He got removed cause he was losing all 7-8 swing states by a large margin and polls were showing that states like Minnesota could be lost too. And in a presidential year election, votes do not get often split which means that Dems would have been fecked in Senate and House too. So the Dem establishment forced him to stand down.Again.. BUT BIDEN DIDN'T STAY ON.
He got removed because a higher standard applies to him.
Trump displaying equal or greater cognitive issues is not held to the same standard.
Your hypothetical is pointless because it's literally not what happened in reality.
So you're saying they're sacrificing their standards to win.Whose standards? He got removed, because it became clear to the Democrats that he would lose. The opposite is true for Trump - if the Republicans removed him, they would definitely lose.
It took one of the most catastrophic debate performances in modern U.S. political history for people to admit this. Before that there was general denial about it even though the basic fact of his advanced age never changed.Almost everyone on here was saying it couldn't go on like that and wanted him to step down, so how does that ring hollow?
You have bee duped by Republican/Far Right talking points. There is absolutely nothing coherent and energetic about Trump - and although Biden is old as feck and stiff, he most certainly is not "unwell".
You've been watching edited videos on social media most likely, just so you know.
One of the most useless things Biden and the dems have allowed to happen is perpetuate this myth that he’s not compos mentis. He should have lent into the whole Grandpa Joe thing and run with that. But no, let’s just ignore the biggest elephant in the room until it’s too late. Now everyone thinks he’s got dementia, brilliant.
81-year-old Biden being decrepit was a right-wing conspiracy!The hyperbole around Biden's aging like he is propped up and a barely conscious corpse to prop up trump is ridiculous.
But he did get removed.He got removed cause he was losing all 7-8 swing states by a large margin and polls were showing that states like Minnesota could be lost too. And in a presidential year election, votes do not get often split which means that Dems would have been fecked in Senate and House too. So the Dem establishment forced him to stand down.
It had nothing to do with standards applying to him, standards really didn't applied to him, and if they were, VP Harris would have used Amendment 25
The clue is in his name!By American standards, Carolina Red is basically a communist.
He got removed cause he was going for a historical defeat, nothing having to do with standards. And he was losing that big only when it became clear even to the biggest partisans that he is demented, and not only at some early stage. Something that people were denying even one day before the debate, despite being crystal clear.But he did get removed.
Why was he losing in all those states?
Why is Kamala competitive in them?
I mean, come on folks.
It's really not about standards, but about winning. For whatever reason, Trump can seemingly win while being a crazy, bigoted, old fool, but Biden clearly couldn't win being senile. It has more to do with the electorate than standards of each of the parties. If Biden was somehow polling at 60% nationally even after his debate performance, do you think he would have been removed from the ticket? Of course he wouldn't have been.So you're saying they're sacrificing their standards to win.
Yes.
And why was he going for a historical defeat?He got removed cause he was going for a historical defeat, nothing having to do with standards. And he was losing that big only when it became clear even to the biggest partisans that he is demented, and not only at some early stage.
If there was any standard, he wouldn't be a president right now.
But he wasn't, because of his senility, so they removed him.It's really not about standards, but about winning. For whatever reason, Trump can seemingly win while being a crazy, bigoted, old fool, but Biden clearly couldn't win being senile. It has more to do with the electorate than standards of each of the parties. If Biden was somehow polling at 60% nationally even after his debate performance, do you think he would have been removed from the ticket? Of course he wouldn't have been.
No, I don't think Trump has done anything that makes him seem as old and feeble, as what Biden did during the debate. Crazy, weird, and bigoted though? Of course.Swaying to music on stage for 30 minutes when he was meant to be doing a Q&A isn't as bad?
He has also made numerous gaffs with mixing up people and places that people eviscerated Biden for.
Cause the media and the party cannot hide anymore that he is completely demented. He cannot even read from a teleprompter these days anymore. Hard to find independents who would vote for him and you cannot win without them.And why was he going for a historical defeat?
I'm not sure we even disagree. Biden was removed because he couldn't win after the debate performance. Not because the Democrats have some kind of internal standard against running senile candidates.But he wasn't, because of his senility, so they removed him.
The example is moot.
Bad NYT poll for Harris this morning, a national vote tie surely means a Trump win? The only positive is that Harris is still looking strong in the rust belt for now. A reverse 2016 situation would be funny but unlikely.
Are they only dropping a national poll? I was hoping we would be getting some battleground state polls from NYT by now. Personally I'm not reading too much into the national polls at this point.Bad NYT poll for Harris this morning, a national vote tie surely means a Trump win? The only positive is that Harris is still looking strong in the rust belt for now. A reverse 2016 situation would be funny but unlikely.
It's as blatant a hedge as I've ever seen, and that's taking into account that their national number has kinda been in its own universe this cycle. Tied in RVs and Trump up 1 in LV, but at the same time there are 15% undecideds and Harris leads them by 10 pts, so they are covered either way betwwen that and the MoE.Bad NYT poll for Harris this morning, a national vote tie surely means a Trump win? The only positive is that Harris is still looking strong in the rust belt for now. A reverse 2016 situation would be funny but unlikely.
Wasn’t he removed because of a little bit from column A and a little bit from column BHe got removed cause he was going for a historical defeat, nothing having to do with standards. And he was losing that big only when it became clear even to the biggest partisans that he is demented, and not only at some early stage. Something that people were denying even one day before the debate, despite being crystal clear.
If there was any standard, he wouldn't be a president right now.
It also seems to be forgotten that back when the Access Hollywood tape scandal broke out, a lot of Republicans did break with Trump because they expected him to lose and drag the whole party down. However, it was not possible to remove him from the ballot, and he refused to drop out, so they played their shitty cards as best they could. And they won.Whose standards? He got removed, because it became clear to the Democrats that he would lose. The opposite is true for Trump - if the Republicans removed him, they would definitely lose.
None of the real power players in the Republican party did, as far as I remember (Romney, Cocaine Mitch, Paul Ryan, Priebus, etc.). It was all weak condemnation without retracting endorsements. But it was also much closer to the election day, so it was pretty much a guaranteed loss if he withdrew, whereas the Democrats had something to salvage in the Biden situation.It also seems to be forgotten that back when the Access Hollywood tape scandal broke out, a lot of Republicans did break with Trump because they expected him to lose and drag the whole party down. However, it was not possible to remove him from the ballot, and he refused to drop out, so they played their shitty cards as best they could. And they won.
Finally some common sense.
I'd argue that most of them can see this, the scary part is that they don't careIt's scary that MAGA American's can't see this.
Finally I what sense? These sorts of statements have been released for months.
They also dumb? It‘s the blind leading the blind.It's scary that MAGA American's can't see this.
Just woke up to read that 47% of young Norwegian men (aged 18 to 29) would vote for Trump. For the country as a whole the number is a measly 17% at least, but damn these are worrying numbers. Isn't this how Nazi Germany started?
Primarily because of non-partisan voters.And why was he going for a historical defeat?
It was only a few days ago that Arab Americans were polling in favour of Trump though.
81-year-old Biden being decrepit was a right-wing conspiracy!
https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-w...nt-al-roker-late-show-joe-biden-acuity-healthStephen Colbert mocks Biden's mental fitness after gaffe during Easter egg hunt
That’s right, Jack! I got big Easter news: Joe Biden can lay eggs," Colbert joked while wearing a pair of aviator sunglasses, mimicking the president. "Easy as pie. No, I push ’em right out the cloaca. Serve ’em up scrambled, or sit on ’em for a while, raise a beautiful flock of little baby Joes, ‘peep, peep, peep.'"Point is, I am mentally fit to once again run for president of the United States," Colbert adds, still acting as if he was Biden while his audience laughs. "What’s goin’ on? Where’s Jill? Marco! Jill-o!"
Just because it’s been happening for a decade doesn’t make it right. People should stop accepting it and be pointing it out every day.
Your particular brand of Fischer Price devils advocacy, where you pretend you are voting Harris, but then spend all day, every day criticising her and zero time every day criticising Trump, is a large reason the double standards persist.
It also seems to be forgotten that back when the Access Hollywood tape scandal broke out, a lot of Republicans did break with Trump because they expected him to lose and drag the whole party down. However, it was not possible to remove him from the ballot, and he refused to drop out, so they played their shitty cards as best they could. And they won.
Which raises an interesting question: if Biden had not dropped out, and somehow won the election, would this reflect badly on dems? Would they not be allowed to celebrate since they set aside their standards to win? Personally I think they should be allowed to celebrate regardless.
Most of the big corporations only pay around 16-17% anyway due to all the loopholes
I'm skeptical about the SALT thing TBH, Trump never admits he does anything wrong and this would be exactly that, it definitely was a ploy to punish blue states/cities
Regarding tariffs, they did try and explain them originally that way, obviously that didn't work, what they really need is a top business CEO that people know and trust and get them to give the message, whether one exists is a different matter though!
I don't think anyone is disputing that Joe Biden was removed.You can speculate as to the reasons why Biden got removed, but he did actually get removed and Trump didn't. This is the actual reality and everything else is just your opinion.
Quite a few of the people who signed that letter are not Arab American so it's not super inconsistent.It was only a few days ago that Arab Americans were polling in favour of Trump though.
I think the idea of a double standard for Trump is overstated. The majority of this double standard is partisanship, and if we are honest, we would admit that we all engage in it. Biden was incapable of serving another term as president, and yet if he'd stayed on he would have gotten at least 40% of the vote. Candidate quality is important and it can win or lose elections, but it doesn't swing the entire vote.
The subheading of that 'Harris/Trump double standard' article is "one candidate can rant about gibberish while the other has to be perfect." Does it have to be perfect? Perfect for what? Harris is currently running an extremely imperfect campaign, under less-than-ideal circumstances, and she is tied. If she was running in better circumstances or had a better campaign she might be winning more comfortably. No perfection needed.
It comes across as a refusal to accept that 'anyone but Trump' isn't going to be a landslide win by default.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/25/us/politics/poll-harris-trump-times-siena.htmlKamala Harris and Donald J. Trump are locked in a dead heat for the popular vote, 48 percent to 48 percent, the final national poll by The New York Times and Siena College has found, as Ms. Harris struggles for an edge over Mr. Trump with an electorate that seems impossibly and immovably divided.
An actual tie means a Trump win, but he isn't winning the popular vote though.
Bad NYT poll for Harris this morning, a national vote tie surely means a Trump win? The only positive is that Harris is still looking strong in the rust belt for now. A reverse 2016 situation would be funny but unlikely.
