2024 U.S. Elections | Trump v Harris
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I've always known he's a bit of a dawg.
I watched Stewart’s whole set and that’s not what he said… when the feck did Variety become a Maga mouth piece.
We all don’t mind a Chinese here and there.
Polls are not good for stress levels. Looking like this could go either way and potenyially end up 270 to 268 - the legal shenanigans and faithless elector nonsense that will come out of that will be mayhem.
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Can it be 269-269?
Yes it can.
How is Harris in Nebraska?
Harris winning the Rust Belt plus Trump winning the Sun Belt and Nebraska's 2nd district.
However in that case Trump wins due to winning more states.
Most recent NYT/Siena poll (yesterday) had her +12.
Other taken before ranged from +7-9.
Not happening.
Yeah, fair. Although imagine a faithless elector in Wisconsin pushing it to a tie...
It’s a ways down the list of things but this is bonkers from a supposed democracy.
“We may have a tie in this hugely undemocratic process, what then?”
“Perhaps we revert to the popular vote at that point, ensure everyone in the country has an equal vote?”
“Nah, feck that, let’s go by states won and let a massively smaller number of people dictate who wins”
So between you and @dumbo this is the only "fecking disgusting" statement you could find from Harris on Gaza?
I do agree that she shouldn't have said "most tragic" as that leaves people the room to say that she feels that Oct 7 was more tragic that what has happened previously. I really don't think she is somehow ranking which atrocity was more tragic.
And she was right to say that Oct 7 happen first, as she contexted that with "this phase" of the conflict, as she is not pretending that the hostilities started on Oct 7, like many other Republicans would like the country to believe.
Yet you want to highlight this as your example of her "fecking disgusting" statements on Gaza?
Negating the fact she also said in that very same clip.....
Its "Undeniable what is happening in Gaza"
There are "So many tragic stories coming from Gaza"
and "What is critically important is acknowledging what has happened in Gaza in terms of the extraordinary number of innocent Palestinians that have been killed and talking seriously and speaking truth about that."
I challenge you to find any remotely sympathetic comments towards Palestinians, or Ukrainians for that matter, from the other candidate?
It's an over simplification
But ye. the gist of it is this process was never meant for the plebs but rather a group of selected elites and with enfranchisement these arcane procedures become more and more absurd.
Theoretically, but nah that won't happen.
The word was this was down to a Republican activist, names Scott Pressler who has been working with Lara Trump. He has been targeting the Armish community in PA.
Really happy GOP didn't get to remove Nebraska 2nd district, as 270 is not an unrealistic scenario.
I think we are in for some of the craziest few months in US political history if polls are anything to go by.
Everything is so close that it is almost meaningless to even talk about the possibility of polling error. Just 1 point on average in either candidate's favour is decisive. Could be up to 312 for Trump, or up to 319 to Harris (if it's 2 points wrong).
The margins are so thin that a tweet by Taylor Swift on election day might just be enough to tip the scales - it's crazy.
That could very well be decisive. I'm still banking on the Rust Belt + NE-2. Somewhat hopeful about GA, but I don't really dare to expect too much.
Whatever happens next week, if Harris wins, its likely going to get messy over the ensuing two months. Whoever wins the house is going to have a lot of say in things.
I have a feeling that there is enough voters to reject Trumps bullshit again. Maybe just copium.
Nah, not copium. I'm relatively confident Harris will win. It's all very close but I think Americans will not give Trump a 2nd term.
This could be a "famous last words" moment but I'll risk it.
Its sensationalist bs that has no basis in reality.
1. 5 of the 7 swing states governors are Democratic
2. The new House that oversee the certification get sworn in on Jan 3rd. If that is still a GOP house on Jan 6th then 99% Harris already lost.
We simply don't know what will happen, especially with the house so close.
I'm trying to avoid some of this thread bc the Trump stuff just makes me sad and angry.
I'm not otherwise this type of person but he may be the only one I may actively try and go out of my way to piss on his grave when he's gone. Anyone else feel the same?
I'm not otherwise this type of person but he may be the only one I may actively try and go out of my way to piss on his grave when he's gone. Anyone else feel the same?
Agreed. Its her most plausible path to 270, which wouldn't be possible with NE2.
They are.
Betting odds are so important. Don't listen to anyone say otherwise
Brings memories back this. I still have all my dataNot this againYou're back!
Fair play to him, he's a true believer.
Dems need to flip 4 seats to win back the House, the majority of them in CA + NY. If they cant manage that then top of the ticket will have gone to shit.
Yes, but we don't know if that will happen or not because we have no idea who will actually turn up to vote next week. Past elections can't be used as points of reference with demographics shifting so fluidly, especially given the fact that Harris has only been a candidate for 2-3 months. The house will therefore be critical and we have no idea who will win it.
I think this as well. Trump was a bit of a novelty and wildcard when he announced he was running in 2015, but now 9 years later (and the fact that we've all seen a Trump presidency). Throw in the fact that Trump is older, erratic and may surround himself with more sycophants in his cabinet, I think the sentiment of "I can't be asked with this" is what will help Harris