[Gabriel Djemba-Bebe]

No fecking way.

When Rashford was 20, he was in and out of a low scoring Mourinho team, with dross like Mkhitaryan and Sanchez starting ahead of him. He had pace and a decent finish but I don't think he really kicked on until Ole took over. Garnacho has similar attributes and also has a high ceiling.

 

[Berbaclass]

When Rashford was 20, he was in and out of a low scoring Mourinho team, with dross like Mkhitaryan and Sanchez starting ahead of him. He had pace and a decent finish but I don't think he really kicked on until Ole took over. Garnacho has similar attributes and also has a high ceiling.

He does not have similar attributes.

 

[Someone]

Do we have time to wait? What do you think is his ceiling?

If we have aspirations to get back to an eilite level is he even good enough, we need to be more ruthless.

I don't think it helps when at his age he's arguably our best players and biggest attacking threat. In any good side, picture the current Madrid side, there'd be other players getting the job done, and it'd never be just him. So he's the least of our problems imo. For us to reach the point of replacing Garnacho, we need to replace 7 or 8 players first.

 

[My only Eric]

He definitely can dribble. He dribbled past Reece James a couple of times in the second half today. He's a skilful dribbler who has gotten the better of some top full backs.

Also, on his current trajectory, as a 20 year old, he's well on course to be a more effective winger than Rashford.

Kick and run doesn’t make you a good consistent dribbler. Can he dribble in tight spaces? what happens if he loses his pace?
Also he’ll be lucky to hit Rashford’s highs.

Sadly, if you don’t have that innate technical ability at a young age, you’re unlikely to suddenly develop it in your 20s, especially when you’re picking up terrible habits like selfishness.

 

[Gabriel Djemba-Bebe]

Kick and run doesn’t make you a good consistent dribbler. Can he dribble in tight spaces? what happens if he loses his pace?
Also he’ll be lucky to hit Rashford’s highs.

Sadly, if you don’t have that innate technical ability at a young age, you’re unlikely to suddenly develop it in your 20s, especially when you’re picking up terrible habits like selfishness.

'Kick and run' sounds like you're describing Dan James. He has a lot more to his game than that.

 

[Gupz]

Think it is an issue that Garnacho doesn't have any experience peers to compete with or actually he has no real competitors at all. Therefore in the back of his head he has no urgency to deliver and perform every game. Which young players normally will have, if they were in a highly competitive squad.

 

[dubplate warrior]

Think it is an issue that Garnacho doesn't have any experience peers to compete with or actually he has no real competitors at all. Therefore in the back of his head he has no urgency to deliver and perform every game. Which young players normally will have, if they were in a highly competitive squad.

Nah, he just doesn't have the ability.

 

[-Supreme-]

Our attacking players share lots in common, lack of footballing IQ, selfishness and inconsistency This is what separates these players from Europa to Champions League level.

Fortunately with Garnacho he still got time to develop, but only if he is willing to listen and our senior players have to start delivering to set standards.

 

[My only Eric]

'Kick and run' sounds like you're describing Dan James. He has a lot more to his game than that.

Yes he does. But Dan James would have passed to Amad and Mazraoui.
Again it’s about the basics and the selfishness.

 

[saik]

Hes amazing at getting shots off. Constantly finds himself in dangerous positions, very intelligent movement and a very professional attitude. A lot of these things can't really be taught.

I'm not saying he's going to be world class. There is a lot he needs to work on. But I'd go as far to say that his max potential is around that level.

All depends on whether he can kick on. He's still only 20!

All the things you have mentioned can be clubbed under the same thing : good off the ball movement. That is all.

However, most of his shots are pathetically weak and ineffective. He's utterly selfish, taking low-probability shots from poor angles instead of passing to teammates in better positions to the detriment of the team. His involvement in build-up play is minimal, rarely contributing to interplay around the box and often struggling with basic passes. Case in point, his shit pass which lead to West Ham's first goal last week. His dribbling is shit too, as he rarely beats defenders one-on-one from a standpoint. Given the freedom he has on the pitch, he has to show a feck ton more to be considered having world class potential.

Moreover, his defensive work rate has noticeably dropped in recent games, with less tracking back and support in pressing. So yea, nowhere near the world class potential we seem to think.

 

[Gabriel Djemba-Bebe]

He does not have similar attributes.

Pace, often gives full backs a headache, capable of scoring the occasional worldy, but doesn't get his head up often enough. Sounds very similar to a 20 year old Rashford if you ask me.

 

[3KDré]

Would genuinely drop him for the selfishness in this performance.

 

[Berbaclass]

Pace, often gives full backs a headache, capable of scoring the occasional worldy, but doesn't get his head up often enough. Sounds very similar to a 20 year old Rashford if you ask me.

Pace? 20 y/o Rashford would leave Garnacho behind.

 

[lex talionis]

Disappointing. Missed a gilt edged chance and made some bad decisions.

 

[hasanejaz88]

I've never thought of him being a world class talent and so it doesn't surprise me he isn't showing signs of being one. He'll be a good player to have, someone who can be world class on his day but not going to be one of the best in his position.

Not saying we should sell him or anything, but don't think we should bank on him to be a superstar player on the left side.

 

[Ish]

He is selfish yeah, and definitely needs some sort of intervention because you can only be that selfish if you’re putting up the numbers. Will be interesting to see how he develops. For the record, there’s no real standout winger in the EPL who you can say is night and day ahead of him anyway - Salah/Saka excluded. Hoping the new manager can get the best out of him.

 

[OverratedOpinion]

Pace? 20 y/o Rashford would leave Garnacho behind.

He was also just better at actually beating a man, actually getting clear of a defender rather than moving knocking the ball past him then being forced back towards your own goal.

He was also a much, much better striker of the ball and a better passer too.

 

[Berbaclass]

He is selfish yeah, and definitely needs some sort of intervention because you can only be that selfish if you’re putting up the numbers. Will be interesting to see how he develops. For the record, there’s no real standout winger in the EPL who you can say is night and day ahead of him anyway - Salah/Saka excluded. Hoping the new manager can get the best out of him.

You're kidding right.?There is a number of PL wingers I'd have over him.

 

[crossy1686]

I've never thought of him being a world class talent and so it doesn't surprise me he isn't showing signs of being one. He'll be a good player to have, someone who can be world class on his day but not going to be one of the best in his position.

Not saying we should sell him or anything, but don't think we should bank on him to be a superstar player on the left side.

Did anyone ever think that about him? It’s the same for Mainoo also, these lads are good players but they’re not going to be world class and they aren’t going to carry the club kicking and screaming into league titles.

He’s good enough to play at this level and he’s only 20 years old. Time will tell how he’s remembered but people need to chill with their expectations.

 

[bosnian_red]

Really bad game from him. Still a top talent though of course. Yet again we are expecting too much from our teenage attackers like we did from Martial, from Rashford, and that tends to hinder their development.

 

[Rasmus_9]

I honestly feel really sorry for the guy. From the second he broke into our team he’s been pretty much first choice and relied upon for attacking output. As mentioned above, he, and United, needs two top quality wide forwards ahead of him so that we can manage his minutes and so he can learn from them. The burden of being the main provider of goals and assists for the biggest club in the world is too big for him at present

 

[arthurka]

Sorry but still don't think he should be a starter at United. We should have options to give him a rest and some competition.

 

[NotChatGPT]

Disaster of a performance

 

[redshaw]

One thing he is good at and I think Amorim will want to use is just his ball carrying ability and to get in that final third. A lot of work is needed on what he does after that.

West Ham away was the same for Garnacho, carried the ball well many times, constant threat getting to box but woeful once there. He has some skill to score amazing goals.

 

[bitcoin]

He is a talented player, but Amorim needs to rein in his tendency to shoot at every opportunity.

Looking for a teammate needs to become his first thought.

Would also like to see him cut out the petulance in the last few games when a teammate makes a mistake.

 

[VP89]

He is a talented player, but Amorim needs to rein in his tendency to shoot at every opportunity.

Looking for a teammate needs to become his first thought.

Would also like to see him cut out the petulance in the last few games when a teammate makes a mistake.

I'd be surprised if Amorim started him

 

[CallyRed]

He's as bright as he looks

 

[pcaming]

Reading this thread, why would any player bother to make an effort for this club.

 

[2 man midfield]

Reading this thread, why would any player bother to make an effort for this club.

There’s a few hundred thousand reasons why effort is the minimum you expect. Adoration is an added bonus - you need to earn it.

 

[Berbaclass]

Reading this thread, why would any player bother to make an effort for this club.

Wish he would too instead of himself.

 

[saik]

Reading this thread, why would any player bother to make an effort for this club.

Well then, he can leave. We won't miss him at all. Getting 50m for him would allow us to get an actual effective winger. Rather have players who are willing to play for the team rather than players like him who play for themselves.

 

[Oranges038]

Would genuinely drop him for the selfishness in this performance.

His decision making is trash. Technically he's got a lot of good qualities, but he needs to open his eyes, be more composed and aware of his team mates movements and stop being so fecking selfish.

Casemiro took a yellow for him today and gave him a bollocking for it. He needs more of that.

 

[kouroux]

Would genuinely drop him for the selfishness in this performance.

I'd accept this type of play if the guy is a seasoned game winner but Garnacho ?? Who tf enables this kinda football ?

 

[Judas]

He's got a long way to go. Still don't think he should be starting as often as he is. Him being one of our first choice attackers says a lot about the mess the squad is in. I'm not sure how good he will end up being, but decision making will make or break him.

 

[Gopher Brown]

Would genuinely drop him for the selfishness in this performance.

To defend him slightly, he probably didn't realise Mazraoui would be on the overlap as he hadn't done it all game. Also, where's the support for him from his teammates? He should have at least 2 passing options there, but the others just watch him and expect him to do something rather than helping

It's indicative of our lack of cohesion, rather than a personal failing for Garnacho.

 

[forevrared]

His attitude is shit. Literally looks like he’s been watching videos of Ronaldo having a strop on the pitch and is trying to emulate it. Only problem is he’s been the problem far more often than the players who haven’t done what he expected them to.

 

[diarm]

Have you got that out of your system now?

Out of my system?

There’s a fella on here calling 20 year old United players cnuts and not one of you said a word.

I call him out and offer some balance as to why a young player trying to break through in a dysfunctional team might deserve a small bit of benefit of the doubt and my notifications blow up with a load of you falling over each other to declare how shit and hopeless he is.

A small bit of perspective and self reflection would go a long way.

 

[kouroux]

To defend him slightly, he probably didn't realise Mazraoui would be on the overlap as he hadn't done it all game. Also, where's the support for him from his teammates? He should have at least 2 passing options there, but the others just watch him and expect him to do something rather than helping

It's indicative of our lack of cohesion, rather than a personal failing for Garnacho.

You could be right but that's also assuming Mzaraoui didn't shout at him. Tbh we don't know

 

[Litch]

That's up there with one of the worst performances I've seen in a utd shirt.....young lad I know but he's been in the first team long enough to know that is not acceptable.

 

[Drainy]

It is impressive how he manages to get so many shots off but he needs the talk

The one Ronaldo got about the difference between great goal scorers Vs scorers of great goals..

It's like he always wants to make it s beauty