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Close to £10m is pretty good considering how far he's fallen off, with a year left on his contract as well. Wouldn't be surprised if his wages were significantly higher than most places seem to report.
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I just don't see it.
He has talent, but he doesn't seem to have the mental game to apply it consistently or to continue his evolution as a footballer.
Hilarious to think some here evoked CR7 comparisons during Adnan's breakout performances under Moyes in 2013/14
Very sad end but a deserved one. Watching him in the reserves i thought he was nailed on and thought we had a star in our hands. Then he was so good on his debut season but since then he just dint push on. It is hugely down to him, from all reports in media he has attitude problems andwas a playstation boy.
If he had application of a rashford or a lingard( i dont think either one is talented enough for our first team) he would be a star. Another waste. Hope he can do well in spain or wherever he goes and united have a buy back clause.
More good news after the lukaku signing.
Imagine the money we saved if januzaj had some application of his talent. Its bad news.
Attitude was his problem. Pity.
Rashford is more talented than Januzaj. He did more in his first three months of his United career than Januzaj ever did for us. A bit shit, but Januzaj turned out to be just another Macheda.
A few good performances at a time when United were desperate for something to cheer and be positive about distorted his perceived talent and worth. I suspect he'll fade away and never do anything noteworthy.
We've just got to cut our losses with Adnan and give him a fresh start. There can't be much disappointment in regard to the relatively low transfer fee being touted. Yes, we would be talking £30m+ on the back of his debut season, but his confidence and reputation have been shot-to-bits now.
The only requirement we should insist on in the transfer, is a buy-back clause. Can't have another Pogba situation in the future.
The only requirement we should insist on in the transfer, is a buy-back clause. Can't have another Pogba situation in the future.
FTFY
Imagine the money we'd have saved if Messi had come to us instead of Barcelona?
There's no point imagining. As things stand, he has a terrible attitude. He has been given long enough to sort it out. It's great news. Sends the right message to any talented youngsters coming through.
He was built up on the 2 goals against Sunderland in the Moyes season. He hasnt shown anything at any other club he has played at either, other than a bad attitude. Legend in his own mind. £10 mill is all we can epect for him.
such a shame when we could all see he had the potential to be a top player. just goes to show that mentality is something that cant be underestimated if in football or in life in general.
i have seen so many friends and family with potential under achieve in life due to a lack of drive or what ever was the source of there downfall and probably mental toughness was the reason.
some people have a fight in there bellys and most don't and its a shame that adnan is in the most don't category because he has the skills to get to the top but obviously not the balls .
i posted my crap before reading the rest of the posts in the thread and it seems that we mostly have the same opinion on him being a lazy little fkr that could of been a lot better than he is if he just tryed harder . kind of gives me flash backs from my school reports
i have seen so many friends and family with potential under achieve in life due to a lack of drive or what ever was the source of there downfall and probably mental toughness was the reason.
some people have a fight in there bellys and most don't and its a shame that adnan is in the most don't category because he has the skills to get to the top but obviously not the balls .
i posted my crap before reading the rest of the posts in the thread and it seems that we mostly have the same opinion on him being a lazy little fkr that could of been a lot better than he is if he just tryed harder . kind of gives me flash backs from my school reports
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was always way overrated.
not fussed about him one way or another.
not fussed about him one way or another.
he showed the skills as a kid to be a really good player so i don't get your post, he always shown huge talent and looked like he could be a top player but faded?
He can still end up being a very good player.
Maybe the change in country and league might end up helping him.
Maybe the change in country and league might end up helping him.
one thing that still baffles me was the start of the season that he went on loan to dortmund. adnan was starting something like 2/3 of our first 5 matches and scored the winning goal at villa park.
we all kind of expect him to kick start his united career then but van gaal got other idea of course. loaning him out.
cannot argue about his attitude though. if people like warren joyce criticised him for not working hard enough, then who we are to disagree. part of his style and game certainly didnt help either. he is more of a luxury/elegent looking player rather than a workhorse/hardman type of a player. can look super lazy when things did not come off or not working out.
we all kind of expect him to kick start his united career then but van gaal got other idea of course. loaning him out.
cannot argue about his attitude though. if people like warren joyce criticised him for not working hard enough, then who we are to disagree. part of his style and game certainly didnt help either. he is more of a luxury/elegent looking player rather than a workhorse/hardman type of a player. can look super lazy when things did not come off or not working out.
Hope that's rhetorical. Wouldn't exchange the Croatian's future at 29 for what this spoiled kid has to offer.
Having said that, Griezmann made himself as winger in Real Sociedad, might be an omen.
Agree with this.
I'm less confident than I was that Januzaj will become a superb player but I still believe his peak will be far higher than we have seen from Mata at United, or Mkhitaryan to date.
I also think it is important for our recruitment of the top 16 year olds from European teams that we give plenty of opportunities to the likes of Januzaj, Pereira, TFM etc, otherwise sooner or later, the top junior talents will view us as being a waste of time.
I imagine Adnan deserves a lot of the blame but don't think the club have helped him at all. For different reasons, Moyes, LVG and Mourinho are all hugely problematic managers for creative attacking players.
A very disappointing, and totally unnecessary, sequence of events.
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No he didn't. His performance was largely overrated due to how terrible the rest of the team was under Moyes and the glimpse of hope he gave to the fans meant everybody overlooked all his flaws and the fact that he did basically feck all despite all the praise.
He would piss on the SPL.
Thought we had sold him to Real Sociedad already. Did they back out?
No.just no. Rashford isn't Januzaj talent level. What you see is what has been happening for a long time in football. Sometimes less talented players make it further than far more talented players.
After watching both Rashford and Januzaj, there is just no way anyone without any bias would come to the conclusion that Rashford is more talented than Adnan, it's not even close.
Rashford is in the hardworker school and his talent isn't something that would strike as obvious like a Januzaj.
It's a shame how things have turned out for Adnan but that's the reality of football sometimes.
Don't agree at all. He wasn't overrated, nor were his flaws overlooked at the time. His performance away at Chelsea was at least as good as Luke Shaw's the following year.
Are we selling with a buy back or sell on clauses?
It's not as clear-cut as you claim.
I like Januzaj a lot but his finishing at PL level has been woeful. Shot selection often terrible.
Plenty of imagination in his passing and better than Rashford at running with the ball. Rashford is good at flicks, backheels and other link play.
Last I heard was that Januzaj's camp were totally fed-up with United and did not want any buy back clause in the deal. They wanted a clean break.
But they may not be in a position to block such clauses.
No Rashford isn't better even in those fields. Januzaj is a far more technically better player than Rashford(Rashford is pretty subpar technically). Just the way they touch the ball alone makes it very obvious.
Look I know Adnan failed to make it here and it's quite a shame but some revisionism(as expected from this forum) has been going on especially given their respective situations currently.
Don't need a buy back clause, this kid will never be anything More than a mid level journeyman.
he will probably end up playing for 5 or 6 mid level teams around Europe in his career not really excelling at any.
he will probably end up playing for 5 or 6 mid level teams around Europe in his career not really excelling at any.
It's like how some people have convinced themselves the Rashford is more talented than Martial. Rashford will probably end up having a better career than the other two because he is more than willing to put in the work it takes
I think Real Sociedad pay too much for him but hopefully he will do better than Moyes there lol
Was Batistuta more talented than Crespo? In all essience what does it matter? You either make it or you don't. Rashford is on his way, Januzaj is a flop.
Bournemouth paid 15 million for Ibe, we are getting robbed here
I don't like the revisionism here like how Januzaj doesn't have the talent @Regulus Arcturus Black . And it's not like Januzaj has more talent than Rashford either like some other like to think.
Here is my take. Januzaj is clearly talented with the ball at his feet. He has good dribbling skill. Has vision for a pass & technique to weigh a good pass... You can say more than Rashford. However, people often mistake ability on ball with being superior talent. I will reference Cryuff's belief again that an individual player possess the ball for average of 3 minutes per games. Possession stats may improve since LVG pioneered the ultra possession style, but a player, especially those in attacking position deep in opposition's defense wouldn't have seen much improvement. So how the players do without having possession of the ball, how he participate in team tactic is also important. Rashford has that kind of talent, a kind of mental talent.
Januzaj seems to be a type of player who prefer to team to serve him. We did that in Moyes season and he's not too bad. LVG prefers a more stiff team play approach ( overboard). For a player to play a selfish kind of game, he has to be extreme talented to be worth it. Januzaj ain't that talented. Even the extreme talents had to learn. Here we heard plenty of account of Januzaj's attitude that he doesn't buckle down to learn. Ability to learn/ improve is also a type of talent. Then again, Rashford showed he again is more talented in this sense. So it's different than the narrative about being headless chicken. Learning here is to improve the understanding of the game. Rooney is an example I think is fit to use as he has both on ball talent & workrate, but lack the discipline & ability to learn properly. He was too reliant on his physicality & couldn't cope once his physicality decline.
Edit: SAF was quick to rate Ronaldo as having the talent to become a great very early in his career for us: 1. Talent with the ball 2. Mental talent to stay on track, putting work into his developement 3. Talent of learning. He can absorb his training, experience & continue to grow.
Here is my take. Januzaj is clearly talented with the ball at his feet. He has good dribbling skill. Has vision for a pass & technique to weigh a good pass... You can say more than Rashford. However, people often mistake ability on ball with being superior talent. I will reference Cryuff's belief again that an individual player possess the ball for average of 3 minutes per games. Possession stats may improve since LVG pioneered the ultra possession style, but a player, especially those in attacking position deep in opposition's defense wouldn't have seen much improvement. So how the players do without having possession of the ball, how he participate in team tactic is also important. Rashford has that kind of talent, a kind of mental talent.
Januzaj seems to be a type of player who prefer to team to serve him. We did that in Moyes season and he's not too bad. LVG prefers a more stiff team play approach ( overboard). For a player to play a selfish kind of game, he has to be extreme talented to be worth it. Januzaj ain't that talented. Even the extreme talents had to learn. Here we heard plenty of account of Januzaj's attitude that he doesn't buckle down to learn. Ability to learn/ improve is also a type of talent. Then again, Rashford showed he again is more talented in this sense. So it's different than the narrative about being headless chicken. Learning here is to improve the understanding of the game. Rooney is an example I think is fit to use as he has both on ball talent & workrate, but lack the discipline & ability to learn properly. He was too reliant on his physicality & couldn't cope once his physicality decline.
Edit: SAF was quick to rate Ronaldo as having the talent to become a great very early in his career for us: 1. Talent with the ball 2. Mental talent to stay on track, putting work into his developement 3. Talent of learning. He can absorb his training, experience & continue to grow.
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Rashford isn't as talented as Januzaj?
Some people have a really warped idea of Januzaj's level. He's a Show Pony.- Status