@Kinsella will you just admit that you defend Trump because he ended Roe v. Wade?
I’ve not forgotten what your tag line is from
I’ve not forgotten what your tag line is from
2024 U.S. Elections | Trump v Harris
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Trump is Trump. I remember him going to Mexico in 2016. Yes, it was earlier in the cycle, but still. He can change the conversation by one trip from Florida to Puerto Rico.
I won’t be surprised if he goes there.
I understand that part, but there’s an opportunity here to explore. PA has the second largest PR community. A visit there might have more value than another stop in the traditional swing states.
But I would totally understand if she decides not to go. In that case, she should talk about it and meet with leaders of this community, as the Vice President and as a candidate.
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Sounds to me like Trump thinks he's losing. Cranky, stressed and plotting ways to feck with the election process. Both campaigns have reasons to be positive and reasons to be worried so not much has changed there then.
Was just reading trumps rally next Tuesday is right in the middle of Allentown Penn.
And even after no one came out to denounce him live right there that night? The comments were so bad if it was a true "shock" someone should have come out immediately and apologized for this excuse to work. This was a silly unforced error. He didnt need to feed this hate rally to the base.
Will be interesting if they try to get trump to stay on message and throw the comedian under the bus more. they are already blaming him saying he wasnt vetted at all. Ridiculous.
And even after no one came out to denounce him live right there that night? The comments were so bad if it was a true "shock" someone should have come out immediately and apologized for this excuse to work. This was a silly unforced error. He didnt need to feed this hate rally to the base.
Trump is Trump. He will do anything to change the narrative.
Just to show that he went there, that he cares and that what was said at MSG doesn’t represent his views, blah blah blah.
Trust the right wing media to spin it, and trust some talking heads on the main stream media to repeat that. We have seen that before, haven’t we?
Personally I don't think the rallys and pageantry were the worst stuff the Nazis did. I'd say that was the death camps.
I can talk about the Riefenstahl footage all day but not in lieu of the documentation of an orchestrated extermination.
If you get my drift.
When the dust settles on the election and hopefully kamala is in charge, I trust people will have the same energy for other, ongoing Nazi parallels. And that they don't confirm the suspicions some have that MAGA was merely an aesthetics disagreement.
Supercalifragilistic expialidocious. Because I might need to find this post again.
I can talk about the Riefenstahl footage all day but not in lieu of the documentation of an orchestrated extermination.
If you get my drift.
When the dust settles on the election and hopefully kamala is in charge, I trust people will have the same energy for other, ongoing Nazi parallels. And that they don't confirm the suspicions some have that MAGA was merely an aesthetics disagreement.
Supercalifragilistic expialidocious. Because I might need to find this post again.
That's such a weak ass excuse anyway. It really doesn't hold up when you consider how many other speakers said truly disgusting, outright racist or just plain old offensive, racist and xenophobic comments.
Stephen Miller was almost foaming at the mouth with his 'America for Americans only' speech. Don Jr, Eric and Tucker all hinted at the great replacement theory. Rudi along with Hinchcliffe both made bad taste jokes about Palestinians and some other bloke I've never heard of before, a bald dude with a proper Brooklyn accent, Sid something I think, well he said some pretty offensive things too. Then you had Trump and his usual full on immigration, us v them, the enemy within, fear and hate filled divisive ranting that is riddled with lies and outright bullshit.
But yeah, put the blame on the comedian who wasn't vetted.
The worst part is, people actually buy this shit.
this is the first time after the kamala debate that i think she has any momentum. vibes-only, but the harris campaign felt like a ship slowly but determinedly heading into an iceberg, up until the insanity of that trump rally.
Yes. This.
Watch the media helping him to shift the narrative, if not tomorrow then on Wednesday.
if anyone is online enough to know who anna khachiyan is, this is *very* satisfying. even without that context this exchange is fun.
what that "comedian" said about palestinians was an off-colour joke, he then followed it up with an off-colour joke about jews. frankly that's about as good as you can get from most americans about israel/palestine.
what rudy said about palestinians was not a joke, it was a justification for ending that society, killing children. that comedian said other awful things, but on this, rudy was by far the worse one. it was nazi stuff. genuinely stands out. being scared of two year olds. read this recently and thought of it while hearing rudy: https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/joseph-goebbels-quot-the-jews-are-guilty-quot
No votes there, Harris might get some in FL or PA though
It's one of those curious things, that there are far more out in the open antisemites that support Israel than Jewish people who do. So the two jokes, seemingly going at both sides, were really pointing in the same direction.
Why is Baldwin basically running even with Harris in Wisconsin?
Now, i don't put too much faith into polling, but there is a a pattern that, senate democrats runs ahead of Biden, and then Harris, by at least a decent amount, Baldwin is running ahead just by a point, which is basically noise.
Given Wisconsin's rather "questionable" past, such as re-electing a traitor to the senate 2 years ago, doesn't make me feel any better either.
Now, i don't put too much faith into polling, but there is a a pattern that, senate democrats runs ahead of Biden, and then Harris, by at least a decent amount, Baldwin is running ahead just by a point, which is basically noise.
Given Wisconsin's rather "questionable" past, such as re-electing a traitor to the senate 2 years ago, doesn't make me feel any better either.
The heaviest swing area in Philadelphia to Trump in 2020 was, you guess it, a Puerto Rican community. There are a lot of tiny dots like that in metro/surburban area where just a few hundred votes matter.
Then you are very lucky in your social circle. The one in real life I knew is a girl from San Diego, liberal in every aspects but apathetic to politics because 'my vote doesn't matter', the rest were mostly males in their 20s/30s in the MOBA community I played with (DotA 2), a mixed bag when it comes to politics but heavy anti-establishment streak, some might wound up voting for Trump but the last 2 I talked to in 20 didn't vote.
In the same election the reelected their Dem Governor, a new Dem Lt Gov, reelected the Dem SoS, and narrowly lost the state treasurer (no incumbent). RoJo v Barnes was the perfect storm of a stupifying uninvestment by the National Dem, a racist as hell campaign by Johnson, and a bit of rural Wisconsin “he dont look like us” leaking out.
My prediction based on friends and family all over the state: Baldwin will win comfortably and Harris will win by a margin bigger than Bidens. At least I hope so. I am pretty sure I lost 3 years off my life waiting for the Brown county results from Green Bay to come in 4 years ago. For the OG’s of the 2020 election thread, you know.
Yeah,well quess what Harris kinda is too....
Probably both win there, but my point is, if Baldwin was as strong of an incumbent as people said, she wouldn't be basically depending on the percentage Harris gets, and that gives me pause.
Dems needs to get DC statehood done, for self-preservation at some point.
You were sound asleep
Possibly? That night is both vivid and a black hole in my mind.You were sound asleep
Edit: and I expect the same in 8 days.
What has changed, Fatigue of Trump and Trumpism?
Yeah, I am on board with your point that them running close seems weird to me as well. I think Harris’s races means less than Barnes simply because John made it the core of his campaign.
All that being said I am hopeful but not confident. Can’t feel comfortable until both Harris and Baldwin are sworn into office in January.
Ana is fired up. It seems this just keeps getting bigger and bigger. It's over half of the Tweets in my for you feed.
It’s just my opinion, but there is a growing sense of hope for WisDems after the State SC win and the resulting dismantling of the countries most gerrymandered state legislature maps. They might take back the Assembly this year and will for certain dismantle the GOP supermajorities in both chambers. I just think hope can drive more energy than fear and while 2020 was mainly about stopping Trump, this year (at least in WI) carries a hopeful tone as well.
Over/under on him swallowing his pride and apologize?
I see, thank you.
Keeping our hopes up is a good strategy. We fell in despair one time, and we saw what happened!
I ll take the under on that. He ain’t apologizing for that.
I can't wait to see the full show, I missed it as I was at work. The late night hosts are going to run wild with that MSG rally.It was shocking enough his campign tried to publicly distance itself they usually never apologize just say its a joke and move on. Difference here is the swift backlash even from GOP reps who have big Latino, or Puerto Rican constituents that they still need votes from.
Anyone expecting Donald himself to say hes sorry and his people messed up is insane.
At most I can see him saying "I love my Latinos...great people, great people" "They love me" Commie Kamala trying to turn them against me but it wont work. Thats about as close as you get. Blame others back over the comedian with the bus a few times and blame the Dems.
Puerto Rico too, maybe even American Samoa.
I don’t know who that person is or what show she is on, but that was great nonetheless.
After watching Trump over the past 9 years from the Access Hollywood tape to two impeachments, to January 6th, to him becoming a convicted felon this past summer, its hard to think of anything that would actually hurt him politically, particularly given that a massive swath of the voting public have already voted.
Not only buy that shit. They know what it is and it's exactly what they want
Saying Puerto Rico is a garbage island (not my word) is exactly the message they want to send to galvanise their base
At least half of American voted for them, they're not dumb or misguided, they know what they're voting for.
And this 45% will long exist after Trump. They wont vote for a sane nominee that doesn't do Trumpism
'Pfft, 20 millions in loss revenue? I wipe my arse everyday with that you plebs' - Jeff Bezos.
He'll make it back a 100 times over if Trump wins.