Striker10
"Ronaldo and trophies > Manchester United football
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It's a good move for us. He's at a good age with lots to prove. The only troubling thing for me is the word 'spaculation'....
His delivery from set-pieces is excellent.
His delivery from set-pieces is excellent.
Define "good" at taking freekicks? Scoring one in five? Or hitting the target on all of them? IMO, scoring directly from 20% is probably fantastic given what we've seen. TBH, we were spoilt by Becks and then Ronaldo.
But as long as we dont do the same ol' hit the wall, into the stands, or for corners hit the first man, ill be happy. Young has hit some really good corners as well (maybe not as much last year)
Define "good" at taking freekicks? Scoring one in five? Or hitting the target on all of them? IMO, scoring directly from 20% is probably fantastic given what we've seen. TBH, we were spoilt by Becks and then Ronaldo.
But as long as we dont do the same ol' hit the wall, into the stands, or for corners hit the first man, ill be happy. Young has hit some really good corners as well (maybe not as much last year)
We could quite easily wait until January and that price would halve.
Grenade!
What a fatty, the wife.
Someone once posted stats on how often players score from free-kicks. Beckham or Ronaldo didn't convert anything like as much as 20%. The actual figure was shockingly low.
Numbers in the Mirror seem well off, £14m fee and then a contract over 5 years worth £20m. Thats what I think they are getting at, so £70k a week rather then £130k.
The Daily Mail say's £15m.....
That's not very nice, Jay.
I've been jostling for the past 3 hrs with the router. Admittedly, I'm a bit grumpy.
Lets try it again with a little more politeness, My, look at his wifey, sure does look really horizontally gifted. A woman of real mass and substance.
I've been jostling for the past 3 hrs with the router. Admittedly, I'm a bit grumpy.
Lets try it again with a little more politeness, My, look at his wifey, sure does look really horizontally gifted. A woman of real mass and substance.
What a fatty, the wife.
I think so. It seems unlikely that 10 teams in the league hadn't scored one goal from a rebound off a free kick in half a season.
Meh, dont think we need him, he's not better than Nani or Valencia.
20 million is too much, as are the 130k a week wages, hopefully all us doubters are proved wrong and he has a great season but for the moment, not too happy.
Better options out there IMO. We needed someone with technical abilities, someone who can spot a pass, we've signed someone who spends most of his time repeatedly swinging in hopeful crosses.
Where the feck are these 20m/130m a week figures coming from?
And are people assuming this will be the last signing of the summer?
Set piece stats are always unreliable....Direct ones not so much, but still a little. The success of an indirect free-kick depends on loads more than just the taker. The defenders, the attackers and how many you're likely to get in a match for example.
If Beckham's stats are unimpressive as Pogue states, it's far more likely the result of one of these (and remember United will get more free kicks than most teams, making the averages less flattering) than Beckham not actually being one of the greatest set-piece deliverers.
Like most things in football, it's better to just watch them and make a judgement.
Gotcha.
Be interesting to know how many goals were scored and who scored them.
The data would be a bit meaningless if Blackburn only scored a couple of goals and Pedersen got both of them!
Where the feck are these 20m/130m a week figures coming from?
And are people assuming this will be the last signing of the summer?
I meant unimpressive in comparison to the hypothetical 20% mentioned above.
His stats were better than almost all his peers iirc and considerably better than Ronaldo's.
By all accounts hes not being signed to compete with Nani or Valencia, it appears Sir alex wants to use him as a central player much like Villa did last season, the fact hes comfortable at playing on either flank is just another bonus.
Looks like we're going to have a very pacey forward line next season with Nani/Valencia/Young/Rooney and Hernandez vying for spots, back to the counter-attacking style of 06/07 perhaps.
Where the feck are these 20m/130m a week figures coming from?
And are people assuming this will be the last signing of the summer?
Oh OK...I wouldn't be surprised RE:Ronaldo..His set pieces were always (and still are) incredibly erratic. They were just excellent when they worked. They often didn't..Whereas Beckham's consistency in getting the ball to where he wanted it, or into a decent place is surely unsurpassed (for us at least)
If he plays central, it means Hernandez or Rooney wont play, cos he cant play in a two man midfield.
It has to be to compete with Valencia and Nani, which is all very well, except there are better players out there who would cost less.
I've seen it a few places, mostly twitter, which is very reliable
It wont be our last signing, I think we'll sign 2/3 more.