2016 US Presidential Elections | Trump Wins
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It's not likely he'll win, but to dismiss his chances altogether would be foolish. He's able to galvanise his supporter base alot more than Hillary can, and let's be honest, many progressives are voting for her reluctantly, if at all. This sort of apathy and complaceny is always dangerous, especially if Brexit is anything to go by.
Think I saw that tweet yesterday. Hoping all this data turns out to be true in the end in a landslide for HRC.
Bit skeptical with the last line.
Networks don't want anything but the illusion of a close race. I'm ignoring all of this polling shite.
You presume that the debates would've been about policy. For all we know Trump would've branded Bernie a KGB operative who honeymooned in Moscow.
No words.
I'm not dismissing his chances altogether, but the statement that you made exaggerated his chances. The dems could only be in danger if his chances to win were likely. If it's not likely that he will win then the dems are not in danger, bar a random surprise that nobody could have predicted coming. The comparisons to Brexit have been debunked over and over, it's not the same.
And for those who said Clinton's run a substance-free campaign
Maybe 'don't let him win' is just about the only thing that can cut through the bullshit?
Maybe 'don't let him win' is just about the only thing that can cut through the bullshit?
A random video I stumbled upon:
Looks good for her...realistically he's got to win those three light blue ones, and even though he's still got a decent chance in them all individually it'd be a surprise at this point if they all go his way.
The Democratic convention itself wasn't much better. They set the tone, aided/forced by Trump, and the media, again, aided/forced by Trump, has followed.
I want Ohio! Let him lose in a bigger landslide than the Mittens, then we dig up that 'choked like a dog' tweet and throw it at him.
Couldn't get through more than a minute or so of that.
So many people saying they like his honesty. These people are literally too stupid to insult.
And you voted for Sanders? Feck!
Are they supposed to come across as empowered and enlightened in their support of Trump? They all sound as thick as pig shit.
well he is kind of honest about his dishonesty.
That is tasty
I expressed plenty of misgivings about it at the time, especially on day 4 when it's American exceptionalism porn, but it's clear the networks - at the very least - have no interest in digging into issues, which influenced the Dems' strategy.
There were plenty of examples even back in the primaries. Look at the way Jeb! was ridiculed, or Sanders's biggest line of traction (paid speeches). The Democratic primaries were more issue- driven, but as it unfolded it became more and more about personality and trustworthiness (which isn't to say there were no issue driven motives to arrive at that debate about honesty).
The Conventions are noting but large campaign commercials with free airtime provided by all the networks. Expecting anything else is silly
Did Trump out perform the polls in the primaries ?
Nope. Underperformed if anything.
His largest base of support, non-college white men, while a formidable voting bloc as a whole, isn't exactly known for their participation rate.
Cheers. That's a relief.
This makes no sense. They set the tone because Donald made them. So...Donald set the tone. The republicans set their stall out in the train wreck they called a primary. Compare that to the democratic primary.
This isn't entirely directed at you but...This "they're as bad as each other" nonsense has to stop. A kid getting C-s isn't the same as a kid failing right across the board. It's just an excuse for people so they don't have to learn more, or educate themselves about politics.
So would losing NC sink him regardless of the other swings, same as Florida? I can't run the numbers just yet...
Lol.
Donald Trump isn't pulling the DNC's strings. As @InfiniteBoredom pointed out, they probably focus-grouped this and found that Clinton v Trump is better if they focus on his personality rather than her policies.
Contrast the speeches by Bernie and maybe Warren on one side and everyone else, but especially the much-praised stuff from Bill Clinton and Michelle Obama on the other. There is a strong case to be made against Trump's promised economic policies. But Hillary does better when focusing on his persona.
Losing NC or FL and it is definitely over. He would have to run the table in places like MI, MN, CO, and VA to compensate - all states where he is behind significantly at the moment.
Gee, wonder if this has anything to do with A) a hurricane and B) it taking a judge to demand they let black people vote
Of course she does-that is like shooting fish in a barrel!
North Carolina, Florida and Nevada are still blue in their latest forecasting. And Hillary can lose all three of them (quite unlikely IMO) and still win the election as long as she wins New Hampshire (+2.9 at the moment).
That is 1 off mine (323 HRC). I suspect the Maine district is the single difference.
They are crunching in new polls, that were not available when I made that post.
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