Atalanta.
The Italian League is where players that aren't good enough for the Premier League go. Lukaku, Mctominay, Pulisic, João Félix, Lookman, The 2025 version of Kyle Walker, the list is endless of players going there after flopping in England.
Using Chelsea as an example doesn't help your argument. They are an absolute basket case of a club that will sign almost anyone!
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Because they buy a feckload of players every year and hit on some of them. Chelsea also spent 50m on Felix (who they've already binned off) and 80m on Mudryk.
So he went to the dressing room to change is gear and red cafe goes crazy...
Amazing. The same posters go on about the media and the ABU agenda but will be quick to fall for any ABU story that attacks the player they want to hate. He went to get warm and dry and now has been accused of unprofessionalism. The fans are as culpable as anyone else for the "toxicity."
Yup, players they thought at the time would improve them....so better than what they had. They also brought Cole Palmer....etc etc.
Which is what they believe with Garnacho, he's better than what they have and so will improve them. A team currently better than United....
Not the whole caf, only a minority of people who love to hate certain players for whatever reason....
Once again, this is not made up. He was dropped from the squad for dissent just a few months ago. That’s a thing that actually happened, due to his attitude.
Of players who have had 10+ big chances in the PL this season Garnacho has the lowest conversion rate - just 2/14. That is poor.
As for his passing, no. He is not a creative or incisive passer, and he gets a lot of justified criticism for going alone and trying to shoot when better passing options are available to him. It literally happens every time he plays. I honestly wonder what people are watching when they try to deny such things.
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The person who I replied to said Ronaldo would never have made it here in 2025 because we don’t have patience. That is bollocks, and nothing you have said counters that.
Garnacho has been given plenty of time - 125 matches over numerous seasons and it’s only this season that people have seriously started to question his development and his talent. Ronaldo would have made it here now because he was very obviously a better player with more unique attributes than Garnacho is at similar levels of their career.
He has one of the highest number of assists in this team, highest number of goals in this team, is one of the most potent attacking threats in this team.
You can try and paint the stats anyway you like but it doesn't hide the truth that his output is actually very good.
There was no dissent, it was training effort that Amorim stated, something which Garnacho has put right, hence his inclusion back in the team, that doesn't show any attitude issues.
Bruno was quick to highlight how his attitude had improved a few years ago, saying he was one of the most humble and hard working on the training ground.
It's fine though, it's clear you don't like him and are looking for any aspect of his game or made up issues to support your point, which is frankly bizarre to me. But you do you.
I don't buy that. It is 45th min. You can wait until half time to change your shirt if you want. It is simple and it is just rain. At least you ask your manager or staff and don't take those decisions by yourself.
He was wrong. He needs to learn from that. Thats it.
An attacking threat who can’t seem to finish chances in one of the lowest scoring teams that is stuck near the bottom of the table. That’s not quite the accolade you seem to think it is. If he was a major attacking threat in a team that is itself an attacking threat, I might give him a little more slack. But he’s not. He’s a frustratingly inconsistent and low IQ player whose very obvious deficiencies contribute to why our attack is so dysfunctional and doesn’t operate as a cohesive unit. If we really have aspirations for getting back to the top of the table, we need much more intelligent and better quality players, and Garnacho is one of the only ones who can generate funds to help make that happen.
A young player not training hard absolutely shows an attitude issue. And it’s not the first time such things have been reported about him. So you can defend him all you like - this stuff hasn’t been made up. Of course the captain is going to defend him when asked, but taking such things at face value seems more than a little naive - he’s not going to through him under the bus, is he.
And I’m not just making things up to criticize him. Every single point I’ve made is a recurring critcism amongst countless fans who watch him play every week. That’s why there are so many posts in this thread from fans pointing out these very same criticisms, whilst concluding it might be time for him to move on. And ultimately the only reason for that is we remember the standards we used to have when it came to attackers, and we want to see a better team with better, more effective players. We just disagree on how to get there.
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Good to hear there are no problems. As frustrating as he can be and whether or not he leaves in the summer, we could really do with him finding some form. There's barely any pace in this team as it is.
I’m totally with you on this, I think he’s got the potential to turn into an absolutely top player, and you’d be mad to give up on him now unless for an astronomic offer. However we are definitely in a considerable minority on this site.
I kind of wish he would go to Chelsea just so Sancho could then tweet 'Garnacho Libre'...
And a Manchester United team fighting for top four with a (relative) wealth of options in the attacking midfield area felt that Mount was good enough, they were a much stronger outfit than Chelsea at that time....
Ask yourself why that is....
He has done that multiple times now and haven't learned from it. I don't think he has the mental to make it as serious world class player, even if he has the ability to some extent, he doesn't have the mentality not patience.
The post is correct.
We get stuck with so many players who aren’t good enough, who sit on massive contracts that no other fecker would pay them, so we sell one of the few assets we have that’s worth something. He’s 20, hungry and will improve. Hes one of the players we should be keeping!
He could go to Chelsea for example and in a couple seasons have a real break through season and people will be kicking off that we sold him for 60mil.
Honestly feel like this is a bit harsh. I have no patience for a player showing dissent at being substituted because the manager thinks he's playing poorly, is tired, or just isn't his day. (I am an Arsenal fan, see Granit Xhaka). But I can understand the frustration of someone who was actually playing pretty well having to be the sacrificial lamb because someone else got sent off. I'd have let this one go.
I have a bridge to sell anyone who honestly thought the shirt thing was anything other than a halfway backtrack.