2016 US Presidential Elections | Trump Wins

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If Hillary does win, I doubt it will be the death of the Republican Party. In mid-terms of 2018 the party not holding the White House will gain traction and seats in the House and Senate. It always does, and based on her past I don't see her unifying the country any. From here on the ground, this is far from a sure thing for either one of them. A decent candidate from either side would have put this away a month ago.

Just look at their 2006 and 2008 results, leading to the death of the Bush strain of the party, the far-right revolt....they emerged stronger from it in 2010! A little economic turbulence is all it takes.
 
Silver has had a bad year with his sports predictions and him being terribly wrong about Trump in the primary.

Wonder what will happen if he's perceived to be wrong tomorrow as well, considering he's the only one that gives Trump a decent chance. His whole reputation was built on being very accurate in 08 and 12. A string of bad predictions could be bad for clicks to his website.

I think the problem for Silver is that he's tried to dabble into punditry and it hasn't gone well.
 
So much for the hidden Drumpf vote. Its apparently Hillary leaning hispanics who have been hidden in the polls this cycle.



 
God, I hate American propaganda.

It's a very well made video but filled with alot of hyperbolic nonsense. She talks passionately about protecting children and those vulnerable in society, yet unsurprisingly no mention of how she defended a child rapist in the 70s.

Granted, she looks like a saint and progressive champion next to her opponent, but she's still pretty much the worst the Democrats have to offer.
 
Just look at their 2006 and 2008 results, leading to the death of the Bush strain of the party, the far-right revolt....they emerged stronger from it in 2010! A little economic turbulence is all it takes.

Yes sir. In fact, one could argue it might hurt the Party more long term if he is elected and turns out to be the catastrophic fool many are claiming. Honestly I don't believe the hysterics from either side, I don't like either one of them to be fair, but I really don't see a whole lot changing regardless of who wins. Whether that is good or bad, I suppose is debatable. Now...I think I'll slink back to the football forums and we'll see what unfolds over the next 36 hours. Should be interesting if nothing else. :cool:
 
It's a very well made video but filled with alot of hyperbolic nonsense. She talks passionately about protecting children and those vulnerable in society, yet unsurprisingly no mention of how she defended a child rapist in the 70s.

Granted, she looks like a saint and progressive champion next to her opponent, but she's still pretty much the worst the Democrats have to offer.

I honestly am embarrassed as an American, that out of over 300million people, it somehow came down to these two. I really don't think either would be in my top 290 million.
 
Looking forward to Trump and the Republicans taking back control (eventually) of their country.

May it be So!
 
It's a very well made video but filled with alot of hyperbolic nonsense. She talks passionately about protecting children and those vulnerable in society, yet unsurprisingly no mention of how she defended a child rapist in the 70s.

Granted, she looks like a saint and progressive champion next to her opponent, but she's still pretty much the worst the Democrats have to offer.
She was a defence attorney, what was she supposed to do? And why would she mention it in a campaign ad?
 
She was a defence attorney, what was she supposed to do? And why would she mention it in a campaign ad?
Yeah obviously she wouldn't mention it, it was tongue in cheek.

My point is she's nothing like the benevolent progressive champion that's she's shown to be in that video. You could make a contrasting video twice as long about her anti-progressive stances.
 
It's a very well made video but filled with alot of hyperbolic nonsense. She talks passionately about protecting children and those vulnerable in society, yet unsurprisingly no mention of how she defended a child rapist in the 70s.

Granted, she looks like a saint and progressive champion next to her opponent, but she's still pretty much the worst the Democrats have to offer.

She was a court-appointed defence lawyer ... you know, on the grounds that the accused has a right to fair trial and legal counsel.
 
Fox News puts Clinton up by 4%

Clinton has doubled her advantage over Trump in Fox News' newest opinion poll. On Friday, Clinton led by only 2%.
 
She was a court-appointed defence lawyer ... you know, on the grounds that the accused has a right to fair trial and legal counsel.
That helped a child rapist go free. I'm not blaming her for doing her professional duty, it's just that it paints a very different picture to the hero of the vulnerable she portrays herself to be, or so least her supporters claim her to be.
 
It's a very well made video but filled with alot of hyperbolic nonsense. She talks passionately about protecting children and those vulnerable in society, yet unsurprisingly no mention of how she defended a child rapist in the 70s.

Granted, she looks like a saint and progressive champion next to her opponent, but she's still pretty much the worst the Democrats have to offer.

Of all the arguments that have been put out against Clinton in this election, that's easily one of the most irrational.
 
Looking forward to Trump and the Republicans taking back control (eventually) of their country.

May it be So!

Erm, no.



:lol:

BTW, That's Faux's last poll for this campaign they are reporting Clinton beating Drumpf in all their polls and questions, favourability, temperament, trustworthiness. And they have her ahead by 2 points in Florida too.
 
:lol: :lol:

I would also have some words to say about him but @Grinner has already made it perfectly clear to me that insulting in the generals is not allowed (even though everyone else seems to do it, so i wonder if they all got PM'ed....)


Are you crying about something?

You just worry about your own posts and nobody else's.
 
She was a defence attorney, what was she supposed to do? And why would she mention it in a campaign ad?

Really not sure why anyone would even think to make an issue of this, unless they shared the same weird logic as a Trump supporter.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-stands-by-her-defense-of-1975-rape-suspect/

Every accused person deserves to have legal representation, and that legal defense should do it's best to protect their rights to a fair trial, including questioning the claims of the accuser(s). Seems she claims she did try to get excused but the court denied this request. Much ado about nothing.
 
Who would you have preferred ?

Well 290 million is a long list. Of those running, I voted for Marco Rubio. Many other people I actually admire I think would make a good President, but don't want the job obviously. Condoleeza Rice for one. On the Dem side I would have preferred Joe Biden over HRC. At this point, that's all moot.
 
Erm, no.



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BTW, That's Faux's last poll for this campaign they are reporting Clinton beating Drumpf in all their polls and questions, favourability, temperament, trustworthiness. And they have her ahead by 2 points in Florida too.



Don't read too much into the polls.
Make the US great again - vote Trump!
 
What argument are you referring to?

That defending a child rapist in some way reflects badly on a defence attorney, or makes her some sort of hypocrite when she talks about protecting the vulnerable.
 
Really not sure why anyone would even think to make an issue of this, unless they shared the same weird logic as a Trump supporter.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-stands-by-her-defense-of-1975-rape-suspect/

Every accused person deserves to have legal representation, and that legal defense should do it's best to protect their rights to a fair trial, including questioning the claims of the accuser(s). Seems she claims she did try to get excused but the court denied this request. Much ado about nothing.
Precisely.
 
Really not sure why anyone would even think to make an issue of this, unless they shared the same weird logic as a Trump supporter.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-stands-by-her-defense-of-1975-rape-suspect/

Every accused person deserves to have legal representation, and that legal defense should do it's best to protect their rights to a fair trial, including questioning the claims of the accuser(s). Seems she claims she did try to get excused but the court denied this request. Much ado about nothing.

Any fair minded person realizes she was doing her job there. It's the later recordings of her chuckling about it and in American terminology 'spiking the football' a bit too gleefully that bothered many. Context? Perhaps, but still disturbing. There is much about the Clintons not to like. Can she do the job? If she's elected, yes, I think she probably can to be fair.
 
It's a very well made video but filled with alot of hyperbolic nonsense. She talks passionately about protecting children and those vulnerable in society, yet unsurprisingly no mention of how she defended a child rapist in the 70s.

Granted, she looks like a saint and progressive champion next to her opponent, but she's still pretty much the worst the Democrats have to offer.

Jesus Christ, how bitter are you? She was the appointed defence attorney, she didn't pick that case to make a name for herself. Whatever you say about her emails and trust worthiness, this woman has a track record of social service for over 30 years. It's absolute madness to question on her on this. She's running on a ticket that promises status quo and consolidation of Obama years.

Are you expecting a Che in the jungles to contest the US elections and win? The best thing that US can do right now is a centrist candidate.
 
That helped a child rapist go free. I'm not blaming her for doing her professional duty, it's just that it paints a very different picture to the hero of the vulnerable she portrays herself to be, or so least her supporters claim her to be.

This is like saying you can't use any form of combustion engine in this world today if you are for climate change as it pollutes the environment. You think it is logical, but it's an absolute dog turd of an argument.
 
That defending a child rapist in some way reflects badly on a defence attorney, or makes her some sort of hypocrite when she talks about protecting the vulnerable.
I didn't call her a hypocrite, nor do I blame her. I just find it laughable how that video makes her out to be this Mother Theresa character in US politics.

Putting my tongue in cheek example aside, there are a million and one other examples that put her firmly on the opposite end of genuine progressives. Namely her affinity to wall street and how she loves a good war or two and let's not forget her historical opposition to gay marriage, the virtue of a true progressive. Again, unsurprising those weren't included in her inspirational highlight reel.
 
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