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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
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Steady on mate!
As long as we're not putting to much pressure on him then...
If there is enough money to cover both then that would be great, I was just speculating that we could save money and put it all into the one position we are weakest in.
I agree that the squad depth is very important these days and we already have the strongest in the league IMO.
True but it's not unusual that fans growing up watching football to like the idea of having the next great Brazilian in our team, plus given our success in developing exciting talents like Ronaldo and Nani who bring flair and skill to our team, the hope will always be there that we could strike gold again with one of these young players.
Fair enough, he is a decent player and my initial post calling him mediocre was perhaps born from frustration, I just don't see him as anything more than Park's successor.
That is usually the case but when we already have two to drawer wingers, adding in another seasoned PL winger to go along with Park will make it very hard.
The difference was the scouts seemed to see something special with Hernandez and he was coming in with Welbeck obviously planned to be loaned out, and Owen incredibly injury prone, so he had a good shot at 3rd spot.
He's played most of his football for Wigan and I believe Watford as a wide forward though.
Why is it important he is English? I thought we were well covered on the home grown front.
What makes you think that Young would not do the same? Valencia and Yorke were surprise buys from smaller EPL sides. They both proved useful to have around.
I wouldn't claim Villa to be a small side. And Yorke had been very consistent, even exceptional at times, for Villa for close to a decade before his transfer. It was a very good signing when it occurred, though only because the likes of Batistuta, Shearer, Salas et al had turned down moves prior to. It's also been said that SAF's brother tried to get the club to sign a guy named Van Nistelrooy that summer but PSV beat them to it.
I'm not saying he can't, I am saying with Park and Cleverley we don't necessarily need him to, where as Hernandez was looking to take the spot from a player who is often injured.
25 Million for a player who is in his last year of contract 
Villa will atmost get around 15Mil for Young
Villa will atmost get around 15Mil for Young
£25m Mirror just making up numbers.
Mirror just making up numbers.This story is no way true.
No club pays more than 10-12m for him in the summer.
No club pays more than 10-12m for him in the summer.
Is he any better than the wingers we already have?
I'd much rather we stick with Valencia, Nani and Park. Each one is a different type of player. Each one complements each other perfectly.
I'd much rather we stick with Valencia, Nani and Park. Each one is a different type of player. Each one complements each other perfectly.
Think he's different than them.
Valencia and Park are very direct wingers that like to cut in and Nani is a trickster winger. Ashely is fine getting chalk on his boots and making things happen from there, great technique, but can also play at the top of a 5 man midfield. He offers set piece abilities with his free kicks and corners. Would be our best crosser of the ball too alongside Valencia.
Don't know if we need him now. It seemed like the need was greater when Park and Valencia were out. Now they're back we seem to be coping well. And we've got reserves / young players who need to make the step up.
He can buy out his contract for under 4m cant he?
Top teams have agreed to not use the Webster ruling.
I'm not saying a team will use it, but if Young wants out, then Villa would be silly to put an unrealistic price tag on him.
He'll probably go to Liverpool
He'll probably go to Liverpool
Not to mention that Cleverley is coming back and Fabio looks like he can potentially get games out on the wing.
Hope we get him.
As do I. Good talented british players on the cheap are a rare commodity. Even more so, ones who are ready to be slotted into the first team right away and with the impending retirement of scholes and giggs, we need to make sure that a good part of the squad remains british.
And the fact a Nani/Valencia/Young/Park wing quartet rotated throughout the season would be fantastic, think Scholes will retire in the summer and Giggs will be used a lot more centrally next year as he was in the games against rent boys.
Yep, besides All 4 of those players that you have mentioned are versatile enough to cover other positions as well. I honestly dont see why someone would think signing Young would be a hindrance. Obviously other than the fact that it shouldnt come at a price of signing a central mid which obviously is an area that needs to be addressed more urgently.
Christ if that £25 million figure were true I'd hope we'd go for Mata instead. All the same positions, all the same qualities but a great left foot and a better player.
Nah, Villa would be stupid to ask for that kind of money. Obviously not more than the club who might be willing to pay it.
Think Rodwell could be the midfield signing, and im not 100% convinced by him, would be happy with him along with a proper ready made top player like a Sneijder but not sure if thats possible, Rodwell alone wont really improve our midfield options as of today.
Young
De Gea
Sneijder
My perfect summer.
Yeah I cant believe the figure either. But, well, sometimes English players do go for ridiculous prices. If he's available at a knockdown price I can see why we would be interested. If he's only available for figures around £20 million then there are better options to look at
Of course its not true, Villa are in no position to demand anything, Youngs got a year left on his contract, in 6 months he'll be able to talk to clubs of his own free will, they wont run the risk of losing him on a free when they could get up to 15 mil for him this summer.
He wont go for a penny above 15 million, id be surprised if he went for more than 12.
£25m
The Mirror is such a rag. He'll no doubt move and it'll be for a fraction of that with his contract position.
The Mirror is such a rag. He'll no doubt move and it'll be for a fraction of that with his contract position.
If he's as good as some seem to think then what's to say a club like Liverpool who have already shown they'll pay over the odds, wont come in and stump up a big fee to try and get him?
When they can go in for another talented player with that kind of money and get young for free a year later ? Nah, even they cant be so desperate to pay 25m.
If it comes down to a choice between us and Liverpool.....
To be honest im not even convinced Liverpool are going to throw around that much money, all the hailing of Henry after january about spending all that money people forget Suarez and Carroll were funded by the Torres sale, he actually spent a net of 5 million.....hardly flashing the cash is it.
Dont think Liverpool will be the big spenders a lot of their fans think they will.
Depends entirely on who comes in for him. There could still be a bidding war between several English clubs. He'd improve Liverpool and Chelsea more than us and both of those could be splashing the cash in the summer
How do they know he wont move this summer?
We went in and activated buyout clauses on Nani and Anderson because other English sides were circling them. If Ashley Young is determined to be a player Liverpool, City or Chelsea want then there's every reason to think they'll go the extra yard and outbid the rest.
Outbid by a couple of million maybe. But not 25 mill for a player in the last year of his contract. Henry or for that matter nobody would be that stupid. If Young already has a destination in mind, then that brings Villa's stance down a bit, not the club in question.
As for Young's position, I'm quite sure he wants to move what with delaying contract talks and Villa languishing near the relegation zone. He's in good position to command a desired move for himself. There are only two questions here, one, where does Young want to go, two, does that club want him or not, if not, there will be a host of good clubs vying for signature, but not for 25 mill, I assure you.
If Young is that good though there will be other suitors such as Ekeke mentioned, So if Liverpool want him it's unlikely they can just wait a year. whoever wants him will make it happen this summer, but again I think it's unlikely if managers in the Prem rate him as some in here do, that there wont be a bidding war that will raise the price beyond the bargain figure some are expecting us to get him for.
If it comes down to a choice between us and Liverpool.....
To be honest im not even convinced Liverpool are going to throw around that much money, all the hailing of Henry after january about spending all that money people forget Suarez and Carroll were funded by the Torres sale, he actually spent a net of 5 million.....hardly flashing the cash is it.
Dont think Liverpool will be the big spenders a lot of their fans think they will.
You make a fair point about the Torres sale offsetting the January buys, but City and Chelsea are other possible contenders, probably not City as they seem to be aiming a bracket higher with Sanchez, but I could see Chelsea being interested given Malouda's age and Young is from London so that could be a factor as well.
Ozil went for 12m did he not?
Young for 25m?
Young for 25m?
If they're serious with that 25m price tag, it's essentially them saying it's worth more than 12m or so to them to keep him for another season - which seems a bit silly.
I agree there wont be a bidding war because IMO the whole thing is already settled behind the scenes, its just not official or announced, either of the two.
But I do not think that anybody will be paying over the odds, irrespective of Liverpool/any other club's needs or Young's quality. He's a very good player, no doubt, but no world beater yet atleast.
Young is as good as Park and Valencia. He doesn't need to be better than they to be a good addition.
Exactly. There wont be any bidding war for him no matter how many sides want him. Villa wont want to risk losing him for nada.
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