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Sorry to see him go all things considered, but definitely the right thing to do. He was given chances and he couldn't deliver.

I hope he gets his career on track and becomes the player most of us thought he could be a few years ago.

Great work by Mou et al to get nearly 10 million for him
 
One season wonder, shit attitude. Won't be missed.
wasn't he on 1 year left? 10m isn't bad .
 
~£10m and a first option clause is a decent deal. Obviously doesn't seem like a lot in today's market but that's always the way with rejects from big clubs.
 
Hope he knuckles down and turns it round. He can be a very good player and people saying otherwise have short memories.
 
Brightonian said:
~£10m and a first option clause is a decent deal. Obviously doesn't seem like a lot in today's market but that's always the way with rejects from big clubs.
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Looking back, do you think it's fair to say it was perhaps unreasonable to sneer at people that were reticent about the idea that Januzaj was special, just weeks after his first team appearance, on the basis of your self-professed youth expertise?
 
Brwned said:
Looking back, do you think it's fair to say it was perhaps unreasonable to sneer at people that were reticent about the idea that Januzaj was special, just weeks after his first team appearance, on the basis of your self-professed youth expertise?
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I think it's unfair to years later claim the better judgement.

What's happened in the intervening years doesn't change the potential Januzaj had back then.
 
10 Million means he is the 9th in the "highest fee ManUtd received" record.
 
If Januzaj wants to continue on his Moyes tribute trip, Moyes needs to find a job.
 
Dobbs said:
I think it's unfair to years later claim the better judgement.

What's happened in the intervening years doesn't change the potential Januzaj had back then.
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I'd mostly agree. The point isn't about better judgment (I certainly didn't display it at the time) but rather about the fallacy that watching some youth games makes it ok to dismiss and ridicule people who express less positive opinions about a player's potential given so many of the different variables at play. It's incredibly difficult to predict, as Januzaj has shown.
 
Had glimpses of class but looks like another Ravel Morrison situation. Pissed LvG's staff off and now even Mourinho can't see a light in a tunnel for the lad.

The biggest test of character ahead of him but if he'll be humble enough like Pereira did in Granada then who knows. Won't be surprised if he's a late bloomer type of footballer.
 
Maybe the fact the Moyes season was such a huge disaster meant that we overrated Januzaj because he was the one bright spot of the season.
 
Djemba-Djemba said:
Maybe the fact the Moyes season was such a huge disaster meant that we overrated Januzaj because he was the one bright spot of the season.
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Absolutely. Almost all other players under-performed that season. Januzaj was the only bright star.
 
Brwned said:
I'd mostly agree. The point isn't about better judgment (I certainly didn't display it at the time) but rather about the fallacy that watching some youth games makes it ok to dismiss and ridicule people who express less positive opinions about a player's potential given so many of the different variables at play. It's incredibly difficult to predict, as Januzaj has shown.
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Yeah I'd agree with that, not the best way to make your point. Though I still don't think what's happened since proves anybody who thought of him as special to be wrong.

Did he really claim to be an expert?
 
Kammy26 said:
Haha 2 game wonder more like. Someone in the twitter thread said he had as much talent as Ryan giggs :wenger: :lol:
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I think that was his downfall. We gave him the 11 and gave him a bumper contract to ward off others. Plus we hyped him up a lot. He let it go to his head and it affected his career.
 
Van Piorsing said:
Had glimpses of class but looks like another Ravel Morrison situation. Pissed LvG's staff off and now even Mourinho can't see a light in a tunnel for the lad.

The biggest test of character ahead of him but if he'll be humble enough like Pereira did in Granada then who knows. Won't be surprised if he's a late bloomer type of footballer.
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I don't think he can be put in the "late bloomer" bracket. I believe we've all seen that he is talented but needs to work on the said talent. In his case, I think the application just isn't there. At this point, with all the reports of his "attitude", I think the best case scenario for him is becoming a regular in a team that consistently finishes 10th-15th.
 
iKnowNothing said:
I don't think he can be put in the "late bloomer" bracket. I believe we've all seen that he is talented but needs to work on the said talent. In his case, I think the application just isn't there. At this point, with all the reports of his "attitude", I think the best case scenario for him is becoming a regular in a team that consistently finishes 10th-15th.
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Yup, which is nothing bad, by the way. Humbling experiences will make him a far better player than starting from a status of future United star on a plate.
 
prath92 said:
I think that was his downfall. We gave him the 11 and gave him a bumper contract to ward off others. Plus we hyped him up a lot. He let it go to his head and it affected his career.
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Plus bad career decisions and bad management from Utd.

On all sides it's actually a textbook case of how not to nurture talent.
 
Dobbs said:
Plus bad career decisions and bad management from Utd.

On all sides it's actually a textbook case of how not to nurture talent.
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I don't think united is really guilty here. He never took his chances and when we asked him to go on loan to some England club he forcibly left for Dortmund.
 
Cheeky adnandos?

Hope he does well in Spain. He has the talent. It wasn't a fluke how he played in his breakout season or how good he looked in the youth setup. Was he over rated? Probably. How was your average poster to know he had a bad attitude though? Hopefully he steps up again. Could still be a very good player in there. It just goes to show though about there being far too much money and player power in the game the contract he got after a few good games and the worry he'd be poached if he didn't sign up. If he does absolutely nothing else he'll still make millions out of the game, he's "made it" already. Doubt he's getting a wage cut at his next club either so he needs some kind of natural desire. If saying F you to United for selling him drives him on then so be it. He wasn't going to make it here the way things developed . Best of luck to him. Hopefully he can kick on again and show why he was once such a sought after youth player.
 
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prath92 said:
I don't think united is really guilty here. He never took his chances and when we asked him to go on loan to some England club he forcibly left for Dortmund.
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No doubt it's mainly down Januzaj and the advisors around him but I still don't think we (LvG) did all that great.
 
verminater said:
I know. I thought that.
Then I started to put a list together.
Ronaldo
Beckham
Veron
RvN
ADM
Mikkel?
Then gave up.
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Hm, yeah, I can't think of many players either. I think perhaps Heinze was sold for £10m.
 
Ronaldo - 80m
Di Maria - 45m
Schneiderlin - 22m
Memphis - 17m
Welbeck - 16m
Veron - 15m
RvN- 14m

From my memory
 
Dobbs said:
Yeah I'd agree with that, not the best way to make your point. Though I still don't think what's happened since proves anybody who thought of him as special to be wrong.

Did he really claim to be an expert?
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He didn't claim to - he made it clear that he thought the only people that should be allowed to comment are youth aficionados...albeit only if they're going against the grain. It wasn't just a discussion among peers it was an authoritative stance dismissing other folk.
Brwned said:
Do you think that's what I was saying? I thought it was pretty clear I was making the simple point that people were getting ahead of themselves, just as they did with the Kagawa-Iniesta comparisons. Januzaj is just like Suso or any number of technically gifted roaming playmakers that populate the game at the moment, IMO. There's so many of them in the Spanish youth teams. There's a bucketload of them around the world with that same elegance, vision and maturity that people are saying is unusual for his age, so in the grand scheme of things I don't think special is the right word for it. Very promising no doubt, but we hear this kind of thing about so many of these technically excellent young players. It's the kind of thing we make fun of Arsenal fans for. The latest in line being this Zelalem kid who's impressing in much the same way as Januzaj at the age of 16. I guess he's super special.
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Brightonian said:
No, he's a step above most of the sort of talented youngsters you're talking about. A year younger than Suso and comfortably the better player, for example. Arsenal do talk about their kids all the time, which is probably part of why you've got the impression that they have lots of players of Januzaj's ability. They don't - we're comfortably better than them at both U18 and U21 level. Januzaj, despite being only 18, was the best player on the pitch in the U21 final against Spurs, which we won.

I'm guessing you don't really follow the U18s and U21s much? I may be wrong, but I can only go on the fact that you don't really post in the youth forum that I can remember. Don't you think people who do are better qualified to judge whether or not Januzaj is 'special'?
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That said, if you can't see that people - yourself included - got carried away at the time then I can't imagine we'll find a middle ground.
 
Bye, thanks for those 3 games or something..
 
I read somewhere he's getting the number 8 shirt at Sociedad, i think he is definitely gone. Sad to see this though
 
I'll always remember how many people typed his name as Janujaz. And those goals against Sunderland I guess.
 
Lay said:
Bye, thanks for those 3 games or something..
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I don't really understand the whole '3 games' stuff. His breakout season was very good. He's been a victim of not only his own choices and attitude but also circumstances too. Hope he goes onto good things.
 
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