You're in the election thread. These issues are being discussed in the context of the election.
Of course what the US is doing is shameful and there should be a reckoning. It should not, however, be timed so as to hand the country back over to Trump. Do it on November 6th.
Jill Stein trying to siphon off votes in Michigan is beyond stupid. If Trump gets re-elected it will harm Palestinians more in the long run.
Disgraceful.
Yes the issues are. Nobody is advocating voting for Trump though?
What bothers me in this particular instance ( I can't speak for others) is what prompted me to reply to Raoul this time.
I'm not even one of the posters on this thread constantly going on about the conflict. But it bothers me when some posters bring it down to Meh, Biden and the dems literally have no choice.
That is what I'm challenging. The gaslighting that this is literally the only possible response from American politics, even when people give actual historical occasions of when that wasn't the case.
Say that the American politics is, for various reasons, generally pro Israel.
Say that the USA were always going to support Israel, especially in the initial aftermath of Hamas' attack.
Say that the majority of Americans, regardless of the number of deaths, will always prioritise domestic issues over foreign policy ones. Even if that is a potential American supported genocide.
Say that some Americans see this as a genuine existential fight for democracy.
Say that almost anyone would get a vote over Trump.
All are true to some extent and even fair.
But please don't say that this response,
even now, is the only way. It just objectively isn't and American history points to that fact.