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Got the Billie Eilish vote now too.
Nice soundbite: "vote as if your life depends on it because it does". Harris could use that.
Got the Billie Eilish vote now too.
A spectre is haunting the United States
Watching Harris at NABJ and she’s flailing badly on Gaza, in a friendly setting. Clips from this won’t win her any votes with the anti war crowd. The journalists are pushing her point blank on her policy difference, if any, with Biden, and she’s just repeating ‘we must get the deal done’ - which isn’t happening.
They will spam it regardless, ‘Harris doesn’t defend Israel’, ‘Harris has no plan for Gaza’, etcShe's saying all the right things to not lose any votes, especially among centrist independents or allow MAGA influencers to spam up social media with anything controversial.
They will spam it regardless, ‘Harris doesn’t defend Israel’, ‘Harris has no plan for Gaza’, etc
Overall I don’t think she’s doing too badly, but she’s not an effective communicator, a lot of unnecessary waffling on gimmes where she could’ve answered with clear, concise talking points that transfer well to social media shorts/clips. Her economic answer, for instance, is just a lot of repeating ‘opportunity economy’, in between the discussion about the minutiae, while a more savvy speaker can forcefully make the case about quality of life investment that brings better economic outcomes than just putting numbers for numbers sake (she did allude to it when talking about the unemployment number, but in a very convoluted way).
Even Obama has a penchant for sophistry in interviews/press conferences.That's true about her communications skills. She's certainly no Obama to say the least, but she does seem to have matured quite a bit from the 2019/20 run.
Chasiv yar, Ukraine. Today.
Huge nostalgia for Soviet Union coupled with ultranationalism and a hard on for Russian empire.Two soldiers with a flag means Russia is communist? Ultra-nationalist Christian conservatism doesn't scream "socialism" to me.
Huge nostalgia for Soviet Union coupled with ultranationalism and a hard on for Russian empire.
There is no policy difference. She also pro-genocide, what is she supposed to say?Watching Harris at NABJ and she’s flailing badly on Gaza, in a friendly setting. Clips from this won’t win her any votes with the anti war crowd. The journalists are pushing her point blank on her policy difference, if any, with Biden, and she’s just repeating ‘we must get the deal done’ - which isn’t happening.
Same people he appealed to in 2016 only they've become a cult since then and never question dear leader, whereas in 2016 they still had a little bit of autonomy and thought they were just sticking it to the establishment.Who does Trump even appeal to at this point?
In 2016 he positioned himself - accurately or not - as the anti-establishment, anti-war, isolationist candidate. He attracted younger eyes by firing off a few zingers in historically stuffy debates. His campaign had a string of memorable slogans: make American great again, drain the swamp, lock her up etc.
Nowadays he very much seems to be part of the Republican establishment. His anti-war, isolationist stance is massively toned down (although apparently still too much for genuinely evil neocons like Dan Crenshaw, John Bolton et al). He's nearly 80 and has clearly lost a step mentally. He was even pretty boring during both debates this cycle. The campaign seems non-existent - the 'Comrade Kamala' slogan just doesn't land at all, sounds very silly, I don't think even he believes it.
Come to think of it, both sides caricatures of each other - 'Comrade Kamala, furthest left candidate ever' v 'Death of Democracy, existential threat' - are much cooler than either of the candidates could ever hope to be. In reality it's just establishment Neolib vs establishment dull old Republican.
Who does Trump even appeal to at this point?
Generally people over 60, rural populace and most blue collar workers support Trump. Add in the usual Christian conservatives/abortion/LGBTQ and NRA/gun people.
But he does has key issues trending in his favor this time around...inflation and immigration.
- Inflation as at 2022 was probably the highest in past 10 years. The cost of essential foods (milk etc) and gas have hit most people hard and though it's trending down now, it still higher than it was under Trump. Easy to blame it all on Biden.
- Illegal Immigration and perceived crimes and job loss resulting from it have been blamed on Dems too. This has been the case back in 2016/2020 and nothing has changed.
Though I don't understand why, but there has been a swing in black voters towards Trump from about 12% - 17%. With razor thin election margins, not sure how much this will weigh.
The key is what you said. Easy to pin it to Biden/Harris. Because it is. General voter has short memory and little economic critical thinking and they will blame the incumbent rightly or not
His issue is that his cult are not enough so he has to go with vote supression. Because this elections, any true independent would not vote for this trainwreck. At most not vote for Harris, that is why vote supression will be key
Vote supression, in what way, just disencouraging people from voting in general, or by actual feckery like they do in some states, like Texas?
The latter is a bit more difficult for them to do this time around, considering dems have a good amount of control is some of the crucial swing states, after 2020 and 2022 elections.
Do they? A number of these swing states have GOP legislaturesVote supression, in what way, just disencouraging people from voting in general, or by actual feckery like they do in some states, like Texas?
The latter is a bit more difficult for them to do this time around, considering dems have a good amount of control is some of the crucial swing states, after 2020 and 2022 elections.
Do they? A number of these swing states have GOP legislatures
PA- splitDo they? A number of these swing states have GOP legislatures
GA may have certified it last time but they've introduced some pretty insidous election laws since aimed at suppressing voters that generally vote Democratic, GOP states have also put in place some very iffy election officals that have quite a big say in what's counted and what's not, it's not an overblown problemThis is largely an overblown problem, i think, as most states, even some traditionally republican ones like Georgia, certified their elections, even if results wasn't what they wanted.
But, dems did make some noticable improvements in swing states in the midterms, mainly Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Arizona.
Only idiots believe this. Inflation doesn't suddenly comes out of nowhere.Inflation as at 2022 was probably the highest in past 10 years. The cost of essential foods (milk etc) and gas have hit most people hard and though it's trending down now, it still higher than it was under Trump. Easy to blame it all on Biden.
Only idiots believe this. Inflation doesn't suddenly comes out of nowhere.
His failed COVID response and stupid fiscal policies (free money for all while production and supply chains were interrupted) during the pandemic caused the inflation.
I just don't believe they can shape ads and messaging to get this across to the bit of the electorate that needs the info. Which is an indictment of the electorate.Only idiots believe this. Inflation doesn't suddenly comes out of nowhere.
His failed COVID response and stupid fiscal policies (free money for all while production and supply chains were interrupted) during the pandemic caused the inflation.
I just don't believe they can shape ads and messaging to get this across to the bit of the electorate that needs the info. Which is an indictment of the electorate.
It's just a blessing the imbecile is going on about eating dogs and cats rather than hammer Dems on economy.
It's the reason I think generally incumbents are going to be less and less successful in national elections. The media blame them for the current ills, never providing context or explanations, and people do the same.This.
Facts are gas prices and food prices were low under Trump and high under Biden. Housing has pretty much become unaffordable most of first time home buyers now with no end in sight..... And here you are saying giving free money was a mistake.
It just doesn't land well irrespective of the underlying causes or actual truth. These are custom for advantage when running a campaign for Trump.
It's just a blessing the imbecile is going on about eating dogs and cats rather than hammer Dems on economy.
Absolutely. I don't even think the electorate can generally grasp that the effects of policies enacted by one president are often not seen until the next president in in power. It's more common to just draw a straight line between current gas prices and who the sitting POTUS is. Trying to educate the electorate would be a fools errand.I just don't believe they can shape ads and messaging to get this across to the bit of the electorate that needs the info. Which is an indictment of the electorate.
that woman has plans than haven't worked and won't work'
1. Getting her policies and agenda visible (somehow, maybe she needs to say she'll bite the head off a bat or something)
re: the media, depends of which channel you are watching, there are plenty that explain what the issues are and just as many who don'tIt's the reason I think generally incumbents are going to be less and less successful in national elections. The media blame them for the current ills, never providing context or explanations, and people do the same.
That said, with gas prices actually falling right now, there might be a route to leverage that. Unemployment is the lowest it's ever been, gas prices back to 20XX levels, inflation down for 3 months in a row - we were left in a disaster by Trump, but we're finally coming out of it. Or something like that.