[Real Name]

He just needs to apologize.

 

[Desert Eagle]

Clearly has a shit attitude. Learnt it from Ronaldo, Rashford, Sancho and others. Shame because he could be a useful squad player at worst. Maybe Amorim gets him to improve but it's getting more likely he gets sold in the summer.

 

[Marwood]

Clearly has a shit attitude. Learnt it from Ronaldo, Rashford, Sancho and others. Shame because he could be a useful squad player at worst. Maybe Amorim gets him to improve but it's getting more likely he gets sold in the summer.

I think senior pros at the club were saying it about him from the moment he came into the squad.

I struggle to relate to him as a fan. Not my type of player/personality.

 

[Trex]

He hasn't scored a goal in ages. That's what he should be worried about. Martial, Rashford, Greenwood, Ronaldo, Sancho. Those are the forwards he's had around him in his time here. No wonder, they all have something in common.

 

[Desert Eagle]

I think senior pros at the club were saying it about him from the moment he came into the squad.

I struggle to relate to him as a fan. Not my type of player/personality.

Yeah he somehow got the crap attitude really early, the other players at that age were still more committed and likable. Whatever the root cause, doesn't seem like something Amorim can fix or will put up with.

 

[JTRI]

Showing himself to be another entitled player at the club, provides us with very little yet believes he has nothing left to prove. The Ronaldo-esque reaction to being subbed off is embarrassing, who does he think he is?

 

[Champ]

Showing himself to be another entitled player at the club, provides us with very little yet believes he has nothing left to prove. The Ronaldo-esque reaction to being subbed off is embarrassing, who does he think he is?

It was nothing, Amorim doesn't have an issue with it and nor should anyone else.
Quite how you can ascertain that he's entitled from that just shows you've already made your mind up about him.

 

[hellhunter]

It was nothing, Amorim doesn't have an issue with it and nor should anyone else.
Quite how you can ascertain that he's entitled from that just shows you've already made your mind up about him.

We should be much more concerned about players not being upset about being subbed in the first half

 

[TempusFugit]

What does he mean by the Rashford reference? I feel like I'm missing something. In any event, it's really time for Garnacho to grow up. I wouldn't lose any sleep over selling him for 60+ in the summer.

Who's going to pay £60m for him? No club in their right senses will. He's not very talented, certainly not as much as some fans say. Turning down Napoli's bid was madness from the club. He hasn't scored in almost 20 games yet he's got an ego to match Ronaldo's...... can't blame him when Old Trafford chants his name game after game. Much better/deserving players have never had this kind of treatment so he thinks he's already a superstar.

 

[southwellweb]

If we have Quenda coming in next season and can raise 60m then I’m all for selling him. Funds could be put to use to bring in someone like Joao Pedro or Cunha who would both be really good fits for that inside forward wide 10 role

 

[Woodywizz]

we don’t need another one with a bad attitude. Get rid

 

[soapythecat]

Petulant child. He’s never looked content under Amorim and his actions prove he isn’t happy. I think he was hoping for a move in January and would be surprised if he’s not moved on in the summer.
The system doesn’t suit him but the chances to assist and score this season have been numerous and lost.
I do t want to see a youngster go, but I’d be ok with him moving on. Could see him running the wing for Athletico Madrid for some reason.

 

[Remember the geese]

I wasn't at all fussed when he was substituted. I don't understand why it was such a shocking decision by Amorim. If he's moved on in the summer, we may go for Cunha.

 

[SirScholes]

Petulant child. He’s never looked content under Amorim and his actions prove he isn’t happy. I think he was hoping for a move in January and would be surprised if he’s not moved on in the summer.
The system doesn’t suit him but the chances to assist and score this season have been numerous and lost.
I do t want to see a youngster go, but I’d be ok with him moving on. Could see him running the wing for Athletico Madrid for some reason.

Could he not just be unhappy that he was taken off

 

[Chaky_Best]

Event thought we are absolutely short in terms of attacking players, we should fine him with his attitude.

If it was Rashford or another player, it would have been all over the media.

He needs to understand that he's not the star he thinks he is.

Fine him, don't play him this weekend.

 

[Giggsyking]

Get rid, sick of childish attitude.

 

[kanobbk]

I've said it before and I'll say it again..

I'm really struggling to be onboard with the refusal to sell Garnacho. I find it fascinating that a large portion of our fan base is struggling to see that their blind love for players is one of the largest factors in our demise as a club currently. It's like none of you learn from constantly getting your fingers burned with players, especially in the 'post Fergie era'. This constant blind faith/hope is what has led this club into the position we're in now, obviously mixed with horrendous owners and people like Ed Woodward handing out hundreds of thousands per week like it's peanuts.

Look at what your loyalty to players has done to this club over the past decade. The same player that received your (our, I am not in this camp personally, I see players for what they are. I do not wear red tinted glasses for the sake of it) love and admiration only 7-8 years ago, is now playing for a club in the Midlands, on £325k p/w and has been nothing short of atrocious for the past 2.5 years, basically since his purple patch in 22/23. What did your loyalty to this player achieve? Please I need to know. If we'd have sold him off the back of his purple patch at the end of 22/23, we'd have probably received offers north of £60/70m, quite easily, but we didn't. We instead made him one of the highest earners at the club, again, OFF THE BACK OF A PURPLE PATCH and he then returned true to his real form and stunk the place out. Now we're here.

There are other names that can be added to this to; Jesse, Martial, Pogba (kind of), Shaw. These players were given all of the loyalty from the fans and what did they/have they done in return? Shaw has unfortunate injuries but my god he should've been sold a while back. He is NEVER fit. Only now is a majority of the fan base onboard with selling him, but it's almost too late now.

You're allowing yourselves to get your fingers burned again if you do it with Garnacho. Garnacho is NOT the player you think he is, or who he thinks he is. The eye test proves it and so do the numbers. He's made 80 PL apps so far and his numbers are not great by any means. If we are offered £60m+ for him in the Summer, he has to go. We would be morons to turn it down. There are better players than Garnacho out there, for cheaper too. Charles De Ketelaere is one of them.

From my own perspective, I've never really been on the Garnacho bandwagon as much as some other fans have, and I just mean that from a general point of view. I've not overrated him, I've seen him for what he is, a young winger from the academy that was promoted to the squad due to depth in that position being dreadful (Rashford & Antony).

Garn is not what he himself thinks he is I'm afraid, it's as simple as that. He can wear the CR7 boxers, have the flashy hair and do the suii, it all means jack when anyone with even a slither of football knowledge can see that he has the football IQ of a Pub League player, and that isn't an exaggeration either. As someone that has watched every game so far this year, and for years prior, he really hasn't been overwhelmingly amazing at all. His decision making has improved since Ruben arrived and he was dropped etc, but prior to that he honestly struggled to get the basics right, it was quite spectacular to watch actually.

A few months ago he was approached outside OT by a fan who criticised him for not passing the ball more often and questioned his decisions etc. Of course this is not what a fan should be doing to a player before a match, but he was voicing the opinions of the fans that watch football with their eyes and not with their red tinted glasses.

At one point this season, a specific page on social media reported on him with the following headline..

None of the players above (I'll list below) have more goals + assists this season than Alejandro Garnacho - 11/11/2024

Players listed:

• Saka
• Dembele
• Kvara
• Mbappe
• Leao
• Nico Williams
• Olise
• Foden

The headline was of course clever with their wording, because Saka had the exact same stats as him, and 4 of the others had FAR less minutes than him with their stats not being that far away from Garn's at all.

At this stage of the season, Garna had the most shots attempted, dribbles attempted, worst passing distance and worst passes attempted out of that entire list. So he had taken the most shots with a poor conversion rate, had passed the least with the least passes attempted and had an absolutely shocking dribbles attempted to complete ratio, but that wasn't reported by said page, only his G+A. Poor reporting, poor analysis and it quite frankly gets the moronic fans on his side with no context.

Regarding his dribbles completed, at this point in the season he had attempted 30 dribble take ons in all comps and was successful a grand whopping of SIX (6) times. 70% of those occasions he failed miserably. That was the worst ratio by a country mile out of all of those players listed. Again, if you are a proper fan of the club though, you don't need the stats and/or data to tell you this, the eye test was enough, because he was doing it week in week out with little to no success. For all of us United fans, think of the Chelsea game in November, this one sticks with me as we could've put that game to bed if Garn had even a slither of football intelligence.

Overall, Garn is not the player that he thinks he is, and he's not the player that your average fan thinks he is either. He's a somewhat freshly promoted academy prospect that has some promising qualities but also carries some damning negative traits too, which balances him out. There will be fans that might respond to this post and claim that I'm being harsh or unfair. If you truly think this then you're one of the problems with this club. Ruben has dropped him and the board are clearly interested in listening to offers for him, if you think you know better then that's fine, but I'm here to tell you that you don't. If an offer was to come in at the right asking price (£70m currently) then we would be completely insane to not accept it. We could layer the contract with insane sell on clauses / buy back clauses etc to sweeten the deal if he all of a sudden turns into who HE thinks he is, but at this moment in time selling him would be a good decision from the board.

 

[Guv77]

The new man child.
Pathetic.

 

[That_Bloke]

Ah yeah, sell the 1 player we have who is capable of running with the ball and tries to make things happen because he was unhappy at being subbed in the first half.

With a team down to ten men, any manager would adjust immediately and more than often, an attacking player takes the hit. Garnacho making it all about himself doesn't help anyone. Especially given his abysmal performances this season.

This spoiled brat is a rotten apple. CR7's ego with less than a tenth of the talent and dedication, let alone the trophies. He has no business at a club like MU.

 

[Slevs]

Yeah he's not learning to mature when it comes to attitude. Shame cause potential is there if his head was in the right place.

Having said that, he actually played the overlap pass a couple of times when Dorgu was on the pitch, so that's a positive at least.

 

[ElDiabloRojo]

He was disappointed understandably.

Coming off while Hojlund stays on after stinking the field up for months.

But yeah, decent offer this summer and he is gone.

 

[Idxomer]

It's as if United still had Dan James, he would also be United's most threatening player but that would be by default and not due to him being some great talent.

 

[MikeUpNorth]

I think senior pros at the club were saying it about him from the moment he came into the squad.

Yeah, I remember Bruno going out of his way in interviews several times to call him out for his attitude.

 

[lsd]

I think it's true that Garnacho is all about himself and couldn't care less about the team.

Theres no place for that in a successful team

 

[The Boy]

Aguero, Ozil, Tevez, Rooney, Mane etc the list of players who've had a hissy fit at being taken off is huge and all he did is walk down the tunnel, I remember Aguero having a pitchside argument with Pep!

They're disappointed, embarrassed and pissed off, surely you want someone who cares rather than someone who doesn't. It's not as if he does it every time, he's human and was massively frustrated as were most United fans at that moment, he and Dorgu were linking up well, the team was playing better than it has done for while and then it all changed for him.

At the moment he is one of your most threatening players and he's still learning, the kid is a great player and has the potential to be even better. I don't understand why some of you want him gone. It's the same with Bruno, you're a better team with them on the pitch by a mile.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Could he not just be unhappy that he was taken off

Every player who gets subbed off is unhappy. But they suck it up and sit with their team mates on the bench. They also don’t make silly posts on social media after the match.

 

[Kaizane]

Again, everyone and their dogs making a mountain out of a molehill to create stories that aren't there. Why would he want to sit on the bench in a piss wet through kit, when he could go get a nice warm shower and change of clothes? What's he supposed to do, give himself pneumonia?? The media is far too quick to jump on everything about this club and players to undermine it at every opportunity for the clicks, and there are far too many fans too happy to oblige, it's pathetic.

 

[Maagge]

I think he made the right decision there. Both our strikers are horribly off form at the moment and the space opened up. Garnacho has more goals than either of the others this season. He probably thought, rightfully, he was the better option.

He might think both of them will feck it up, and he might be right given their performances this season. However, Amorim will be thinking whether Garnacho would play the pass if he trusted his teammates more and I don't think he's seeing any evidence that that would be the case so far. Furthermore, Garnacho himself is not exactly a great finisher.

In the end spaces often open up because players are making runs off the ball. However, if they never actually get the ball they might stop making those runs because there's a chance they're needed in a defensive transition when possession is lost. And then Garnacho will find space harder to come by as well.

Do we think he plays differently if we bring in new attackers in the summer? I think that's the question Amorim is asking.

 

[soapythecat]

Could he not just be unhappy that he was taken off

Does that make his actions professional? Not sure why he’s getting so much support- not the first time.

 

[Champ]

We should be much more concerned about players not being upset about being subbed in the first half

Exactly this.
Had he walked off with a smile on his face then I'd be much more concerned.

 

[Maagge]

Exactly this.
Had he walked off with a smile on his face then I'd be much more concerned.

It's fine being upset about being subbed off. Posting like he did on Instagram brings attention the club and team frankly don't need at the moment (or ever).

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Exactly this.
Had he walked off with a smile on his face then I'd be much more concerned.

I reckon there’s a happy medium between walking off with a smile on his face and flouncing off down the tunnel and posting emo social media posts straight after the match (which was, remember, a hard fought and positive result).

 

[Champ]

Every player who gets subbed off is unhappy. But they suck it up and sit with their team mates on the bench. They also don’t make silly posts on social media after the match.

Posting a picture of himself is now a silly post?
I don't use social media yet alone post pictures of myself, but pretty sure just posting a cool image of him looking sultry in the rain isn't silly?

 

[Devil_forever]

There was a moment where Hojlund was open in space in the box to his right and Garnacho decides to take a braindead shot against the defender instead. I've defended him a lot but stuff like that he should be getting out of his system by now. I wouldn't be bothered if we got rid in the summer.

 

[pocco]

Read Ten Hag's latest comments about modern footballers if you want to understand a player like Garnacho.

 

[Maagge]

Read Ten Hag's latest comments about modern footballers if you want to understand a player like Garnacho.

Link?

 

[FrankDrebin]

I think we will move him on in the summer.

 

[kouroux]

Even if he should not have been subbed ahead of Hojlund, this kid really thinks he is way better than he is. Incredibly arrogant and selfish for a player who runs around like a headless chicken

 

[Champ]

I reckon there’s a happy medium between walking off with a smile on his face and flouncing off down the tunnel and posting emo social media posts straight after the match (which was, remember, a hard fought and positive result).

A picture on social media isn't anything to be upset about, unless you're into over analysing everything or are 12 years old!
The manager didn't seem overly concerned, that's all the matters really.

 

[tomaldinho1]

Aguero, Ozil, Tevez, Rooney, Mane etc the list of players who've had a hissy fit at being taken off is huge and all he did is walk down the tunnel, I remember Aguero having a pitchside argument with Pep!

They're disappointed, embarrassed and pissed off, surely you want someone who cares rather than someone who doesn't. It's not as if he does it every time, he's human and was massively frustrated as were most United fans at that moment, he and Dorgu were linking up well, the team was playing better than it has done for while and then it all changed for him.

At the moment he is one of your most threatening players and he's still learning, the kid is a great player and has the potential to be even better. I don't understand why some of you want him gone. It's the same with Bruno, you're a better team with them on the pitch by a mile.

When you’re a good player no one cares. It would be like Hojlund adopting the Zlatan personality in interviews, ridiculous to act like a star before being even close to being one.